Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

[hotdigitydog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

prolly taken the job for the endorsement money and some coupons to Corky's BBQ.....I've talked to several Rebs in the last few days and most I know are very disappointed........I mean, here you have a school of elitists talking about how much money they have and the best you can do is Hugh Freeze? What's next, Bobby Hall for offensive coordinator? Plus, this is not a hire that should've consumed the considerable resources of asearch group/committe headed by Woody Allen, I meanAwche!Freeze could've been hired the day after it was announced Nutt was not coming back.........Yes, from all accounts he's a good recruiter but so was"O" and look where thatgot them........I think this is a good day for the dogsand in 3 years, Ole Miss will be right back doing this very same thing again........Freeze better be one helluva coach to get them outta the **** hole that program is in.......I don't see it happening............

 

[hotdigitydog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

prolly taken the job for the endorsement money and some coupons to Corky's BBQ.....I've talked to several Rebs in the last few days and most I know are very disappointed........I mean, here you have a school of elitists talking about how much money they have and the best you can do is Hugh Freeze? What's next, Bobby Hall for offensive coordinator? Plus, this is not a hire that should've consumed the considerable resources of asearch group/committe headed by Woody Allen, I meanAwche!Freeze could've been hired the day after it was announced Nutt was not coming back.........Yes, from all accounts he's a good recruiter but so was"O" and look where thatgot them........I think this is a good day for the dogsand in 3 years, Ole Miss will be right back doing this very same thing again........Freeze better be one helluva coach to get them outta the **** hole that program is in.......I don't see it happening............

 

[was21]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[AssEndDawg]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

are openly mocking their own school at this point. No one can seem to understand how they put this committee together, had a head start, and ended up with Freeze.

 

[Shmuley]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

refused to talk about the hire. Muttered "It's total ********" and stormed out of my office.

I could not contain my laughter.

I'll ask him about it again in a couple of weeks.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

That goes with any hire.

The only homerun hire I've seen in a long while was the Saban hire at Alabama. Petrino at Arkansas was close. Normally those that claim a homerun hire don't have a clue and are often wrong, and often the hires that are most criticized turn out like champs. Most hires you can poke holes in and raise questions about.

This is the same problem a lot of our fans have had. They wanted to win the media or win a press conference with a name. You don't win anything the day you hire a coach. People seem to forget that.

 

[dawgstudent]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

and I'm not saying if we hired a no-name coach, I wouldn't be spinning either.

 

[aTotal360]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[thunderclap]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[RebelBruiser]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

When we eliminated Hud, it was Freeze.

I was a little hesitant on Freeze at first, but as the season progressed, and by the time we had made the move on Nutt, I had come around and he had jumped to the top of my list with Hudspeth.

Those are the types of guys our programs need.

Call it spin if you want, but you can probably find some of my posts about it. I liked Leach too, but I knew he wasn't going to be hired, and his lack of connection to this region actually pushed him behind the other two for me.

Our schools don't win by making "popular" hires. We win by making the right hire. Say it's BS if you want, but he was at the top for me, fit the criteria I wanted. The only thing he didn't have was the deep resume, same with Hudspeth, but that doesn't bother me. We aren't in position to be picky about that.

ETA: By the way, it's funny to me that Hudspeth could be the top of so many MSU fans' list, yet Freeze can be considered a joke of a hire. Are they really all that different in terms of resume, attitude, ability, etc.? I see them roughly as equals, and I still contend that I'd rather MSU have Mullen than Hudspeth. I hope there isn't any juice to this PSU rumor, because I feel confident Hud will be your guy.

As an aside, I don't expect any objectivity from most of your fans. They're going to make fun of the Freeze hire just like we did with Mullen. That's the way it goes. We'll all know soon enough.

 

[was21]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[Cousin Jeffrey]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[Incognegro]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

I was more interested to see what would you say had the committee hired Smart, but I do remember you saying Freeze was at the top of your list. As far as Freeze isconcerned... for the time being it seems like they went in the right direction with the hire. Whether it proves to be the right move remains to be seen.

 

[olemissbydamn]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Probably right about him spinning any hire, but is Freeze a "no-name" coach. What qualifies one as a "no-name" coach?

I remember quite a few here being really happy when yall pulled a former NFL OC as your coach after Jackie.

If Mullen were to leave and take the PSU job, would you be disappointed with Hud? Outside of here, he certainly isn't a name coach.

