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Chambers= Cardinal Gibbons, Highland Springs
Cardinal Gibbons= Chambers, Bergen Catholic
Mallard Creek= South Pointe, Gaffney, Buford GA

Yep, you said it. You're not even from here. You proved it. East Forsyth has never scheduled teams on the level of the teams listed above. Learn what's going on in the State, before you make, uninformed statements.
I think he meant in the Winston Greensboro Area
 

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Chambers= Cardinal Gibbons, Highland Springs
Cardinal Gibbons= Chambers, Bergen Catholic
Mallard Creek= South Pointe, Gaffney, Buford GA

Yep, you said it. You're not even from here. You proved it. East Forsyth has never scheduled teams on the level of the teams listed above. Learn what's going on in the State, before you make uninformed statements.
I clearly said AREA......THIS GUY 1😂
 

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Wow I didn’t realize that East doesn’t schedule the top Charlotte schools or any team out of state.
 

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Wow I didn’t realize that East doesn’t schedule the top Charlotte schools or any team out of state.
Nope & Nope. The alleged they're willing to play anybody, anywhere? Maybe true, but the schedule says elsewise. IJS! Also in his post, he implied that fights in the stands, can't or don't happen at a very Safe EF. Which is false. Some things you can't control. While throwing shade at another school. Everyone knows EF is a very talented program, with a strong coaching staff. All the other stuff is unnecessary.
 
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Nope & Nope. The alleged they're willing to play anybody, anywhere? Maybe true, but the schedule says elsewise. IJS! Also in his post, he implied that fights in the stands, can't or don't happen at a very Safe EF. Which is false. Some things you can't control. While throwing shade at another school. Everyone knows EF is a very talented program, with a strong coaching staff. All the other stuff is unnecessary.
It definitely would be nice to see them playbout of state teams, I think they can compete ...
 

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I do wish East Forsyth would schedule some tough out of State teams, I also think Charlotte area teams do a better job of doing that than East Forsyth.

I believe you will see Coach Willert start doing that next year and the years to come. West Forsyth does pretty good scheduling Virginia power teams like Oscar Smith and GW Danville but nobody else does in the CPC.
 

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I do wish East Forsyth would schedule some tough out of State teams, I also think Charlotte area teams do a better job of doing that than East Forsyth.

I believe you will see Coach Willert start doing that next year and the years to come. West Forsyth does pretty good scheduling Virginia power teams like Oscar Smith and GW Danville but nobody else does in the CPC.
Greensboro and Forsyth County are kind of geographically screwed a little with scheduling out of state powers . They are not really near the part of VA that has the super power teams. They are not close enough to Tennessee or South Carolina Either. Charlotte is right there so a quick jump and you can be in Gaffney or Northwestern ect. So scheduling out of state powers will take a lot of travel and $$$$$. Just traveling to Charlotte or Asheville is a hike from the triad
 
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Greensboro and Forsyth County are kind of geographically screwed a little with scheduling out of state powers . They are not really near the part of VA that has the super power teams. They are not close enough to Tennessee or South Carolina Either. Charlotte is right there so a quick jump and you can be in Gaffney or Northwestern ect. So scheduling out of state powers will take a lot of travel and $$$$$. Just traveling to Charlotte or Asheville is a hike from the triad
Got to disagree with you on this one. It's be much easier drive going to VA, DC, MD from the Triad compared to Charlotte. Hell it's even easier getting to PA and OH coming for the Triad. I'm shocked NOBODY not EF, Grimsley, Dudley, Reagan, Tabor, NOBODY goes out of state.

Kinda see why Charlotte schools have a much bigger profile than schools from the Triad. Playing elite competition helps!
 

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Got to disagree with you on this one. It's be much easier drive going to VA, DC, MD from the Triad compared to Charlotte. Hell it's even easier getting to PA and OH coming for the Triad. I'm shocked NOBODY not EF, Grimsley, Dudley, Reagan, Tabor, NOBODY goes out of state.

