Former Duke player accused of rape.
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Unless it has happened to you (not you specifically, but anyone), it's hard to imagine what's going through a victim's mind. It's easy for some of us to say, "Well, you should have done this...", but unless we've been there, we honestly don't know.
If you don’t speak up at the time and come forward years or decades later don’t expect me to take your motives as being sincere
Sorry
Yes, the multiple people that said they interviewed said they don't ever remember such a party. Also, the folks she listed as witnesses said the same thing. She couldn't remember the date, where it happened, etc.
You tell me how it was proven true?
It's not hard to imagine being a victim of a serious crime. I'm sorry but I use common sense to judge every situation and a girl getting raped and reporting it to the Dean but not the police doesn't pass the smell test.
But didnt you just jump conclusions blaming the left and political grandstanders and saying you found it likely untrue? That seems a bit hypocritical, no?
There’s already a lot more to the Va Lt. Gov thing than with Kavanaugh. Starting with specific time and place, multiple non-sensational allegations (2 already and supposedly more to come), perp and victim know each other, claims of contemporaneous statements made to multiple people. It’s certainly much more falsifiable, if false.
An internet 'guy' has standards about women coming forward with sexual assault. Apologies not everyone that gets sexually assaulted meets those idiotic standards.
I hope when you become an adult you fully understand what you're saying today because it's quite idiotic.
The burden of proof lies with the accuser. You can’t prove a negative
I heard you beat and rape your wife prove to me you aren’t a predator
Apologies, but I disagree. Unless you're a woman, you have no idea what it's like being a woman. Your way of life is not the same as the other gender's.
Get back at me when its all settled and we'll see. Weve seen this movie before.
In case some of you need a little bit of respective perspective.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...nce-to-report-brett-kavanaugh-0926-story.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2323517/
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180926-myths-about-sexual-assault-and-rape-debunked
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...nce-to-report-brett-kavanaugh-0926-story.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2323517/
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180926-myths-about-sexual-assault-and-rape-debunked
I agree. There seems to be a lot more info in this than the Kavanaugh fiasco. He openly admitted he knew her. Hopefully the real truth comes out whichever way that takes it.
I know several women and if any of them were the victim of a felony, they would all call the police instead of the Dean. You're acting like women are helpless mouth breathing idiots, they are not.
Yeah because I understand what the true motive is which is to destroy powerful men with unfounded accusations. Now if you can prove it it’s a different story, but that’s too often not the case but the media tears you apart anyway. I don’t wanna live in a country like that if you or anyone else does go back to the ussr
Being corroborated doesn't make it untrue. Everyone who jas interviewed her has said she appears credible. Also, her witnesses said they couldn't remember the specific night in detail, but that they did admit to attending several parties like the one mentioned. She also knew a lot of details about the guys around that time frame, like when and where they worked, who they socialized with, parties they attended. Seems credible.
Regardless, you did say it was proven false, but that isn't accurate at all. It was never on trial to be decided. Statute of limitations was expired. That was just a senate hearing to decide whether to confrim a justice. 47 people agreed with her side pf events. Well over the amount needed to convict in a court of law.
Yeah, I never said that at all. You just said that. All I said was that you're not a woman, so you have no idea what it's like being a woman. Your expectations of how to handle situations are far from the same.
Not sure how that got lost in translation, but there it is again.
Some of you need to educate yourselves a bit:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...nce-to-report-brett-kavanaugh-0926-story.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2323517/
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180926-myths-about-sexual-assault-and-rape-debunked
Reading is fun and informative.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...nce-to-report-brett-kavanaugh-0926-story.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2323517/
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180926-myths-about-sexual-assault-and-rape-debunked
Reading is fun and informative.
Nobody could say for certain Kavanugh was at the party, nobody could say for certain that it happened at all. You just seem to want to accept it because you either don't like Kavanaugh or have a political agenda.
He went through 7 FBI background checks. Nothing ever came up that caused them to further investigate him on this accusation.
You must surely believe this lady against Fairfax and the very long list of Bill Clinton accusers then.
When was the trial again?
Burden of proof doesn't detail whether something is actually true or false. Just whether it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The accused in this case will likely never go on trial because a statute of limitations is likely passed, but that doesn't change what did or didn't happen. Nor will it change public perception.
Facts are very few women actually faslely accuse someone of sexual assault. I know men like to think they do, but the public embarrassment and shame most women have to experience publicly from such admissions are enough to deter most anyone from reporting it period. Far, far more often women don't report sexual assaults becuse of the embarrassment and shame.
SO you know for sure Kavanaugh and Fairfax are guilty? How do you know?
I have no sympathy for anyone that sexually assaulted a human being, regardless of political affiliation.
And I have zero faith in our government when it comes to investigating anything. It's all politically motivated, both parties.
So an intelligent woman who is the victim of rape would report the crime to the Dean of her school instead of the police? That sounds reasonable to you?
Also, are you even a woman or do you just like speaking for them?
Yeah I didn’t drink up your whiny liberal crap so you resort to personal insults. I nailed you to a cross you bum
Have I mentioned that moron at all in anything I've stated? Nope. Not sure why you're focusing on him.
I have ZERO affiliation with any political party, idiot. Strike two for you.
Yeah I'm not taking anything the BBC says about rape seriously after they protect that pedophile Saville.
One thing is for sure, the sports media is gonna treat this rape allegation like a Baylor rape allegation. It likely wont even be a story like the Suliamon case.
Lol, where did I say I beleived one way or the other? That was you saying it was proven lies, not me. I said it wasn't proven at all, which is entirely true. Not only was it not proven, it was never on trial to be proven.
Well, considering there are the lewinski tapes that show he was a sexual pervert, and multiple women have accused him and have credible strories, i would say yea, i beleive them. I don't like Hillary either! So what now?
Fairfax needs to go! Both cases deserve to be heard and decided, but 2 accusations in less than a week and it's time to resign. Also, the Governor and AG need to go as well!
Gosh, it's like repeating the same thing over and over again. We'll go this direction.
You're not a woman so you have no idea what you're talking about, nor can you speculate what is going through a woman's mind after she is sexually assaulted and what she should be doing.
Again, I'm not sure where you're getting lost here, but you're definitely getting lost halfway through.
THAT I can agree with because you can't cast a bad light on Duke in this. That means revenue will be lost. People in power won't let that happen.
I'm not going to get political so all I say is, innocent til proven guilty. This modern idea of guilty til proven innocent destroys innocent lives and worse creates Boy Who Called Wolf for actual assault.
What about the OJ's and Casey Anthony's of the world that are guilty as hell but proven innocent somehow?
I hope so too. Just think, if ncaa finds anything on duke, no telling what program will get sanctions. (It wont be duke...)
Long time acc school gets caught with huge infraction and ncaa goes after some random program as a distraction while the original mess is covered/cleaned up.