Florida sets new daily case record - 15,300

[Jeffreauxdawg]

All this is true. The virus is spread almost exclusively indoors. Specifically, as you said, in crowded bars, family gatherings, etc.

People who say “well so much for the heat killing the virus” aren’t seeing the forest through the trees. The hot weather may not obliterated the virus, but it does not spread very well outside according to every contact trace data available.

Our issue right now is people are still having big indoor gatherings. Adults (NOT children) are bringing it to parties/events and spreading it amongst themselves.

This is why sending kids back to school is a no brainer yes. And college kids playing football in limited capacity outdoor venues would not be a major negative contributor to the spread- if common sense can ever prevail. I’d still think fans should wear masks entering the stadium and whenever they go to the concourse though.

I agree mostly... Still interested to see if when the kids go back to school if they become "silent carriers" and bring it home and get mom and dad sick. Texas is starting to release more daycare specific testing info and there have been 1800 cases in daycares as of July 8th. That's up 759% since June 15th. 1200 staff and 600 children have tested positive. So kids are obviously much more resistant so far, but daycare enrollment is still way down.

I am of the belief that any family that can reasonably keep there kids at home and learn online should. This gives the ones that need to be in classrooms for all of the reasons we all know, a much better chance of successfully finishing the semester. If 10 kids are in a class compared to 20, it's going to significantly lower the chance of an outbreak that shuts it down in my opinion.

But to your broader statement, from everything I have read, I would be glad to take the whole family to a ballgame this summer. But we are getting food to go and playing outside with friends. Everyone I know that has gotten sick shared indoor air with someone who was sick. I have not heard of anyone getting Covid at youth sports, beaches, parks, or anything like it. We knew of a pool party that had a bunch of people get sick, but they all went inside for cake and presents.

I wish common sense and reason would take over. We could make 2020 the year of outdoor entertainment and education. Full tilt anything outside...

 

[SteelCurtain74]

Was talking to a friend who said a couple he knows made an appointment to get tested and when they went there the lines were so long they decided not to fool with it then. Sometime later they received confirmation that they both tested positive. They didn’t even get tested!! My wife has heard similar stories from others.

Apparently Ben McDonald has seen the same issue

https://mobile.twitter.com/realbenmcdonald/status/1282428576286072833?s=12

 

[mstateglfr]

All this is true. The virus is spread almost exclusively indoors. Specifically, as you said, in crowded bars, family gatherings, etc.

People who say “well so much for the heat killing the virus” aren’t seeing the forest through the trees. The hot weather may not obliterated the virus, but it does not spread very well outside according to every contact trace data available.

Our issue right now is people are still having big indoor gatherings. Adults (NOT children) are bringing it to parties/events and spreading it amongst themselves.

This is why sending kids back to school is a no brainer yes. And college kids playing football in limited capacity outdoor venues would not be a major negative contributor to the spread- if common sense can ever prevail. I’d still think fans should wear masks entering the stadium and whenever they go to the concourse though.

So it spreads indoors, but its a good idea for kids to be indoors for 7 hours a day in school?

I mean, kids can get it and pass it to others. I know that isn't popular opinion for one side, but its reality.

 

[msstate7]

So it spreads indoors, but its a good idea for kids to be indoors for 7 hours a day in school?

I mean, kids can get it and pass it to others. I know that isn't popular opinion for one side, but its reality.

Probably not good for kids to have no school either though. I'm sure there's more than a few parents that will have issues paying for daycare.

 

[mstateglfr]

Probably not good for kids to have no school either though. I'm sure there's more than a few parents that will have issues paying for daycare.

Oh itd be a shitshow if theybwweent in school. It will be a shitshow, regardless of how the school process goes for each district and state.

But that's beside the point I was asking about. I dont follow superhero's logic that it spreads jnside and of course kids should all be in cool central circulated schools for 7 hours each day.
Seems odd to say they should of course be there.

 

[JenBielema]

It’s all ******** boys.

Who really believes the numbers ??

 

[hailstate19]

It’s all ******** boys.

Who really believes the numbers ??

I don’t have a clue what to believe. I find it hard to believe these states with all these protest are doing so well, and the republican states are doing horrible.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

So it spreads indoors, but its a good idea for kids to be indoors for 7 hours a day in school?

I mean, kids can get it and pass it to others. I know that isn't popular opinion for one side, but its reality.

Adults spread the virus indoors. Adults. I see you conveniently left out the part where I said adults (NOT children). All trace contact data available says, overwhelmingly, adults spread the virus far more than kids. I’m sure kids would pass it around a little at school, but there is no data from any other country that supports schools being super-spreading hot spots.

