Freeh Report on Penn State released...
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That will be interesting to hear some of the details.<div>
</div><div>And Jackie left football to the Joe Paternos of the world ....</div>
</div><div>And Jackie left football to the Joe Paternos of the world ....</div>
Am I the only one that couldn't care less about football and whether they play football at PSU in the future. Who gives a ****.
Honestly, my thought is that anyone that participated in covering up this crap needs to spend a significant amount of time in prison. I don't want fine or suspended sentences, I want people in prison.
Whether PSU plays football is pretty irrelevant to me.
Honestly, my thought is that anyone that participated in covering up this crap needs to spend a significant amount of time in prison. I don't want fine or suspended sentences, I want people in prison.
Whether PSU plays football is pretty irrelevant to me.
"Paterno, in a letter he had prepared but was not published before his death, asserted that whatever the failings in the Sandusky affair — his or the university’s — it did not constitute a “football scandal.”
And his *** is lucky he died so he didnt have to go thru the repercussions
And his *** is lucky he died so he didnt have to go thru the repercussions
Say this comes out when it should have. They would have lost recruits over it just as they are now.
has stated numerous times that an atmosphere was created where the football team and coaches felt as though they had to answer to no one. He's stated that there was a lack of oversight on the football team in general. When the FBI conducts an investigation and finds there was a lack of institutional control over Paterno and the football team, I don't see how the NCAA could come to any other conclusion.
No it wasn't a football scandal. It was an entire athletic administration scandal along with other university administration. There needs to be jail time for those involved, and sanctions levied aginst the entire athletic department. As punishment for JoePa since he's not around anymore...tear down his statue, and remove his name from the NCAA record books. It appears he was more concerned about records and his name than the welfare of 10 year old kids.Coach34 said:
Coach34 said:
The full context...
He's ranting like this guy...
and parades like he **** smells like roses. He defense Penn State literally to his death. He says not even anal rape of children carries more gravity than Penn State football. And his leadership all the way to the very highest levels agreed with him!!!!
Penn State has proven beyond the shadow of any doubt that they lack leadership and responsibility to run a football program. Penn State football deserves death. Period. End of story. No debate.
Without question there should be several prison sentences handed down. Hell, dig Paterno's *** out of the ground and put him in jail too. As far as the NCAA, how is this not a blatant example of "lack of institutional control?" Clearly, the ******** of the football department did what they wanted and no one could stop em.
TV coverage at Penn State student center switched from Freeh coverage to Public Access TV. The Penn State Nittany Ostriches.
all this would still be going on. It just makes you want to puke and it is inexplicable how those people could have been so apathetic to children who were being raped.
I personally think the NCAA would rather lop off its own arm than ever issue the death penalty again, but it's honestly irrelevant what happens regarding football.
What matters is that if there's anyone still alive that's in any way responsible for letting this happen, they go to jail for a very, very long time. I would say that I'd even be pro-death penalty on this one, but death is too good for most of the scumbags involved.
What matters is that if there's anyone still alive that's in any way responsible for letting this happen, they go to jail for a very, very long time. I would say that I'd even be pro-death penalty on this one, but death is too good for most of the scumbags involved.
When you spend 62 years on the coaching staff at one university, I understand that it's inevitable that you're going to develop a pretty serious attachment. However, this is ridiculous and sickening. Til the day he died, he was more concerned with the welfare of a football program than human beings. His love of a goddamn game destroyed the lives of many people while at the very least, scarring many others.
Anything other than wiping his name, records, and image from the face of this earth is unacceptable to me.
Anything other than wiping his name, records, and image from the face of this earth is unacceptable to me.
What People Not Blinded By Hero Worship Could’ve Already Told You:
“Taking into account the available witness statements and evidence, it
is more reasonable to conclude that, in order to avoid the consequences
of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at Penn State University –
Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley – repeatedly concealed
critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse from the authorities,
the Board of Trustees, Penn State community, and the public at large.
Although concern to treat the child abuser humanely was expressly
stated, no such sentiments were ever expressed by them for Sandusky’s
victims.”</p>
Joe Paterno Didn’t Want To Interrupt People’s Weekend By Reporting Child Rape:
“We also know that he delayed reporting Sandusky’s sexual conduct
because Mr. Paterno did not “want to interfere” with people’s weekend.
To his credit, Mr. Paterno stated on November 9, 2011, ‘With the benefit
of hindsight, I wish I had done more.’”</p>
And The Nail In The Coffin
“The evidence shows that these four men also knew about a 1998 criminal
investigation of Sandusky relating to suspected sexual misconduct with a
young boy ina Penn State football locker room shower. Again, they
showed no concern about that victim. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno
was made aware of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, followed it
closely, but failed to take any action, even though Sandusky had been a
key member of his coaching staff for almost 30 years, and had an office
juststeps away from Mr. Paterno’s. At the very least, Mr. Paterno could
have alerted the entire football staff, in order to prevent Sandusky
from bringing another child into the Lasch Building.”</p>
“Taking into account the available witness statements and evidence, it
is more reasonable to conclude that, in order to avoid the consequences
of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at Penn State University –
Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley – repeatedly concealed
critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse from the authorities,
the Board of Trustees, Penn State community, and the public at large.
Although concern to treat the child abuser humanely was expressly
stated, no such sentiments were ever expressed by them for Sandusky’s
victims.”</p>
Joe Paterno Didn’t Want To Interrupt People’s Weekend By Reporting Child Rape:
“We also know that he delayed reporting Sandusky’s sexual conduct
because Mr. Paterno did not “want to interfere” with people’s weekend.
