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Super impressed with US today. The tie match rule per injury is insanely dumb. Feel terrible for Henley. He played awesome today and it sucks for it to end that way. Burns showed great class on 17 and wish McIntyre had returned the gesture on 18 though I know why he didn’t.
We straight kicked the Euros best players asses today and it sucks the US didn’t at least get a tie out of it.
We straight kicked the Euros best players asses today and it sucks the US didn’t at least get a tie out of it.
Morikawa should not have been on the team. That decision alone may have been the nail in the proverbial coffin
Lots of bad decisions on this team. Keegan has never been a captain at all. The worst possible decision on a pairing was Morikawa, and harris, and rolled them out twice.
I’ll buy a lot of things, but Lowry saying winning this was more important than winning the Open Championship in northern Ireland.
Lol, I ain’t buying that.
Lol, I ain’t buying that.
Who would have ever thought we had a chance to win after those first two days?? We got no breaks at all and they got every break. I'm still proud of our guys!
It should be no points awarded to either side and adjust the total needed to retain/win. It was barely won on the course. Bottom line, you can’t go into the final day trailing by 7. Just inexcusable.
Maybe its not a fully true statement, but I think this is where there is a big disconnect between the teams.
Very easily could say Europe won because of the Hovland injury. Completely different set of pressure without that extra half-point and Europe crumbled under the pressure today.
I think the current rule is equivalent to what you are recommending. Just a semantic difference in giving a half point to both (current rule) vs lowering the points needed to win by a half point.
ETA—I think a forfeit should be a full point for the opponent, but I can understand why the current rule is in place.
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Hovland is as talented a golfer as you will find. But that putter gets shaky in crunch time
Victor sure didn’t act like he was hurting while with the Euro team at 18
Victor sure didn’t act like he was hurting while with the Euro team at 18
instead of both teams getting half a point , the players that are group 1 on Sunday play their match , then if needed , they go to the 10th tee and play a 9 hole match to settle it
I think the US being able to play loose (they were already out of it) on Sunday helped them.
Or is it the opposite, i.e. *more* pressure to finally score some points? For example, Scottie going into Sunday being 0-4 didn't allow him to play loose IMHO.
I think it went like this.. Two teams playing pretty evenly but then Rose misses on 18 but Cam Young makes. Crowd on 18 green goes crazy. Fleetwood is on 18 tee and obviously knows what just happened. Maybe that caused him to tighten up a bit, but either way JT wins 18 and wins another point. BdC has been on a rampage for several holes, hears the crowd on 18, and proceeds to complete his almost-comeback. etc etc.
I was at the Ryder Cup at Hazeltine in '16 on Saturday and Sunday and it was crazy how contagious the momentum on Sunday seemed to be. The roars around the course and all of the sudden seemingly every US putt is dropping while the Euro putts are lipping out. It just looks to me like a snowball effect kind of thing, and I think the difference was that our first guys out on the course simply helped get it rolling.
You may be right. Europe could have taken their foot off the gas too.
The Americans clearly had a fantastic day. But why is that only in singles?
It is interesting that the three Euro players who played in all 5 events, Rory, Fleetwood, and Rahm, all lost on Sunday. Mental and/or physical exhaustion?
Some people will blame it on our pairings but I'm not so sure any combination of our players would've had better luck against opponents that were playing as well as the Euros were. Chamblee made the point that the American teams on Saturday played as well, score-wise to par, as the Euros had on Friday, yet we still fell into a bigger hole because the Euros upped their game even higher.
I do know that there is a lot more to Ryder Cup captaincy than just the pairings, but I'm not believing that there is any kind of preparation (VR headset silliness, etc) that prepares one team to make more 20 foot putts than the other. I think Europe simply has more battle-tested winners than we do, currently.
And yes, the fatigue thing probably does/did come into play. My guess is that the Euros will sit their big names at least one session in '27. McGinley said as much last night when asked about whether they had made any mistakes.
Chamblee is probably right on this, but he's still a blowhard.
I can't stand the guy and his self-appointed pontiff role over all things golf
Never seen someone with a higher opinion of himself and his thoughts than Chamblee
I’ve done almost a 180 on Chamblee. He is definitely a know-it-all and he can get defensive when challenged. But, that guy comes to the show prepared. He does his homework and the show is better for it. I’d be disappointed if they replaced him.
Agreed. Count me in the group that is a big fan of Chamblee.
When you speak as much as he does, folks can find something wrong his view. I get that. But, as you said, he's extremely prepared.
Hot Take from ^^* - the USA lost by a point without even preparing, so clearly the USA had the better players.
I haven't been able to stomach the guy for years. For years, he made it his goal to badmouth Tiger any chance he got. -&(#@ him!
They should bring this exhibition to Pebble Beach. It’s a venue that can dial in whatever difficulty you want and more Americans know the course well. Plus I’d watch any tournament played there.
I’d also like to see the captains be a little more bold with there choices. If you’re going to take Griffin, take Novack as we know they can play well and win. I like Morikawa, but you can’t take a player who has been slumping for so long.
Colin’s game was a mess
I would be up for a system where points grew as we get closer to the Ryder Cup to put an emphasis on guys playing well going in
Which highlights the first mistake made by the PGA of America - deviating from the task force.
SMH
I'm still concerned how Keegan used Morikawa/English in foursomes. Was he stubborn or did our analytics people have their heads in the sand?