Kids missing school is immeasurably more detrimental to their health and our country’s overall health than them potentially being exposed to COVID. It’s not even close. Ask any pediatrician.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...atricians-call-for-in-person-school-this-fall

BTW- kids can be exposed to COVID sitting at home too. Closing schools does not prevent anyone from getting the virus. ****, I think it has killed fewer than 100 people under 15 in the entire country- and practically all of those had serious, chronic preexisting conditions.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Protests took place outdoors

And many were masked up. Bars and restaurants (and other indoors places people congregate) have shown greater hotspot potential.

 

[mstateglfr]

Adults spread the virus indoors. Adults. I see you conveniently left out the part where I said adults (NOT children). All trace contact data available says, overwhelmingly, adults spread the virus far more than kids. I’m sure kids would pass it around a little at school, but there is no data from any other country that supports schools being super-spreading hot spots.

Kids missing school is immeasurably more detrimental to their health and our country’s overall health than them potentially being exposed to COVID. It’s not even close. Ask any pediatrician.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...atricians-call-for-in-person-school-this-fall

BTW- kids can be exposed to COVID sitting at home too. Closing schools does not prevent anyone from getting the virus. ****, I think it has killed fewer than 100 people under 15 in the entire country- and practically all of those had serious, chronic preexisting conditions.

Ok, first off, I am not suggesting there be no school. Secondly, im not suggesting there be no in person school. Third, I didnt conveniently leave anything out or ignore anything in my prior comment.
Let's get that out of the way.

Next, and this is super important so pay attention, kids can aspread covid19. I know, its a surprise, but its real.
The big study with thousands of kids is in progress, so anything saying otherwise is based on a mix of small sample sizes and guesstimates.

I found it funny that you agree cool indoor locations is how it spreads and then said obviously kids should be in cool indoor buildings.
This doesnt even address all the adults who are also in the school buildings.

Now let's recap.
I understand transmission appears to be higher in adults. I also understand symptoms appear to be higher in adults.
Its odd that you would say kids(who can get the virus and spread the virus) should obviously be in a place where the virus cN thrive.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Right, but the reason so many people are rushing to get tested is because so many people are getting it, or around those who do. They were either around these people or they are having symptoms. It's cyclical, but either way its going up.

I know a good many of these are younger people (18-35) not showing symptoms but the more younger people who have it increases the likelihood of older people getting it.

Disclaimer: Do no take medical advice from me. I do not know what I'm talking about and neither do most on this board.

Haha! Excellent Disclaimer, except NONE on this board know what they are talking about with regards to Covid-19. They are just reading or listening to the people that align with their “opinions“, then regurgitating it as “facts”, “truths”, or “Expert analysis.” We need SPORTS bad!!!

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

Ok, first off, I am not suggesting there be no school. Secondly, im not suggesting there be no in person school. Third, I didnt conveniently leave anything out or ignore anything in my prior comment.
Let's get that out of the way.

Next, and this is super important so pay attention, kids can aspread covid19. I know, its a surprise, but its real.
The big study with thousands of kids is in progress, so anything saying otherwise is based on a mix of small sample sizes and guesstimates.

I found it funny that you agree cool indoor locations is how it spreads and then said obviously kids should be in cool indoor buildings.
This doesnt even address all the adults who are also in the school buildings.

Now let's recap.
I understand transmission appears to be higher in adults. I also understand symptoms appear to be higher in adults.
Its odd that you would say kids(who can get the virus and spread the virus) should obviously be in a place where the virus cN thrive.

My whole point was that the predominant method of spreading the virus right now, based on all available data we have, is by adults during indoor gatherings. Of course, kids are capable of spreading it indoors too.

However, the whole point is that this is a pro/con, cost-benefit analysis. The cons for closing schools far outweigh the cons of keeping schools open.

 

[Drebin]

And many were masked up. Bars and restaurants (and other indoors places people congregate) have shown greater hotspot potential.

Anyone who doesn't thing protests have contributed to the increase in cases is a very special kind of retard.

As soon as the media quits reporting panic porn (like when they forgot about it for two weeks during the riots), covid will become a non-issue. I'm guessing that will likely be November 4.

 

[johnson86-1]

Oh itd be a shitshow if theybwweent in school. It will be a shitshow, regardless of how the school process goes for each district and state.

But that's beside the point I was asking about. I dont follow superhero's logic that it spreads jnside and of course kids should all be in cool central circulated schools for 7 hours each day.
Seems odd to say they should of course be there.

Because school is sort of important, and children's risk from COVID appears to be of the magnitude that we routinely bear without dramatically changing our lives, so it doesn't make sense to inflict all the harm on children that would result from having no school, plus there are the ancillary benefits of not financially wrecking a lot of families.

THe only reason to not have them in school would be if they were big spreaders, and everything we know (which granted isn't a ton) indicates they are not. Even if we find out they do spread the disease, we'd still need/want them in school unless and until the area they are in have overwhelmed hospitals.