Kinda see why Charlotte schools have a much bigger profile than schools from the Triad. Playing elite competition helps!
Charlotte boarders SC and is a lot closer to good teams there. To get to DC from Winston that's 5 1/2 hours by car 6 hrs and 20min to Pittsburgh over 4 1/2 to VA Beach. Yea not that close
 

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Got to disagree with you on this one. It's be much easier drive going to VA, DC, MD from the Triad compared to Charlotte. Hell it's even easier getting to PA and OH coming for the Triad. I'm shocked NOBODY not EF, Grimsley, Dudley, Reagan, Tabor, NOBODY goes out of state.

Kinda see why Charlotte schools have a much bigger profile than schools from the Triad. Playing elite competition helps!
East has also played a Raleigh and Asheville school the past few seasons as well. They don't really have an excuse not to play a Charlotte school. I was speaking with one of the Dudley posters in the 3A forum a little while ago asking why they don't generally play tougher opponents and he was telling me Guilford County had more of a say in who they play so their options are limited or something to that nature.
 
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Got to disagree with you on this one. It's be much easier drive going to VA, DC, MD from the Triad compared to Charlotte. Hell it's even easier getting to PA and OH coming for the Triad. I'm shocked NOBODY not EF, Grimsley, Dudley, Reagan, Tabor, NOBODY goes out of state.

Kinda see why Charlotte schools have a much bigger profile than schools from the Triad. Playing elite competition helps!
Greensboro and Forsyth County are kind of geographically screwed a little with scheduling out of state powers . They are not really near the part of VA that has the super power teams. They are not close enough to Tennessee or South Carolina Either. Charlotte is right there so a quick jump and you can be in Gaffney or Northwestern ect. So scheduling out of state powers will take a lot of travel and $$$$$. Just traveling to Charlotte or Asheville is a hike from the triad

Page had Highland Springs, Va on the schedule just before Covid and we also used to play GW Danville, Va
 
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Greensboro and Forsyth County are kind of geographically screwed a little with scheduling out of state powers . They are not really near the part of VA that has the super power teams. They are not close enough to Tennessee or South Carolina Either. Charlotte is right there so a quick jump and you can be in Gaffney or Northwestern ect. So scheduling out of state powers will take a lot of travel and $$$$$. Just traveling to Charlotte or Asheville is a hike from the triad
Definitely agree with you there but look at the booster club money you would raise . East Forsthy fans travel well . At least scrimmage before season starts ..
 

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East forsyth is always going to be good ,Just for the simple fact that they're willing to play other good teams to test themselves not like that other team. It's definitely run like a college there,From the classes the players take & how there prepared mentally and practice for every game . I was very impressed with the organization at East forsthy.
LOL. You do realize the only reason East Forsyth is good is because of open enrollment right? They were straight garbage when they played in the Metro 4A.
 

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LOL. You do realize the only reason East Forsyth is good is because of open enrollment right? They were straight garbage when they played in the Metro 4A.
This is correct, the all time record of Page and East Forsyth is something near 38-16 Page
 

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East forsyth is always going to be good ,Just for the simple fact that they're willing to play other good teams to test themselves not like that other team. It's definitely run like a college there,From the classes the players take & how there prepared mentally and practice for every game . I was very impressed with the organization at East forsthy.
Are you speaking of Grimsley? Because their non-con schedule was actually harder than your EF Eagles. Page had a harder non-con schedule than your boys as well. You really want everyone on this board to tell you how good East Forsyth is. I mean we get it…
 

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LOL. You do realize the only reason East Forsyth is good is because of open enrollment right? They were straight garbage when they played in the Metro 4A.
Are you speaking of Grimsley? Because their non-con schedule was actually harder than your EF Eagles. Page had a harder non-con schedule than your boys as well. You really want everyone on this board to tell you how good East Forsyth is. I mean we get it…
When was the last time Page won something ? GreensBoro high only won that title because east had 7 players graduate in december to leave for college early. Last time PAGE was good they had Brian taylor & Dana Murray ,Willie Wright ....GTFOH
 

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You Seen what #8 did to Noah Rogers when East Played Them 0 catches.... open Enrollment ,Its no more open enrollment at East Forsyth anymore , But look at GreensBoro High School look at there roster and tell me whos really in district . Stop DICK RIDING,GreensBoro High School started winnin g how long ago when Trav got there. Your whrillitized. How they got the best players off every school in the county ? How they got 5 stars & they dont have 5 star numbers.
 