Leach would have been my first choice, but considering the circumstances, I'm happy with this hire. I'll judge him by his results in the future, not by whether folks on a message board think he's a "name coach". I've seen lots of name coaches fail (cough...nutter) and I've seen plenty of lesser knowns become great at larger schools.

 

[hometowndawg]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

 

[was21]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[EAVdog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Hearing him describe how long it'll take to fill out all the NCAA paperwork and get a staff together was tough. Sounds like he'll have about a week and a half left to make in-home visits and without a full staff. He needed to hit the ground running and he's stuck doing paper work and trying to assemble a staff. Then during the dead period he's got to fill out his staff plus get up to speed with the current roster. The SEC is not the place to be playing catchup.

Hud vs Freeze. Hud already knows the existing staff, players, offense, where the offices are, where to get the best coffee in town, which bathroom is the best place to take a deuce, etc... He could walk in tomorrow and barring a few assistant coaches transitioning out we'd be back in business in a day. I'm assuming between what staff would stay in Starkville and which staff he'd bring in a complete staff would just be about weeding out who you didn't want. That's huge. Plus Hud has more in-state connections and more coaching experience.

I don't think Freeze will be bad, but he's going to need some time. His 'basketball on grass' Offense is a risky proposition in the SEC. He's going to need to have one hell of a Defense. Not sure if Wommack is going to cut it in that department.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Had it been Fedora, or had it been Smart, I would've been upset about it, and I would've let you know that.

Smart was always not even on my list, much less on my C list. From my understanding, I don't even think he made the cut with this committee, which is refreshing to know.

Fedora would've been better than Smart, but would've been underwhelming too. I even told people I would've been hesitant about the idea of Dungy, though most people didn't buy that. I was serious about that. Transitioning from NFL to college is risky at best.

For once we set out a list of qualities that I think are important for this job, and we stuck to finding those qualities in a head coach, regardless of the name. That's defined as doing it right with a search. Will it work out? We will find out, but we did this one the right way, rather than just stabbing at a recognizable name or making the hire that the media wants us to make, as has happened in the past.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

We couldn't pull the trigger on the guy weeks ago, even if they knew it.

I know for a fact they were conducting interviews last weekend for the first time, because most coaches weren't available before that. They spent the 2 weeks before that culling their own list through the search firm and compiling a list of interviews to give. Then they conducted the interviews.

I feel like they probably had the decision early last week, but they couldn't sign him up and make the deal until this weekend, because you don't hire coaches when their regular season is still not complete.

 

[patdog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

I'm not in favor of hiring Hudspeth if Mullen leaves, but he's got a better resume than Freeze. I can't remember the last time an SEC coach had so little college experience, and even less at the BCS level. Y'all are taking a huge risk with this hire, and it's one you can't afford not to be a good one. It may work out fine, but I wouldn't bet on it. Here are their resumes:

Hudspeth:
</p><table style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5em; WIDTH: 22em; FONT-SIZE: 88%" class="infobox vcard"><tbody><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgray" colspan="2">Coaching career (HC unless noted)</th></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><span class="nowrap">1992–1993
1994–1995
1996–1997
1998
1999–2000
2001
2002–2008
2009–2010
2011–present</span></th><td><span class="nowrap">Central Arkansas (GA)
Nicholls State (WR/TE/RB)
Winston Academy
Central Arkansas (DB)
Delta State (OC)
Navy (OC)
North Alabama
Mississippi State (WR)
Louisiana–Lafayette</span></td></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgray" colspan="2">Head coaching record</th></tr><tr><th>Overall</th><td>74–25 (college)
25–1 (high school)</td></tr><tr><th>Tournaments</th><td>8–4 (NCAA D-II playoffs)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Freeze:
<table style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5em; WIDTH: 22em; FONT-SIZE: 88%" class="infobox vcard"><tbody><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgray" colspan="2">Coaching career (HC unless noted)</th></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><span class="nowrap">1992–1994
1995–2004
2006–2007
2008–2009
2010
2011
2012-present</span></th><td><span class="nowrap">Briarcrest HS (TN) (OC/DB)
Briarcrest HS (TN)
Mississippi (TE/RC)
Lambuth
Arkansas State (OC)
Arkansas State
Mississippi</span></td></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgray" colspan="2">Administrative career (AD unless noted)</th></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">2005
</th><td><span class="nowrap">Mississippi (asst. AD)
</span></td></tr><tr><th style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgray" colspan="2">Head coaching record</th></tr><tr><th>Overall</th><td>30–7 (college)</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[esplanade91]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Probably right about him spinning any hire, but is Freeze a "no-name" coach. What qualifies one as a "no-name" coach?

