From a perception and momentum standpoint, this staff can't afford to lose Kailo

[shotgunDawg]

Look, right now we are in a dog fight with Ole Miss and everyone knows it. They are pulling recruits from different areas of the country and we have made the State of MS a priority. No matter how good some of you think Kailo Moore is, and no matter how big of a loss it may actually be to our recruiting class, from a perception and momentum standpoint, our staff has to get their *** in gear and win this battle.

Kailo, isn't gone. Kailo is still a MSU commit and we need to stalemate OM's current momentum right where it is now. You cannot say you are making Mississippi a priority and winning the state when you lose Connor and Moore in the same class. Futhermore, we lost CJ and Ward. We are not controlling the state of MS in recruiting if OM gets the top player in the state every year.

No matter how good Mullen actually thinks Kailo is, he needs this one to hang his hat on.

My question is: Why aren't MSU fans putting pressure on Kailo to fullfill his commitment?

Why isn't the MSU media doing the same as Johnson and Yancy?

If this staff doesn't step up right now and sell the **** out of 3 straight bowl games and an 8 win season, then this program is will start to crumble. You can't afford to consistently lose battles for big time in-state players and expect to build a program. If they can't sell MSU right now, then when will they ever?

Kailo, you are bulldog

 

[Railin Jemmye]

The million dollar MSU question.....

My question is: Why aren't MSU fans putting pressure on Kailo to fullfill his commitment?

Why isn't the MSU media doing the same as Johnson and Yancy?

I'd like to know the answer myself. Where is Gene and Rosebowl. Trying to suck off Devinner?

I understand our culture is to be the People's University and not walk around all elite, but damn, MSU fans should really have our chests puffed out regarding our football program right now. It's the best it's been in a long time.

Honestly, I really think deep down our fans just think we can't hack it. Insecurity.

 

[J-Dawg]

Honestly, I really think deep down our fans just think we can't hack it. Insecurity.

Yep. Our team and fanbase has come a long way in a few years, but just like the team, the fans have a long way to go too. We lack that winning mindset. Who cares if it makes us look stupid when we lose. We can't always sit back and say "Oh, gee-golly, I hope we win this game so people don't pick at me. I sure hope we don't lose!"

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Haha, couldn't have said it better myself. But it's damn sure true, I catch myself doing it all the time.

 

[Coach34]

Look, right now we are in a dog fight with Ole Miss and everyone knows it. They are pulling recruits from different areas of the country and we have made the State of MS a priority. No matter how good some of you think Kailo Moore is, and no matter how big of a loss it may actually be to our recruiting class, from a perception and momentum standpoint, our staff has to get their *** in gear and win this battle. - I disagree. We need good players period. The Bears win the press conference every Febuary.

Kailo, isn't gone. Kailo is still a MSU commit and we need to stalemate OM's current momentum right where it is now. You cannot say you are making Mississippi a priority and winning the state when you lose Connor and Moore in the same class. Futhermore, we lost CJ and Ward. We are not controlling the state of MS in recruiting if OM gets the top player in the state every year.- They lost Quay to us, not to mention PJ Jones and the other DE recruit they had supposedly all sewn up. Plus remind me- didnt we sign 6 or 7 of the C-L Top 10 last year????

No matter how good Mullen actually thinks Kailo is, he needs this one to hang his hat on.- no. Shumpert is a much bigger need and a better football player imo

My question is: Why aren't MSU fans putting pressure on Kailo to fullfill his commitment?- Too many of our fans indeed are insecure and suffer from Little Brother Syndrome. It's getting better, but we got a long way to go.

Why isn't the MSU media doing the same as Johnson and Yancy?- but our guys think they are supposed to be non-biased and report with integrity for some reason.

If this staff doesn't step up right now and sell the **** out of 3 straight bowl games and an 8 win season, then this program is will start to crumble. You can't afford to consistently lose battles for big time in-state players and expect to build a program. If they can't sell MSU right now, then when will they ever?- staff needs to step up- arent we in the top 20 in Scout? Top 25 on the other sites? Looks like we are doing a bang-up job recruiting right now. This could be out highest rated class yet. How is that not stepping up?

Kailo, you are bulldog

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[shotgunDawg]

OM punched us in the mouth during the Egg Bowl. No matter what they do, if we keep Kailo, we land a formidable class and keep our dignity. Our staff and fans need to stop pouting, complaining, and woopty doo attitude and bow the hell up RIGHT NOW and punch their *** right back in the mouth

 

[shotgunDawg]

Stop ruining my recruiting pep talk! Lol

 

[InaccuratePredictionsDawg]

From a reality-based standpoint, we have to sign more QB's...

...I keep reading Sandberg might opt for pro baseball. That would put us up **** creek 100 times worse than losing Moore. We've got RB depth on the roster that is going to be here a while. Yet we've got 2 freakin' QB's on the roster & a commit who might not even make it to campus. What if Russell gets hurt next year, then Dak gets hurt? Who will play QB if Sandberg doesn't sign? Which walk-on will do the honors? You can meltdown about Moore. Meanwhile, I'll be melting down over this ridiculous QB scenario.