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To be fair I criticized Butler in the past for not really scheduling out of state as much as they should. They did make up for it by scheduling Page, Tabor, Richmond County and there were years when Mallard Creek couldn’t find anyone in the city/state to play them so Butler would play them. I would love to see East Forsyth against a Mallard Creek or Butler.
 

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If you have to ask, you must not have been around very long. Page went to back to back 4AA state championship games in 2016, 2017, and probably should have went back in 18, but came up short against Mallard Creek in a 9-5 rock fight.
You wish you went to GreensBoro High Tell Truth Lord......
 

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You Seen what #8 did to Noah Rogers when East Played Them 0 catches.... open Enrollment ,Its no more open enrollment at East Forsyth anymore , But look at GreensBoro High School look at there roster and tell me whos really in district . Stop DICK RIDING,GreensBoro High School started winnin g how long ago when Trav got there. Your whrillitized. How they got the best players off every school in the county ? How they got 5 stars & they dont have 5 star numbers.
^ What is wrong with this guy? Lol. You can dish it but can’t take it huh? Page high school won a title in 2011 and was just in two 4aa title games. One of the most storied programs in the state.
 

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You Seen what #8 did to Noah Rogers when East Played Them 0 catches.... open Enrollment ,Its no more open enrollment at East Forsyth anymore , But look at GreensBoro High School look at there roster and tell me whos really in district . Stop DICK RIDING,GreensBoro High School started winnin g how long ago when Trav got there. Your whrillitized. How they got the best players off every school in the county ? How they got 5 stars & they dont have 5 star numbers.
Oh, and yeah man I graduated from Grimsley and Uk hence my username. (We went to the State champ game my sophomore year in 05 and lost to Rose). You mad at me for being a fan of my Alma mater? But I will never disrespect Page high. We’ve taken too many whoopings from them over the years. You seem to be very angry if anyone talks good about other triad teams that aren’t East Forsyth.
 
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As long as the school has space you can go to any school without issue. East Forsyth was able to take advantage of the perceived (some deserved some not) dysfunction at other schools and capitalized off of it.

We have zones as well, but that’s just fore default schools.
Close.

Students can transfer into any school, regardless of space. If the initial request is rejected, their parents just have to complain to Central Office or the school board and the student will get a waiver. WF is incredibly overcrowded and it's not in zone kids. It's basically Parkland West Campus now.
 
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You Seen what #8 did to Noah Rogers when East Played Them 0 catches.... open Enrollment ,Its no more open enrollment at East Forsyth anymore , But look at GreensBoro High School look at there roster and tell me whos really in district . Stop DICK RIDING,GreensBoro High School started winnin g how long ago when Trav got there. Your whrillitized. How they got the best players off every school in the county ? How they got 5 stars & they dont have 5 star numbers.
You keep referring to Grimsley as Greensboro High School, Sir, but Greensboro Senior High School has been Grimsley High School since 1962. Matter of fact, up until the mid 70's, Grimsley's basketball jerseys said SENIOR on the front. Page opened in 1958 and Smith opened in 1963. Dudley opened in 1929.
P.S. I had to laugh at your phrase, " Whirilltized " Good work, Sir.
 
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The thing about the choice transfer and then I will stop is this. When I was at Parkland we did turn it around a little bit but we were never ever going to be able to give the kids what East, Reagan, West , or even Tabor could give them as far a equipment and facilities ect. Plus the support at those places were so much more than we had at Parkland. Now did the parents at Parkland help out yes did they care yes but it was nothing like what goes on at the schools I mentioned. Lastly when you have Choice transfer its not just athletes a school loses , its PTA, Booster club parents, its $$$$$, its Band/cheer parents, a fractured community all of that. So the coaches at places like Carver, North, Parkland have a bigger gap to overcome
Just my 2 cents, but I think school choice is a crock. If you live in the Carver district, then you go to Carver, end of story. If a kid has an aunt that lives in the East Forsyth district and he wants to live with her to go to East, then fine. But otherwise, he goes to Carver.

