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mcdawg22

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Emoticons should be used only by 12 year old girls texting each other.
 
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If this is a hobby, then great job and well done.

If you are going to write for a living, then please take an English class. Spelling, punctuation, subject/verb agreement, etc. are important. Or maybe get an editor to proof-read. If an editor did proof this piece, then fire him. Everything that I read is full of errors. I showed my mother-in-law one of your articles and she almost cried. She taught honors English for 30+ years.
 

drt7891

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Eligibility is defined by the formation and the number the player is wearing. It doesn't just mean "Oh, these six guys are eligible. Go downfield, M17ers!" You can only have one wideout on the line of scrimmage on either side of the offensive line, in other words, 7 men on the line of scrimmage. All other "wideouts" must be considered a back, or behind the plane of the center's beltline. So if you have two wideouts on the line of scrimmage to the right, the inside guy is ineligible to go past the neutral zone and catch a pass. This rule mainly applies when receivers forget how to line up, a covered up tight end goes downfield to catch a pass, or a lineman peels off and runs downfield. Also, eligible receivers cannot wear numbers 50-79, except under very particular circumstances (gadget plays).<div>
</div><div>And for clarification "the box (not sure on the college rule for this distance) extends 3 to 5 yards into the defensive backfield, but extends indefinitely into the offensive backfield. It is defined by the offensive tackles, but it is in place NOT for the qb to see "who's in the box," but there are specific blocking rules that the "box" allows. You can clip, block in the back, block below the waist, anything but chop block. </div>
 

ckDOG

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What was our strategy when we ran those crazy formations where we had our guards and tackles on the line nearer to the sidelines? Are college defenses really dumb enough to get confused on who is an eligible receiver and who is not when an offense lines up like that? I could see this working well in pee wee football (or for a short period of time in high school when the A11 offense exploited lack of numbering requirements), but not in any sort of league where the coaches and players are intelligent. Spurrier ran something similar 3 or 4 times against us and it may have netted them 5 yards, at most. What are we trying to do? Just hope that they don't cover an eligible receiver or line up a DT on a RB or WR?
 

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ckDOG said:
What was our strategy when we ran those crazy formations where we had our guards and tackles on the line nearer to the sidelines? Are college defenses really dumb enough to get confused on who is an eligible receiver and who is not when an offense lines up like that? I could see this working well in pee wee football (or for a short period of time in high school when the A11 offense exploited lack of numbering requirements), but not in any sort of league where the coaches and players are intelligent. Spurrier ran something similar 3 or 4 times against us and it may have netted them 5 yards, at most. What are we trying to do? Just hope that they don't cover an eligible receiver or line up a DT on a RB or WR?
I think it was just Mullen trying to throw Alabama off. Steve Spurrier runs this formation all the time. It works sometimes so it can effective if used at right time.
 

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Les said that they called it thinking they were going to get alabama to use some of their timeouts, while we still were in it ...alabama just adjusted so they ran a play, then they tried it again to let alabama know they had plays and alabama still just adjusted.
 

drt7891

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No, defenses are generally going to line up on their assignments. If you go back and watch how Alabama defended the play, they put their corners and safeties over the eligible receivers. There just isn't a coverage that was practiced to effectively defend against plays like this, so they will man up and hope to rush the QB enough to force a crazy throw. It works better in lower leagues, like peewee and Jr. High for the reasons you mentioned, because most defenders don't have a CLUE who is eligible or not, they just line up where their coaches tell them to and hit who their coaches tell them to hit. In our case, Bama knew what the formation was and who to identify as receivers and backs, but we lined up fast enough to catch them still trying to match up on us and it worked in our favor.
 

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<div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">essentially, it is just realigning your offensive line (guards and tackles) to one side with backs and receivers, and put another WR and sometimes a back to the other side while leaving the center and QB over the ball to throw off the defense. It worked because Alabama did not call a timeout the first time we ran it and they didn't line up effectively. I've seen a lot of Jr. High football teams run these formations because it throws teams off, or simply makes them burn timeouts. <div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">The formation is effective for quick throws because it draws defenders to one aspect of the play. The problem is the quarterback has ZERO time to make a throw, but it is generally an unobstructed throw. The quarterback can throw toward the blockers behind the line of scrimmage and have a glorified screen pass, or throw right to a slant and generally not worry about someone cutting off the route. </div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">The most common place you see this formation is prior to extra points. They will generally run a "check" of sorts to see how the defense will play the extra point. Most of the time, teams check out of it, but that is an example where it is used fairly often. <br style="min-width: 0px; "><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; "></div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swinging_Gate_(American_football)</div><div>
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Some kind of screen behind the cluster of o-lineman was the only thing I could think of that might work to great success, but it would require a very quick (and long) throw and have a couple people drag *** on defense. I just couldn't ever remember an instance where it worked for more than a few yards.
 

drt7891

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a few yards or so. A time you MIGHT see that is in a 2 point conversion situation where you run a quick screen pass to that side and use your blockers to get your receiver to the endzone. But even well thought out and well practiced screen plays out of a swinging gate don't work well because of the long throw giving defenders time to blow it up. The quick slant we ran or even quarterback rushes work very well out of that formation. <div>
</div><div>On another note, if anyone can find a video of those plays, please post them. </div>
 

mcdawg22

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The problem with the screen is the lineman are out of place and you're telegraphing where the screen is going. Because the throw is so long it sets up for a pick six if an athletic DL gets good penetration.
 

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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(55, 55, 55); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px; "><p style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-family: inherit; font-size: 15px; font-style: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.625em; margin-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: inherit; ">Interception: This is when a defensive player catches the ball thrown by the quarterback. </span>If your significant other watches the Cowboys, you will hear him complain that Tony Romo needs to stop throwing so many interceptions in the fourth quarter.</p><div style="font-weight: 300; ">
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