 

[DAWG61]

I 17ing hate recruiting season. This same paranoid ******** for 2 straight months now. We have like 6 RB's. It'll be great if Moore sticks with us but it's no "our pets heads our falling off" situation if he doesn't.

 

[121Josey]

No matter how good some of you think Kailo Moore is, and no matter how big of a loss it may actually be to our recruiting class, from a perception and momentum standpoint, our staff has to get their *** in gear and win this battle.

You cannot say you are making Mississippi a priority and winning the state when you lose Connor and Moore in the same class.

We are not controlling the state of MS in recruiting if OM gets the top player in the state every year.

No matter how good Mullen actually thinks Kailo is, he needs this one to hang his hat on.

Wrong on all points listed above. It's early in the post-season recruiting. Take a chill pill.

I'm glad that Moore is committed to us and all, but he's not more important than Shumpert. Shumpert can play offense or defense. Why do you think Mullen started with Shumpert?

We have other running backs who could get the job done - maybe not up to Moore's ability - but it's not catastrophic if he leaves. What is catastrophic is not signing a venerable quarterback or a JUCO receiver.

 

[FlabLoser]

No matter how good Mullen actually thinks Kailo is, he needs this one to hang his hat on.

Agree the staff needs to step up recruiting.

But your statement speaks volumes about how flawed your argument is. You are begging the question that Mullen is out to win recruiting titles in spite of how talented or untalented the players actually are. That assumption completely false, which makes alarmist post irrelevant.

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

My question is: Why aren't MSU fans putting pressure on Kailo to fullfill his commitment?

What kind of "pressure" can fans put on a recruit that would trump anything the staff/recruiter has already played? Other than $$$$?

 

[J-Dawg]

Well put. Heck, our class is still pretty good even if you take Kailo out of the equation. Your point remains, though.

 

[engie]

Look, right now we are in a dog fight with Ole Miss and everyone knows it. They are pulling recruits from different areas of the country

Common misconception is that we aren't looking to do the same.

Visitors in the past month:
4* Elijah Daniel - Indiana
5* Jalen Ramsey - Tennessee
4* Corey Smith - Ohio
4* Za'Darius Smith - Alabama
5* MacKenzie Alexander - Florida
4* Carroll Washington - California
4* Josh Dobbs - Georgia
4* Tommy Sanders - Kansas
3* Jeremey Chappelle - Texas
3* Javess Blue - Kansas
3* Sunny Odogwu - Virginia

With more to come...

 

[FISHDAWG]

I can't believe you responded to this retarded thread (your stock just went down a point )... and it's 1 2 3 4 5 ... everyone knows you learn to count to 10 before the abc's

 

[engie]

Let him make his decision and chill out. You people need to start paying closer attention to actual football games and less attention to what an individual player's recruiting ranking tells you. If you had done that, you would realize that this is not NEARLY as big of deal as people are making it...

 

[was21]

amen. signed: hugh freesus

 

[maroonmania]

What kind of "pressure" can fans put on a recruit that would trump anything the staff/recruiter has already played? Other than $$$$?

Exactly, unless you are an MSU fan that has personal contact with Kailo or somehow involved with him personally I don't see how you can apply "pressure" for him to keep his commitment. Heck, the collective fanbase of MSU put a LOT of pressure on CJ to keep his commitment and that got us nowhere because, as was stated here, that won't trump the people that are directly involved with his recruitment whether legally or illegally (per NCAA rules). Kailo knows good and well the MSU fans want him here but he should also know that when he makes some of the statements he makes to OM recruiting guys that we can't help but prepare ourselves for at least the possibility he may defect. If he was 100% committed to us he wouldn't be giving any of the Plantation bunch the time of day.

 

[coach66]

Exactly, end of discussion.

nm

 

[NEBDOGS]

Sorry has nothing to do with working, its taking care of the family. I think its time to play the game or just give OM the state.

 

[Coach34]

I can't believe you responded to this retarded thread (your stock just went down a point )... and it's 1 2 3 4 5 ... everyone knows you learn to count to 10 before the abc's

I'm an *******- but I do still feel the need to talk a jumper off the ledge from time to time

 

[engie]

Sorry has nothing to do with working, its taking care of the family. I think its time to play the game or just give OM the state.

What in the world makes you think we aren't playing the game? Why does everyone FIXATE on them when they play it successfully against us, yet "oh that's just a smart, loyal kid" when we successfully play it against them. Wake up people. We cheat at approximately the same rate.

Our mean difference in recruiting over the past decade is what? 3-4 spots in the rankings? MAYBE? Need to chill out with the conspiracy theories.

 

[FISHDAWG]

ha - NICE !

 

[tenureplan]

I'm surrounded by ********!

nm

 

[NEBDOGS]

OK You wait they are bringing this to a new level. If we are playing the game we are not very good at it.