Also, I wonder if it hurts Parkland and RJR some not having on campus home stadiums? Deaton Thompson is nice enough for high school ball. But I would also think it is not ideal when the kids have to take a bus to play a "home" game.
 
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Just my 2 cents, but I think school choice is a crock. If you live in the Carver district, then you go to Carver, end of story. If a kid has an aunt that lives in the East Forsyth district and he wants to live with her to go to East, then fine. But otherwise, he goes to Carver.

Also, I wonder if it hurts Parkland and RJR some not having on campus home stadiums? Deaton Thompson is nice enough for high school ball. But I would also think it is not ideal when the kids have to take a bus to play a "home" game.
Same deal with HP Andrews and HP Central, they travel to play home games at AJ Simeon stadium.

But yeah, I agree the open enrollment thing was WSFCS's way of staying competitive, and it clearly helps schools like Tabor and EF. But it keeps the bottom feeders from ever being good/great again, and crushes those schools and their respective communities, enrollment numbers have been down for a while now. Its hard to see programs like Parkland, N Forsyth, Carver, RJ Reynolds, etc. ever being good again. Most of the talent will just leave every couple of years. Funny how all of a sudden all the schools I mentioned are labeled as "Magnet" schools now, they had to save them somehow.
 

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You keep referring to Grimsley as Greensboro High School, Sir, but Greensboro Senior High School has been Grimsley High School since 1962. Matter of fact, up until the mid 70's, Grimsley's basketball jerseys said SENIOR on the front. Page opened in 1958 and Smith opened in 1963. Dudley opened in 1929.
P.S. I had to laugh at your phrase, " Whirilltized " Good work, Sir.
Man... Im just up here having fun on this thread 😂
 

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You're closer to Richmond, but finding a team is the larger problem imo.
I agree. Highland Springs has scheduled out of state teams for a couple of years now. But, the other teams in the Richmond area, aren't doing that at all. They're content staying within the bounds of their region, unless playing in state playoffs.
 
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Wow I didn’t realize that East doesn’t schedule the top Charlotte schools or any team out of state.
They've played Charlotte teams in the playoffs. I went back to 2012 and looked. EF is 6-6 against Charlotte teams. In this day and age, the high school game is changed. More and more schools are scheduling out of state teams. For the most part, the idea, regarding athletics, of a neighborhood school is disappearing. For example, in the state of Florida, the whole state has open enrollment for the purposes of athletics. This is my 60th season of following high school ball and the changes over time have been pretty dramatic. As long as coach Willert is at East, open enrollment will work in their favor. They'll attract top athletes. That's what happened with Mallard Creek, when Palmieri was their coach. It's what happened at Dutch Fork with coach Knotts. Before his arrival, Dutch Fork was usually having a a losing record or break even record at best. That's how the Mater Deis and St. John Boscos of the world stay on top nationally...recruiting and playing top competition. The high school game has changed. It's the lay of the land now. Come playoff time, it doesn't help East that they haven't played some tough teams out of region or state. How much, if at all, it hurts them is still left to be seen. For example, this season, EF is rolling every week against their regular season schedule. But, it'll get tougher and tougher each week in the playoffs...especially in the West region. This is where a good coach, like Willert comes into play. How will the team handle it when they're not rolling in a game like in the regular season? I personally think they'll do fine. Do I think they'll move to a state title? I don't know. No one knows. Too many strange things happen with the football, with the amount of football left to be played.
 
