Football isn't happening until the Spring

mc140

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If I was forced to make a bet I would say no football in spring.
 

mc140

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Pretty much any Illinois’ administrator’s stance since April. Thanks for trying so hard for the kids

Speaking of admins. I have not seen many (any?) public school districts come out as being pro high school football right now.
 

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I hate to have to say this. But a lot of what I am reading here about the state, who is elected, etc. are things I have been saying since the late 80s. No one wanted to listen back then because it didn't directly affect them...although it did. In general people don't pay attention to what's going on with those in powerl until it comes home to hurt them. Then it's usually too late.

Back in the early to mid 80s I never planned to leave Illinois. As time went on that all changed and in the last 10 years it has really ramped up. I am the same way as some others. My dad is 87. I am really the only one here who can take care of anything he would need although he is very self-sufficient. There is another family member, but sadly, she can't handle what would need to be done. He is the only one keeping me here. If he passes before I do I am gone from this state too. This state is a mess and has been for decades.
 

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Speaking of admins. I have not seen many (any?) public school districts come out as being pro high school football right now.
I agree. I find that unfathomable and disheartening. I would expect with the amount of non-corroborating data on all sides of the issue, that there would be vigorous debate raging daily. But, instead nothing, just nothing out of our most educated leaders with a bit of authority and that’s weird.
 

Wassup13_rivals219252

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I agree. I find that unfathomable and disheartening. I would expect with the amount of non-corroborating data on all sides of the issue, that there would be vigorous debate raging daily. But, instead nothing, just nothing out of our most educated leaders with a bit of authority and that’s weird.

It's not a coincidence, there is a reason for it.
 

godfthr53

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I have a very close friend principle who is pissed they aren't in school full time doing everything they can. He told me its all the unions keeping them home and there's no budging.
 

McCaravan

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What if the schools, parents and students just played the games anyway in the fall?

I mean look at all that happened to our city and our local government did nothing.
Awesome in theory but the IHSA could and would crucify the teams involved. There would be suspension of programs, firings of AD’s and Coaches, if anyone got hurt the insurance claims would be denied....Now if two teams just so happen to meet at a public park....
 

Wassup13_rivals219252

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Awesome in theory but the IHSA could and would crucify the teams involved. There would be suspension of programs, firings of AD’s and Coaches, if anyone got hurt the insurance claims would be denied....Now if two teams just so happen to meet at a public park....

Good points.

Let's get MC, Loyola, Naz and Montini to meet in the park.
 
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I’ve said it before but I think this has more to do with JB doing completely the opposite of the president’s wishes. The prez has dropped a number of digs on Illinois, right or wrong. Maybe with a change in November there will be loosening up but he’s gonna rule his way for now.
He is literally lining his pocket with $$$ every additional test that is taken. Then he says covid is endangering kids when since the "pandemic" started there has been 50 (15-19 year olds) lives taken by a gun in Illinois versus 3 COVID-19 deaths. So by keeping kids out of school and not participating in after school activities JB is actually endangering the lives of the kids more than the coronavirus
 
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I have a very close friend principle who is pissed they aren't in school full time doing everything they can. He told me its all the unions keeping them home and there's no budging.
This is a key point. Name a teacher's union that is calling for in-house schooling, let alone the resumption of sports. And in regards to the state of IL's many problems, one of the biggest is state government's fealty to public sector unions.
 
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I feel like no football in the spring is a death knell for the have-nots in the Chicagoland area.
 

Corey90

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I hate to have to say this. But a lot of what I am reading here about the state, who is elected, etc. are things I have been saying since the late 80s. No one wanted to listen back then because it didn't directly affect them...although it did. In general people don't pay attention to what's going on with those in powerl until it comes home to hurt them. Then it's usually too late.

Back in the early to mid 80s I never planned to leave Illinois. As time went on that all changed and in the last 10 years it has really ramped up. I am the same way as some others. My dad is 87. I am really the only one here who can take care of anything he would need although he is very self-sufficient. There is another family member, but sadly, she can't handle what would need to be done. He is the only one keeping me here. If he passes before I do I am gone from this state too. This state is a mess and has been for decades.

LTHS
I feel for you man. Although I love the people in Illinois I would never move back to the state. It really is sad but with the crime, weather and high taxes why would anyone want to stay? Nope not me. I am very close though right now living here in NW Indiana.
 

