Did you find it a little hypocritical of Dicky V bashing Mcgwire, Sosa, and Bonds for being "cheaters" , and them turning right around and praising Calapari for the job he has done at Kentucky. The guy is a proven cheater. I used to like Vitale but my opinion is changing.
For those who watched the Kentucky v. Florida game last night
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Did you find it a little hypocritical of Dicky V bashing Mcgwire, Sosa, and Bonds for being "cheaters" , and them turning right around and praising Calapari for the job he has done at Kentucky. The guy is a proven cheater. I used to like Vitale but my opinion is changing.
Cal is not a proven cheater, so Vitale has semantics in his favor on that one. I think it's pretty widely understood what goes on in his programs, but he's never been directly linked to any of it. I guess he just has really bad luck. If Calipari walked into FedExForum, the scene in Knoxville last night would look like nap time at a retirement home by comparison.
because of improprieties with Derek Rose. Are we suppose to believe Cal was ignorant of everything that happened?
However, I did notice that Kentucky and Florida have talent that is equal to, or worse, than ours.</p>
Just some sarcasm futaba. Read the thread by Baderdawg about UK's talent level compared to ours. Just poking fun.
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credible or otherwise, that says different. I've looked and I can't find any. As to UMass, Camby messed around with an agent, that's all.
I've been amazed at the allegations that Calipari cheats, since there's a complete absence of any evidence -- again, credible or otherwise -- indicating that he's ever paid for a player or screwed around with test scores. Either directly or indirectly I might add.
I've been amazed at the allegations that Calipari cheats, since there's a complete absence of any evidence -- again, credible or otherwise -- indicating that he's ever paid for a player or screwed around with test scores. Either directly or indirectly I might add.
I'm surprised at the number of people defending Calipari in this thread. Although technically Cal is not a proven cheater at this point, neither was McGwire 3 days ago. Vitale always does this crap, he praises who is at the top no matter what. He made the comment that Cal is trying to become the second coach to take 3 teams to a Final 4 (Pitino is the other). I'm pretty sure that technically he's trying to take his first team to the Final 4, unless you still count Memphis '07 since they are still appealing.
I think there has been enough turnover under Stansbury to show that he does expect some sort of degree of discipline from his players. Coach Cal is the epitome of hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil. He turns more blind eyes than Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles put together.ckDOG said:
1) Yes, hypocrisy is involved.
2) It should come to nobody's surprise that there would be defense of somebody like Calipari. He can be defended as he has never been proven of wrongdoing at any schools he's coached. Just like we are quick to claim Renardo Sidney hasn't been proven (yet) of wrongdoing while in high school. In both cases, we think it's "likely" that each is shady. But, they are off the hook when there is no proof. Same situation.
3) I wasn't trying to compare Stans or Cal.
Personally, I think Cal is a dipshit cheating *** hole and Renardo Sidney is a Saint. I'm a biased hypocrite in this instance. I'm okay with that.
2) It should come to nobody's surprise that there would be defense of somebody like Calipari. He can be defended as he has never been proven of wrongdoing at any schools he's coached. Just like we are quick to claim Renardo Sidney hasn't been proven (yet) of wrongdoing while in high school. In both cases, we think it's "likely" that each is shady. But, they are off the hook when there is no proof. Same situation.
3) I wasn't trying to compare Stans or Cal.
Personally, I think Cal is a dipshit cheating *** hole and Renardo Sidney is a Saint. I'm a biased hypocrite in this instance. I'm okay with that.
the heads of these idiot UK fans. Alas, there is nothing. And by the way, the content of my other posts is essentially what I hear from UK fans whenever this issue comes up -- he doesn't pay for players, he doesn't manipulate test scores, and there's no evidence of any wrongdoing on his part, anywhere, ever. Too bad no one has any ammo for me to fire back with.
He is responsible for what his players do. If there is any kind of cheating on their part, then he has part of the blame as their coach. If he wants to restore any kind of credibility, then he has to punish the players involved. Calipari has never done anything of the sort. All of the penalties were found after the fact and tacked on to the university in question after he packed up and left for another job.jackstefano said:
UK fans are idiots. The sad part is that I'm sure Coach Cal will do just fine at Kentucky and probably bring home a few national titles.
The difference is that Renardo will never play ball here and that POS Calipari will have a successful career at Kentucky. When Sidney is off the hook, I'll gladly eat crow over this.ckDOG said:
Isn't there someone that basically channels AAU players to him and then once they are done with school he sets them up with agents? I forget his name but seems like people have talked about him sitting directly behind the bench at UK. Seems like if Cal says "it sure would be nice if Rose got another 10 points on his ACT to get eligible" and then someone just happens to set up a person to take his test for him. I guess Cal isn't to blame technically.
They only forfeit if the school knew about it and didn't do anything about it. Calipari has had to forfeit both of his Final Four appearances at two different schools. To think that he didn't know what was going on is just incredibly naive or intentionally blind.
...Google "Calipari and Worldwide Wes." Read all the stories. Worldwide Wes acts as a go between between agents and players, so the players don't deal with an agent. He is kind of an agent for agents, and channels AAU stars to specific coaches who work with him.jackstefano said:
How can you punish a player who is no longer on your team? UK certainly has idiots in its fan base, but MSU still has the dumbest fan base in America.AdamDawgDude said:
Bulldog Backer said:
That's some real earth shattering news there, Backer.
If you really think Bury has never dealt with a runner or a street agent, you're more naive than I thought. And that's saying something.