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They've played Charlotte teams in the playoffs. I went back to 2012 and looked. EF is 6-6 against Charlotte teams. In this day and age, the high school game is changed. More and more schools are scheduling out of state teams. For the most part, the idea, regarding athletics, of a neighborhood school is disappearing. For example, in the state of Florida, the whole state has open enrollment for the purposes of athletics. This is my 60th season of following high school ball and the changes over time have been pretty dramatic. As long as coach Willert is at East, open enrollment will work in their favor. They'll attract top athletes. That's what happened with Mallard Creek, when Palmieri was their coach. It's what happened at Dutch Fork with coach Knotts. Before his arrival, Dutch Fork was usually having a a losing record or break even record at best. That's how the Mater Deis and St. John Boscos of the world stay on top nationally...recruiting and playing top competition. The high school game has changed. It's the lay of the land now. Come playoff time, it doesn't help East that they haven't played some tough teams out of region or state. How much, if at all, it hurts them is still left to be seen. For example, this season, EF is rolling every week against their regular season schedule. But, it'll get tougher and tougher each week in the playoffs...especially in the West region. This is where a good coach, like Willert comes into play. How will the team handle it when they're not rolling in a game like in the regular season? I personally think they'll do fine. Do I think they'll move to a state title? I don't know. No one knows. Too many strange things happen with the football, with the amount of football left to be played.
Mallard Creek's district is just loaded with talent, and Palmieri slowly built his program with a tenured staff that stuck around to help him build. Creek attracted 3 to 4 studs every year, but his base is what made the program. He was also big on developing his JV players. Whose spot were these top athletes going to take at MC? Tommy Knotts is just hands down one of the greatest High School Football coaches ever. As he has said before, he can win anywhere. Dutch Fork teams are not loaded with star studded talent. There is absolutely no team in NC, that comes close to the resources and loaded squads like the Mater Dei's and St. John Bosco's of the world. Comparing them with any team in NC, is a joke. They're All-Star teams. As is Buford, GA. It would take an entire conference to put together a team like those squads.
 
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They've played Charlotte teams in the playoffs. I went back to 2012 and looked. EF is 6-6 against Charlotte teams. In this day and age, the high school game is changed. More and more schools are scheduling out of state teams. For the most part, the idea, regarding athletics, of a neighborhood school is disappearing. For example, in the state of Florida, the whole state has open enrollment for the purposes of athletics. This is my 60th season of following high school ball and the changes over time have been pretty dramatic. As long as coach Willert is at East, open enrollment will work in their favor. They'll attract top athletes. That's what happened with Mallard Creek, when Palmieri was their coach. It's what happened at Dutch Fork with coach Knotts. Before his arrival, Dutch Fork was usually having a a losing record or break even record at best. That's how the Mater Deis and St. John Boscos of the world stay on top nationally...recruiting and playing top competition. The high school game has changed. It's the lay of the land now. Come playoff time, it doesn't help East that they haven't played some tough teams out of region or state. How much, if at all, it hurts them is still left to be seen. For example, this season, EF is rolling every week against their regular season schedule. But, it'll get tougher and tougher each week in the playoffs...especially in the West region. This is where a good coach, like Willert comes into play. How will the team handle it when they're not rolling in a game like in the regular season? I personally think they'll do fine. Do I think they'll move to a state title? I don't know. No one knows. Too many strange things happen with the football, with the amount of football left to be played.
Charlotte has never had true open enrollment, and you have to sit 365 if you leave a magnet and go to another school that's not your home school that has space or another magnet school. Nothing like Forsyth county. Charlotte has zones, and most of the top football schools are non-magnets, and classified as full so the only way you can attend is by moving into their district. Thus all the residency issues.

Great coaching is key. HS football has drastically changed. Its more regional.
 
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To be fair I criticized Butler in the past for not really scheduling out of state as much as they should. They did make up for it by scheduling Page, Tabor, Richmond County and there were years when Mallard Creek couldn’t find anyone in the city/state to play them so Butler would play them. I would love to see East Forsyth against a Mallard Creek or Butler.
Butler learned last year going to DC, unless it is a bordering state it doesn't help your RPI.
 
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Butler learned last year going to DC, unless it is a bordering state it doesn't help your RPI.
I like that as well, East Forsyth does and has played the Raleigh area teams pretty regularly but it would make for great early game TV matchups(MY48) with the Charlotte area.

Detriot Lions starting noseguard Alim Mcneil was a RB when East played them in a home & away series and now they've been playing Rolesville; I would guess that's because the Charlotte teams will meet East Forsyth in the western playoffs and Willert doesn't see any reason to schedule them so early.