I remember quite a few here being really happy when yall pulled a former NFL OC as your coach after Jackie.

If Mullen were to leave and take the PSU job, would you be disappointed with Hud? Outside of here, he certainly isn't a name coach.

Leach would have been my first choice, but considering the circumstances, I'm happy with this hire. I'll judge him by his results in the future, not by whether folks on a message board think he's a "name coach". I've seen lots of name coaches fail (cough...nutter) and I've seen plenty of lesser knowns become great at larger schools.

Are you comparing Gene Chizik to Hugh Freeze as a "no-name" coach having success? Which "name" coaches are you actually considering didn't have success? Because Nutt isn't a "name" coach... he was fired from Arkansas for doing the exact same thing he did at Ole Miss. Nice try trying to slip Nutt in with the Sabans and Urban Meyers in the world.

People boo'd Croom in his first year. I was just a little kid and I remember that like it was yesterday, people boo'ing the coach in his first year. That's rough. So how many is "quite a few"?

Take your head of out the sand and admit that you're not all too happy hiring a guy that was a high school girls' basketball coach less than 10 years ago.

 

[patdog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

At least Croom had spent many years as an assistant at Alabama, and in the NFL (including several years as an OC in the NFL). He was one of the top 3 finalists for the Alabama job that wound up going to Shula.

If Mullen were to leave and take the PSU job, would you be disappointed with Hud?

A little bit, yeah. Because I think we can do better. But as I just pointed out to Bruiser, even Hud's resume is light-years ahead of Freeze's. Yeah, he's been successful everywhere he's been (except as an assistant coach), but so has Bobby Hall and I haven't seen his name mentioned. I think some of Hall's teams could have competed against the competition Freeze faced at Lambuth.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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ETA: By the way, it's funny to me that Hudspeth could be the top of so many MSU fans' list, yet Freeze can be considered a joke of a hire. Are they really all that different in terms of resume, attitude, ability, etc.? I see them roughly as equals, and I still contend that I'd rather MSU have Mullen than Hudspeth. I hope there isn't any juice to this PSU rumor, because I feel confident Hud will be your guy.

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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Not to mention, he was the OC for a national championship Delta St. squad, an OC at Navy and WR Coach/Passing game Coordinator at State. I think he has a considerable amount of experience over Freeze.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">And I don't mean to downplay Freeze, he might turn out to be a good hire. I will say that I find it hilarious that some Ole Miss fans think it is acceptable that yall didnt offer Leach. All I can tell you, from an MSU perspective, is that if Leach was at that podium today I would have been in full-on wig mode. </span></font></div>

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

His resume seems to be pretty good, but I can't get the portrayal of him in the movie out of my mind.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

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[HammerOfTheDogs]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

 

[olemissbydamn]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

At least Croom had spent many years as an assistant at Alabama, and in the NFL (including several years as an OC in the NFL). He was one of the top 3 finalists for the Alabama job that wound up going to Shula.

If Mullen were to leave and take the PSU job, would you be disappointed with Hud?

A little bit, yeah. Because I think we can do better. But as I just pointed out to Bruiser, even Hud's resume is light-years ahead of Freeze's. Yeah, he's been successful everywhere he's been (except as an assistant coach), but so has Bobby Hall and I haven't seen his name mentioned. I think some of Hall's teams could have competed against the competition Freeze faced at Lambuth.

What's Freeze's head to head record againt Hud in the same conference at the same coaching position?

Seriously...I'm not being a sheep and spinning this as the world's greatest hire. I wanted Leach, but I didn't get my first wish. I'm saying, considering our terrible circumstances, he is a good fit. Yet you guys bring up Lambuth and HS as if it has anything to do with where he is at now in his career (turning an awful Sun Belt team into a winner).

You think Malzahn, Briles, Chad Morris, or any of the other numbers of coaches that worked their way into a better position by starting at a HS or small college are less of a coach for having done so?

 

[dawgstudent]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

it wouldn't had been as noticeable. The fact the fanbase had these crazy expectations...again...and ended up with Freeze seems like Ole Miss settled on their choice.

Most State fans say from the word go - the good hire would be Hudspeth if Mullen left. It's who we all want - even if we have a search. Freeze appeared to be a lot of Ole Miss people's choice if no one else wanted the job.

 

[olemissbydamn]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Probably right about him spinning any hire, but is Freeze a "no-name" coach. What qualifies one as a "no-name" coach?