IgorStL

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I think it ramps them up. Looking at other states Governors dug in their feet as pressure started grow then did an about face a few weeks later. Sadly I think IL is different and there will be no winter or spring sports.
Unfortunately, I think you're right. The teacher's unions can't cry genocide if it's okay to play football. So JB will make the teacher's unions happy.
 

IgorStL

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This was a 75 yard Hail Mary pass. Did anyone think this ignorant billionaire would budge? I won’t get too much into the politics but we as a State suck at electing people. Everyone knew he would play the kids safety card and the million people in this state that care less about sports will back him by that statement alone.

The on going joke was we would have a vaccine by or shortly after the election and it appears to be going that way, so Spring will happen.

IHSA gave him control. Despite their recent efforts to right their wrong, they panicked and and passed the buck.Shame on them.
I'll stick up for IHSA. They had no choice. IDPH sat on proposals for weeks, then would approve them, then change stuff at the 11th hour. IHSA wanted to play. They put it in JB's hands so that HE would have to tell these kids that their parents are stupid and want them dead. Because COVID is so dangerous for them. Because HE sees science and data that he won't share with anyone else. Side note: has anyone seen then South Park from years ago about the Book of Mormon? It reminds me of JB with his special science and data.
 

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I'll stick up for IHSA. They had no choice. IDPH sat on proposals for weeks, then would approve them, then change stuff at the 11th hour. IHSA wanted to play. They put it in JB's hands so that HE would have to tell these kids that their parents are stupid and want them dead. Because COVID is so dangerous for them. Because HE sees science and data that he won't share with anyone else. Side note: has anyone seen then South Park from years ago about the Book of Mormon? It reminds me of JB with his special science and data.
In many regards I agree on IHSA but they are also suppose to represent the best interest of the membership...which are member schools and they really haven't done much of anything remotely looking like support or representing anyone but themselves here.

The interesting thing no one is talking about is that the IHSA truly answers to principals..and has anyone asked them what they feel/think and/or would vote on this issue?
 

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Look, JB’s got nothing to lose. He’s fine with the other Midwest governors caving. If everything goes south in all these states, he looks like a genius. If it doesn’t, he’ll claim he was looking out for the best interest of Illinoisans. He knows how the state votes and is banking on a blue wave this fall. His job is not in jeopardy.
 
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Chicago has been good to me, or at least it was for a long time. I was fortunate to have been blessed with the greatest job in the universe. I like my apartment in what used to be a nice area by the lake. I never thought of leaving until a bunch of anarchists trashed and torched the neighborhood. Street crime, which used to be rare, is now a daily occurrence. The cops are overwhelmed and the mayor refuses to ask the feds for help. The worst thing, though, is a State Attorney who believes in "compassionate justice." This means that felons are released without bail, free to commit the same felony again. I think it may be time to move.
 
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McCaravan

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Here's what I don't understand...and I'm sure there is a rule to this that I don't know of but if he allows football to resume with the parents consent, how can it be on him if God forbid something happens?? He can strongly advise against it but does he have the power to be the stop this? I'm hearing lawsuits will be filed tomorrow and we'll see how that goes. It's been said here thousand times but the parents of the players should have the final say if they are willing to risk it, therefore nothing would be on him if something happens. If he allows this and you agree to send your son out there and he contracts a bad case of Covid would you blame Pritzer? No....

Mount Carmel has been going to school five days a week, full time, with of course strong safety and precautions in place. So far so good. But as a parent I know damn right well some kid is going to take off his mask and sneeze and there is a chance my kid gets this, still I take that risk so he can be in school.

Also they are allowing contact days.....So you can practice and have contact but you can't play? Ridiculous. I really hope he listens to the protests but he will probably be in Wisconsin.
 
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mc140

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In many regards I agree on IHSA but they are also suppose to represent the best interest of the membership...which are member schools and they really haven't done much of anything remotely looking like support or representing anyone but themselves here.

The interesting thing no one is talking about is that the IHSA truly answers to principals..and has anyone asked them what they feel/think and/or would vote on this issue?

I do not think many principals want to play. Which is why the IHSA was not very forceful in the summer. If the membership was 400 plus strong wanting football this fall at the very least it would have been in the news cycle all of August with pressure on JB.
 

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Like Notre Dame and ACC. Could the privates break off from the IHSA this year and played all their sports given that these schools receive zero dollars from the state? Assume IHSA would not allow this to happen . Great way to increase enrollment