To his credit, Mr. Paterno stated on November 9, 2011, ‘With the benefit
of hindsight, I wish I had done more.’”</p>
And The Nail In The Coffin
“The evidence shows that these four men also knew about a 1998 criminal
investigation of Sandusky relating to suspected sexual misconduct with a
young boy ina Penn State football locker room shower. Again, they
showed no concern about that victim. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno
was made aware of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, followed it
closely, but failed to take any action, even though Sandusky had been a
key member of his coaching staff for almost 30 years, and had an office
juststeps away from Mr. Paterno’s. At the very least, Mr. Paterno could
have alerted the entire football staff, in order to prevent Sandusky
from bringing another child into the Lasch Building.”</p>
Who wants to bet that they worst the NCAA will do over this cover up at PSU is give UT-Martin three years probation?
Have u seen their commit list? All of this is coming out and they have a list of highly rated recruits including the top rated tight end in the country committed. What are these freaking coaches selling for them to commit to that place?
spanier and schultz are awaiting trial for perjury and potentially the covering up of a crime. the ex-penn st president was fired when the sandusky news first broke and he very well may face charges before it's all said and done. that leaves really on joe pa, who died back in january. so not sure who else you wanna see go to jail.
Saw this on a Joe Schad Tweet. This expert attorney is Micheal Buckner and he said this after reading the Freeh Report
probably the fact that no one that was on the staff with sandusky or conspired in the cover up of sandusky has anything to do with penn st anymore?WalkTheDawg said:
I'm going to take an unpopular position and say the NCAA should do nothing.<div>
</div><div>The NCAA exists to promote fair play and competition among its member schools. NCAA regulations exist to prevent any school from gaining a "unfair" advantage over other schools in the recruitment of amateur student-athletes.The Sandusky atrocities are WAY outside its scope and jurisdiction.</div><div>
</div><div>Let the proper legal system handle this case. The individuals responsible will be held to account. Sandusky already has. Those involved in the cover-up are next.</div><div>
</div><div>Everyone wants to see Penn State suffer for what happened. I won't argue it shouldn't. I wouldn't shed a tear for Penn State football if it was permanently disbanded. I just think this is outside the scope of the purpose of the NCAA. The NCAA's jurisdiction is amateurism and athletics. Not criminal acts like these.</div>
</div><div>The NCAA exists to promote fair play and competition among its member schools. NCAA regulations exist to prevent any school from gaining a "unfair" advantage over other schools in the recruitment of amateur student-athletes.The Sandusky atrocities are WAY outside its scope and jurisdiction.</div><div>
</div><div>Let the proper legal system handle this case. The individuals responsible will be held to account. Sandusky already has. Those involved in the cover-up are next.</div><div>
</div><div>Everyone wants to see Penn State suffer for what happened. I won't argue it shouldn't. I wouldn't shed a tear for Penn State football if it was permanently disbanded. I just think this is outside the scope of the purpose of the NCAA. The NCAA's jurisdiction is amateurism and athletics. Not criminal acts like these.</div>
deerhntr and i and a couple of others have maintained this position on here, and we've been accused of being pedophile apologists, so get ready to take it on the chinMSU CS 2004 said:
Begging the question = presuming some facts, then draw conclusions based on those "facts" which aren't facts at all.
You've assumed the NCAA's purpose and made a perfectly rational conclusion based based on that presumption.
The problem is your assumption is wrong. The NCAA's purpose isn't limited to "fair play". It goes well beyond that and was explained in the NCAA's letter to PSU which was posted here a few times.
You've assumed the NCAA's purpose and made a perfectly rational conclusion based based on that presumption.
The problem is your assumption is wrong. The NCAA's purpose isn't limited to "fair play". It goes well beyond that and was explained in the NCAA's letter to PSU which was posted here a few times.
is that the NCAA launch a full blown 2 or 3year investigation into every single thing that has happened in the athletic department, meaning ever team they have playing sports. They should follow every dollar spent, every recruit who was ever on a list whether or not they ended up at PSU, and contact anyone and everyone remotely connected to the AD. Their witch hunt should be so gigantic that they need an entire floor in a campus building for all of the people doing the investigation. I am 100% certain that if JoePa had this much power over senior officials that there is much more to this story from an athletics standpoint. When the investigation crew shows up it should look like the scene from Mississippi Burning when all of the FBI agents storm the town and take over the theatre.
For me, if any of you think football should be shut down for lack of institutional control, then the only way I agree is if they shut down the entire world of athletics at the university. All of it. This was bigger than Penn State football and if you think the NCAA needs to step in then they should go to the top. Personally, I would rather they dig up every dirty secret that they actually have jurisdiction over and then drop them from the face of the planet. If they find nothing, then at least they have endured a full cavity search for so long.
For me, if any of you think football should be shut down for lack of institutional control, then the only way I agree is if they shut down the entire world of athletics at the university. All of it. This was bigger than Penn State football and if you think the NCAA needs to step in then they should go to the top. Personally, I would rather they dig up every dirty secret that they actually have jurisdiction over and then drop them from the face of the planet. If they find nothing, then at least they have endured a full cavity search for so long.
and it blinds people as to what really needs to be done. This shows a complete failure of University Leadership way beyond the scope of athletics. The fact that it was an employee of the athletic department doesn't need to blind everyone into thinking the NCAA is who should be bringing down the sword. 17 the football program. Who cares. That whole university needs to be crippled.