I remember quite a few here being really happy when yall pulled a former NFL OC as your coach after Jackie.

If Mullen were to leave and take the PSU job, would you be disappointed with Hud? Outside of here, he certainly isn't a name coach.

Leach would have been my first choice, but considering the circumstances, I'm happy with this hire. I'll judge him by his results in the future, not by whether folks on a message board think he's a "name coach". I've seen lots of name coaches fail (cough...nutter) and I've seen plenty of lesser knowns become great at larger schools.

Are you comparing Gene Chizik to Hugh Freeze as a "no-name" coach having success? Which "name" coaches are you actually considering didn't have success? Because Nutt isn't a "name" coach... he was fired from Arkansas for doing the exact same thing he did at Ole Miss. Nice try trying to slip Nutt in with the Sabans and Urban Meyers in the world.

People boo'd Croom in his first year. I was just a little kid and I remember that like it was yesterday, people boo'ing the coach in his first year. That's rough. So how many is "quite a few"?

Take your head of out the sand and admit that you're not all too happy hiring a guy that was a high school girls' basketball coach less than 10 years ago.

Evidently you are still a little kid.

I never mentioned Chizik.

Nutt was a name coach when OM hired him and most of your rational posters here will say the same.

If you are defining "name coaches" as Saban, Meyer, etc, then there aren't many of them out there including Mullen. More importantly, you proved my point. The term "name coach" is different depending on who you talk to.

People boo'd Croom when he lost. They were fairly happy with him when he was hired. Were there some that were not so happy, yes, but that is the case with any hire. I was posting here then. I wasn't a "little kid". I remember "Maroon is all that matters". I remember the tulane win. Don't revise history on me to fit your silly post.

 

[hotdigitydog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Nt

 

[Foronce]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

so freeze was a coach at briarcrest where Oher came from ...who was adopted by ole miss boosters

freeze was given a job as te coach on Ole Miss staff ...now he is the head football coach of The school up north

and this stinks of Chiziks hire... get someone in that will allow the booster to get the talent.
I smell ncaa investigation in less than 2 years...

 

[bryanwxbulldog]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Splitting hairs here. I don't claim to be a Red Wolves fan, but I do live in the Jonesboro area. Lots of ASU fans (and players) are upset that Freeze jumped ship before the bowl game--the first one in 6 years.<div>
</div><div>What could possiblly be going on at The Tundra Up North that's so important? Early start on the 'crootin trail? I can empathize with those Red Wolves. Kinda messed up.</div><div>
</div><div>But props, RB, on predicting the new head coach. I had my suspicions that he would bolt for the door.</div>

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

and he was bringing Melvin with him.

 

[cowbell9]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

...."regardless of the baggage,he brings us alot of publicity and is a pro at social media"

 

[CuffBagwell]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Ole Miss hiring Dave Wommack as Defensive Coordinator is the equivalent of you guys bringing in Carl Torbush. Hopefully, we'll eventually find our own version of Diaz, who seems like a great coach and probably would be an significant upgrade over Mullen in recruiting prowess and IQ.

I thought Butch Davis should have gotten a closer look. Closest thing to Jackie Sherrill in this era. But he didn't clearly wasn't going to work with the group of deacons calling the shots up in Oxford.

You may be right it's a single, but I'll take that over Nutt, who had started striking out looking on three pitches.

 

[prettygooddawg]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

What established and seasoned Veteran coach would want to risk their image in tryng to build the Bears back to competeing with a SEC all-WORLD Western Division? Money is not everything, but Freeze could, with blind luck just might get to the level of MSU who, seems satisified with 6-6 season [with Egg Bowl victory of course].

 

[RebelBruiser]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

Coaches don't leave during the regular season. They do often leave between the regular season and bowl games. In fact, they usually don't stay for the bowl games.

It's not messed up in any way. That's the way it works, and yes you leave before the bowl to get recruiting started.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Freeze's hire is DEFINITELY not a home run hire.....More like a sinlge IMO......Hell, he would've

so freeze was a coach at briarcrest where Oher came from ...who was adopted by ole miss boosters

freeze was given a job as te coach on Ole Miss staff ...now he is the head football coach of The school up north

and this stinks of Chiziks hire... get someone in that will allow the booster to get the talent.
I smell ncaa investigation in less than 2 years...

Freeze has already been the subject of several NCAA investigations, including recruitment of Oher and was found guilty of NCAA violations for recruiting Memphis high school players before he was actually a coach with the Bears.