Florida wants Kiffin.

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I haven’t read all of this thread, and it may have already been said, but I think there’s a good chance the LSU job might come open, and I think if he had to choose, that he would go there.
 
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You're probably talking about $400k+ a year difference. I think it's going to come into play for sure. If Florida offers him $10M, that's in reality a ~$1.36M annual pay raise and Ole Miss needs to come to north of $10.4M just to match.

Even for people making more pedestrian amounts, 4% is a big deal. If you are saving 20% of your gross, another 4% is increasing your annual savings by 20%. Over your career, that could reduce the time you need to work to retire by 5 years. In reality you will probably pay some of that by paying other taxes at a higher rate, but once you get to a couple of hundred in income, I suspect you start coming out comfortably ahead.
Not to mention giving more than 4 years as well
 

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The 2014 Orange Bowl loss to Georgia Tech is the equivalent of a first round playoff exit. Thus far, that was our ceiling as a program.
We played against Paul Johnson’s triple option. ANYBODY can be caught off guard and beaten by a good team running that uncommon scheme. If playoffs, that would have been the worse case first round match up for anyone in the playoffs. Plus not to mention Dan wasn’t all in at that point in the year either. Combined the two and that’s a no win against that scheme run at that level.
 
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We played against Paul Johnson’s triple option. ANYBODY can be caught off guard and beaten by a good team running that uncommon scheme. If playoffs, that would have been the worse case first round match up for anyone in the playoffs. Plus not to mention Dan wasn’t all in at that point in the year either. Combined the two and that’s a no win against that scheme run at that level.
Defensive coordinator had quit already and nobody cared after that Ole Miss game. Playoffs would've been completely different.
 
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I haven’t read all of this thread, and it may have already been said, but I think there’s a good chance the LSU job might come open, and I think if he had to choose, that he would go there.
I think UF is going to want something locked down before the LSU job comes open. Not sure how they're really going to work that though. I would assume Lane's not going to want to leave before the season, including playoffs if they make it, is over. But if he signs, there's no way to keep that quiet and may automatically terminate his existing contract with Ole Miss. But I don't see how UF just sits back with an agreement in principle with Lane. I don't think anybody wouldu assume he is beyond taking a better offer that comes along or renegotiating based on other jobs coming open.
 
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You're probably talking about $400k+ a year difference. I think it's going to come into play for sure. If Florida offers him $10M, that's in reality a ~$1.36M annual pay raise and Ole Miss needs to come to north of $10.4M just to match.

Even for people making more pedestrian amounts, 4% is a big deal. If you are saving 20% of your gross, another 4% is increasing your annual savings by 20%. Over your career, that could reduce the time you need to work to retire by 5 years. In reality you will probably pay some of that by paying other taxes at a higher rate, but once you get to a couple of hundred in income, I suspect you start coming out comfortably ahead.
You seem to be under the impression that states who don't collect income tax just do without that revenue and just don't collect that money.
 

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I think UF is going to want something locked down before the LSU job comes open. Not sure how they're really going to work that though. I would assume Lane's not going to want to leave before the season, including playoffs if they make it, is over. But if he signs, there's no way to keep that quiet and may automatically terminate his existing contract with Ole Miss. But I don't see how UF just sits back with an agreement in principle with Lane. I don't think anybody wouldu assume he is beyond taking a better offer that comes along or renegotiating based on other jobs coming open.
I could possibly see him leaving before the playoffs. It's not like it's unprecedented for him to leave a school at an awkward time.
 
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You seem to be under the impression that states who don't collect income tax just do without that revenue and just don't collect that money.
Yea, that's clearly what I think. I should have finished my statement with something along the lines of "In reality you will probably pay some of that by paying other taxes at a higher rate, but once you get to a couple of hundred in income, I suspect you start coming out comfortably ahead."**
 
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I could possibly see him leaving before the playoffs. It's not like it's unprecedented for him to leave a school at an awkward time.
The only reason I can't see it is that there doesn't seem to be a really good team this year so even though they're not that great and probably 30 teams have a realistic chance of beating them, I'm not sure who is different unless it's OSU (which I haven't paid attention to). Haven't paid attention to Indiana either but I just assume they're not that good because their Indiana, so maybe that's a bad assumption.

Not sure if this is going to be the norm going forward or if this is just a fluke year, but it looks to me like you could have a 16 team playoff and not have anybody that just can't win.
 