 

[johnson86-1]

I don’t have a clue what to believe. I find it hard to believe these states with all these protest are doing so well, and the republican states are doing horrible.

There were protests all over republican states too. Not nearly as large, but had some relatively small towns with a few hundred people doing protests. Even if not many people got it at the protests, it still could seed a lot of cases. Our woke dipshit nephew showed up at a family event within a week of attending a protest on the coast. Nothing like what you see on tv, but I was still shocked at the number of people. I'm not good at judging crowds plus I'm guessing he took pictures to try to make the crowds look bigger, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than a 1,000 people there. And there were apparently two protests, one in the morning that was a "unity rally" and then in the afternoon there was a BLM march. Not sure how much overlap there was but the crowd looked big for both in the pictures.

We were mostly outside at our family event, so not sure how many people he likely would have infected if the woke dipshit had had it, but I'm sure that would show up in contact tracing as a big spread event at a family event, when it was still more or less caused by protests.

 

[JML105]

July Data for Florida

Date	Screenshots (<abbr title="Eastern Time" aria-label="Eastern Time" style="box-sizing: inherit; transition: border-bottom 0.15s ease 0s; border-bottom: none;">ET</abbr>)	New Tests	Cases	Negative	Pending	Hospitalized	Deaths	Total
Sun Jul 12 2020	12:06 am 12:07 pm 6:07 pm	98,708	269,811	2,304,196	2,096	18,590	4,346	2,574,007
Sat Jul 11 2020	12:08 am 12:06 pm 6:07 pm	53,672	254,511	2,220,788	2,040	18,341	4,301	2,475,299
Fri Jul 10 2020	12:07 am 6:07 am 12:07 pm 6:07 pm	64,229	244,151	2,177,476	1,911	17,916	4,203	2,421,627
Thu Jul 9 2020	12:06 am 6:07 am 12:07 pm 6:07 pm	37,191	232,718	2,124,680	1,896	17,479	4,111	2,357,398
Wed Jul 8 2020	12:07 am 6:07 am 12:07 pm 6:06 pm	51,013	223,783	2,096,424	1,773	17,068	3,991	2,320,207
Tue Jul 7 2020	12:36 am 6:38 am 12:36 pm	35,254	213,794	2,055,400	1,604	16,733	3,943	2,269,194
Mon Jul 6 2020	12:37 am 6:35 am 12:41 pm 6:38 pm	33,741	206,447	2,027,493	1,516	16,352	3,880	2,233,940
Sun Jul 5 2020	12:37 am 6:37 am 6:41 pm	53,702	200,111	2,000,088	1,508	16,201	3,832	2,200,199
Sat Jul 4 2020	12:36 am 6:35 am 12:35 pm 6:46 pm	65,137	190,052	1,956,445	1,672	16,040	3,803	2,146,497
Fri Jul 3 2020	6:36 am 12:38 pm 6:36 pm	49,177	178,594	1,902,766	1,717	15,795	3,785	2,081,360
Thu Jul 2 2020	12:36 am 6:37 am 12:35 pm 6:35 pm	51,829	169,106	1,863,077	1,683	15,454	3,718	2,032,183
Wed Jul 1 2020	12:36 am 6:37 am 12:35 pm 6:34 pm	35,359	158,997	1,821,357	2,094	15,125	3,650	1,980,354

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https://covidtracking.com/data/state/florida

 

[johnson86-1]

Every state east of the Rockies gets hot in the summer, except New England. It almost seems like hot weather increases the spread rather than hindering it.

I suspect we're going to find out that everybody was pretty unsuccessful at stopping the spread of the more contagious variant that moved through Europe and westward across the US. New England looked so awful to begin with because they were still cold. The Southeast and west looked good b/c they had moderate weather. Now, b/c of all the people indoors in air conditioning, the southeast and west look awful while it looks like the north east has gotten it under control. I'm guessing the places in the north east and to a lesser extent he midwest will start looking like they are acting like dumbasses when it gets cold again, and it will usddenly look like the southeast and west have started acting responsibly, before it gets cold in the southeast and west and they start to look like they are acting irresponsibly again.

 

[57stratdawg]

So, a +/- 20% increase in hospitalization and deaths month to date in July?

If SEC football doesn’t happen this fall, the leadership in Florida is a good starting point for people to blame.

 

[Sapsdawg]

Because other countries have done it with no increase in spread and the flu has killed many more children this season and is a MUCH greater risk to kids, yet no one suggests closing school in flu season.

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/schools-reopening-coronavirus/2020/07/10/865fb3e6-c122-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html[/FONT]

 

[Irondawg]

https://apple.news/AERVUOqD6SqikJ60XqYUAqQ

Little bit about why heat isn’t helping as much as hoped