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......is a dead end discussion.

"There's a presidential committee that's kind of looking at that as well, but as athletic directors, we try to look at the bigger picture of what actual teams and partners we could bring in that would add value to the conference and that's still being explored,” Lyons said.
 
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LowFatMilk said:
......is a dead end discussion.

"There's a presidential committee that's kind of looking at that as well, but as athletic directors, we try to look at the bigger picture of what actual teams and partners we could bring in that would add value to the conference and that's still being explored,” Lyons said.
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have folks here really expressed expansion was dead?
 
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LowFatMilk said:
Have I overreacted ?

I tend to do that when replying to posters who typically trash me. If that's not you I apologize .
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Not sure if you over-reacted because I don't know your reaction pattern to judge it as such. The act of trashing others is probably grounded in the subjected, so if you have been trashed in your past, I'll take you on face value you have been trashed for the content of your posts. If others have trashed you for what you have posted I hope the intention on what was posted wasn't to get trashed. You may know some people post a comment thinking they are right in what they post while trying to provoke a response, even to get "trashed". There is also the need to have the last word grounded in the idea they are right and others are wrong.
 
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Key word in his statement 'value'...none of the programs bandied about over the last year or so interest me at all in that capacity other than MAYBE BYU...depending on how much of a headache they are to deal with in terms of any specific needs or more accurately wants...I'd be happy to sit and wait a few years to pounce on a couple teams that are unhappy with their power 5 conference lot in life and want more $$$...I don't think Okla and Tex are going anywhere anytime soon...just my opinion
 
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There have been a few interesting suggestions over the past year. And even if their athletic departments are not what you would consider all that good - with the additional money they would earn they would grow into much better programs. Those two teams would bring nice markets into the conference and would move the conference into areas that other conferences have wrapped up right now. Those are Memphis, Northern Illinois and Cincy. (There are many that hate Cincy but they would be a perfect partner in the east for WVU). NIU would be a good partner for ISU and both Cincy and NIU would get us into the Big 10 market.
 
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The BIG realignment won't happen for quite sometime. When that occurs, teams in the northeast will compete against teams in the northeast, southeast vs southeast, and so on and so forth. Doubtful many of us will be around when that happens. Until then Texas A&M can make believe they have better rivalries in the SEC vs local Texas teams, Colorado can pretend they have rivalries in the PAC 12, Rutgers and Maryland can attempt to convince their fans they have something in common with Nebraska and Northwestern, fans will continue to pack suitcases for away games and so on and so forth. I know it's about the $$, but someday college football conferences & universities will be able to have both $$, and conference games in which teams that compete against each other have something remotely in common. As far as Big 12 conference expansion, how about UCLA or USC as an anchor on the West Coast to balance out WV on the East Coast? At this point does it really matter?
 
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torontoeers said:
Key word in his statement 'value'...none of the programs bandied about over the last year or so interest me at all in that capacity other than MAYBE BYU...depending on how much of a headache they are to deal with in terms of any specific needs or more accurately wants...I'd be happy to sit and wait a few years to pounce on a couple teams that are unhappy with their power 5 conference lot in life and want more $$$...I don't think Okla and Tex are going anywhere anytime soon...just my opinion
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The only teams that could add value would be those that we had a chance to add and didn't. Now if the ACC continues to have trouble with $$$ then maybe we'll have another shot.
 
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I haven't read the source article for the OP's quote but this "discussion" has been on-going for nearly 20 years within every conference and I suspect it will continue for another decade or more. Conferences are revenue-generating organizations and they will always be looking to improve and expand their profits and adding markets through the acquisition of universities will always serve as a primary vehicle to increase media dollars.

To my knowledge the B12 has never released it's internal valuations of would-be members so all we can do is speculate on their preferences. We'll see movement when the money works and until then I'll just be thankful WVU found a place at the table.

Without knowing the conferences and media partner's formula for evaluating potential members, "value" will be subjective and as we've learned the fan perspective is not what sways movement.
 
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Darth_VadEER said:
I haven't read the source article for the OP's quote but this "discussion" has been on-going for nearly 20 years within every conference and I suspect it will continue for another decade or more.
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I doubt that every conference in the last 20 years has had a presidential committee (looking into viable expansion candidates) while at the same time declaring that the league is completely comfortable with just its current membership.

There's no way such a 'presidential committee' can be considered business as usual.
 
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LowFatMilk said:
I doubt that every conference in the last 20 years has had a presidential committee (looking into viable expansion candidates) while at the same time declaring that the league is completely comfortable with just its current membership.

There's no way such a 'presidential committee' can be considered business as usual.
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That would require an understanding and knowledge of what's considered usual business within a major athletic conference.

There are many committees within conferences and the only reason you know about the Presidential Committee is because it appears our AD publicly mentioned it in an interview. I do know other similar committees have been formed in the past and because conferences never provide admissions that they're actively recruiting universities I'm not surprised you've never seen them publicly co-exist.
 
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Darth_VadEER said:
That would require an understanding and knowledge of what's considered usual business within a major athletic conference.
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Oh.... ..feel free to give your resume... ....since you're obviously willing to share your 'opinion' about what's business as usual for a major athletic conference..... ....yet ridicule another poster for not having the 'understanding and knowledge'.

Be specific....because I expect to be 'wowed'...
 
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