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Yea, that's clearly what I think. I should have finished my statement with something along the lines of "In reality you will probably pay some of that by paying other taxes at a higher rate, but once you get to a couple of hundred in income, I suspect you start coming out comfortably ahead."**
Probably. But I've seen some insanely high property tax bills in Texas.
 
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Probably. But I've seen some insanely high property tax bills in Texas.
Florida's property taxes don't seem to be like Texas's. Hard to tell because places assess property differently, with some assessments being close to market value and some not, but it doesn't appear to be nearly as bad. If he goes and gets a $15M spread, that will put a big dent in the savings, but still probably only around half of them based on what we pay in property taxes.
 
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Florida's property taxes don't seem to be like Texas's. Hard to tell because places assess property differently, with some assessments being close to market value and some not, but it doesn't appear to be nearly as bad. If he goes and gets a $15M spread, that will put a big dent in the savings, but still probably only around half of them based on what we pay in property taxes.
Now that you mention it, I've got a few clients who have property in Florida and I don't remember having a "holy sh&t" moment like when I saw that Texas property tax bill.
 
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Probably. But I've seen some insanely high property tax bills in Texas.
I can tell you from experience, property tax in Texas is astronomical. I paid at least twice as much in total taxes no income tax Texas than I did in Mississippi. 20 years ago I paid triple in property tax in Texas compared to what I pay now in Mississippi income tax with more than double the income and a house that is twice the value of the one I owned in Texas. If I add Mississippi property tax plus Mississippi income tax, the property tax in Texas goes down to only 50% more than what I pay in Mississippi. Just wait. Looks like a lot of Mississippians are about to FAFO what "no state income tax" is going to be like.
 
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These opportunities won’t be there 3 years from now. And even if one of them is, maybe Lanes not the hot target then like he is now. You don’t get to pick and choose when these opportunities come. You take advantage of them when they do. Or you don't. But if you don’t you may not get the chance again.
Times have changed. You don’t have to take jobs like that to win at a high level. As long as OM is committed to NIL, he will be a hard pull for the next couple years.
 

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Let’s see if they lose….oops…..when they lose to Oklahoma if he figures he cannot get to the playoffs with Ole Miss.
 

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Times have changed. You don’t have to take jobs like that to win at a high level. As long as OM is committed to NIL, he will be a hard pull for the next couple years.
Get back to me when someone other than the same old blue bloods do anything in the playoffs. Only teams to win a game last year were Ohio St, Notre Dame, Texas & Penn St.
 
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Get back to me when someone other than the same old blue bloods do anything in the playoffs. Only teams to win a game last year were Ohio St, Notre Dame, Texas & Penn St.
Yeah, Indiana is a real Blue-blood. Coaches will not be jumping to the “Bluebloods” like before. They don’t have to anymore.
 

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You seem to be under the impression that states who don't collect income tax just do without that revenue and just don't collect that money.
Everyone that visits Florida does which is why they come out ahead and if you think he's not coming out way ahead and 'just paying it elsewhere', you've lost it. They are also working on getting rid of homeowners tax so another plus.
 

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Times have changed. You don’t have to take jobs like that to win at a high level. As long as OM is committed to NIL, he will be a hard pull for the next couple years.
I don't see it. These schools can match what um is going to offer, not have to cut any resources and double the contract life so if he does get fired, which you know he doesn't think will happen, he can ride four years not coaching making big money.
 
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Everyone that visits Florida does which is why they come out ahead and if you think he's not coming out way ahead and 'just paying it elsewhere', you've lost it. They are also working on getting rid of homeowners tax so another plus.
That’s a good point about Florida with tourism taxes. Which are still taxes that are collected. I would suspect they hit Floridians to some extent also like Starkville tourism taxes aren’t just charged to people who don’t live there. I won’t pretend to know the state of Florida’s revenue breakdown.
 
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That’s a good point about Florida with tourism taxes. Which are still taxes that are collected. I would suspect they hit Floridians to some extent also like Starkville tourism taxes aren’t just charged to people who don’t live there. I won’t pretend to know the state of Florida’s revenue breakdown.
Can't find a breakdown but let's just say it doesn't benefit you being lower to lower mid class in Florida. That's why a lot of those people have moved out while people with money are moving in.