 

[engie]

OK You wait they are bringing this to a new level. If we are playing the game we are not very good at it.

Right** Because the half dozen 4 and 5* recruits from all over the country that have visited/are visiting us in the past few weeks just fell right in our laps**

Strange that you sign up 4 months ago and then only start commenting in order to bash MSU...

Also strange that there isn't a nickels worth of difference between the two recruiting classes at this point...

 

[maroonmania]

Let him make his decision and chill out. You people need to start paying closer attention to actual football games and less attention to what an individual player's recruiting ranking tells you. If you had done that, you would realize that this is not NEARLY as big of deal as people are making it...

Isn't that sort of the point, thought his decision was already made. But I know a "commitment" doesn't mean what it used to.

 

[RocketDawg]

I suppose we were "the peoples'" university when I was there 40 years or more ago, but that's all changed. And I can't understand why everybody (and the everybody includes a lot of our own people) thinks we, MSU people, are socially inferior to Ole Miss people. It's just not true. And don't forget ... at the end of the day the Bears are still in the state of Mississippi too.

 

[o_hacker]

...I keep reading Sandberg might opt for pro baseball. That would put us up **** creek 100 times worse than losing Moore. We've got RB depth on the roster that is going to be here a while. Yet we've got 2 freakin' QB's on the roster & a commit who might not even make it to campus. What if Russell gets hurt next year, then Dak gets hurt? Who will play QB if Sandberg doesn't sign? Which walk-on will do the honors? You can meltdown about Moore. Meanwhile, I'll be melting down over this ridiculous QB scenario.

See: Joshua Dobbs

 

[RocketDawg]

And it should be that way. Somebody posted a chart a few weeks ago showing the number of high school players in each state, how many go on to play college ball, etc.

As I recall, Mississippi has a disproportionate number of players in high school ball, but they don't really have all that many that make it to the college ranks ... a lower percentage than most other states. So we must and should go looking out of state, and nationally.

 

[johnson86-1]

What in the world makes you think we aren't playing the game? Why does everyone FIXATE on them when they play it successfully against us, yet "oh that's just a smart, loyal kid" when we successfully play it against them. Wake up people. We cheat at approximately the same rate now.

FTFY.

Do people think that Mullen's yankee *** suddenly got charming last year? We are going to be fine going forward. UM may go outspend us, but obviously most players don't simply go to the highest bidder. We just can't be the only team in the SEC west trying to play it straight.

 

[NEBDOGS]

You dont know me and I dont you, but I'm not bashing MSU only stating facts. There is not many people that bleed maroon more than I do. I promise you I know more about recruiting than most people simply because of experience. I'm old enough that I have been through this with NCAA

 

[maroonmania]

No, but let's get real here...

FTFY.

Do people think that Mullen's yankee *** suddenly got charming last year? We are going to be fine going forward. UM may go outspend us, but obviously most players don't simply go to the highest bidder. We just can't be the only team in the SEC west trying to play it straight.

Nutt and his entire staff quit recruiting for all intents and purposes halfway through the season last year and it definitely took Bucky, as it does with all new HCs, a little bit to get going on the recruiting front at a new school. We have to remember that Freeze trained under Orgeron at OM on all the best recruiting tactics so I'm sure he knows what he's doing and more importantly the OM heppin' system is back out in full force. Now Mullen has been at this MS recruiting game himself for 4 years now so his is not exactly green at it by any means but I'm still not sure that I would call the recruiting game a Mullen strength.

 

[rem101]

What kind of "pressure" can fans put on a recruit that would trump anything the staff/recruiter has already played? Other than $$$$?

Time to start facebooking ans tweeting these young bucks.**

Yes, those are sarcastericks.

 

[gravedigger]

The answer isnt one you will want to hear. But here it goes:


Recruiting rankings mean exactly **** to coaches who know how to evaluate talent. I think that in spite of crooms and orgeron's inability coach they were able to recruit because they had better evaluations of the prospects than even the VERY best recruitnks out there.

What fanbases have to do is stop being so enthralled in the evaluations of people who dont coach for a living. But if you want to, so be it. I just refuse to give a **** about Moore's decision because I've seen the decision made countless times and it produced exactly nothing. Yes, recruiting services get it right often because they essentially rate based on who the best coaching staffs offer. That is after the fact.

What is absurd is fans dont see the ******** they are sellng.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

The answer isnt one you will want to hear. But here it goes:


Recruiting rankings mean exactly **** to coaches who know how to evaluate talent.

THIS! Even a cursory look at the NFL draft will tell you that stars are not a good indication of what kind of player you are getting...

 

[CooterBrown.sixpack]

The answer isnt one you will want to hear. But here it goes:


Recruiting rankings mean exactly **** to coaches who know how to evaluate talent. I think that in spite of crooms and orgeron's inability coach they were able to recruit because they had better evaluations of the prospects than even the VERY best recruitnks out there.

What fanbases have to do is stop being so enthralled in the evaluations of people who dont coach for a living. But if you want to, so be it. I just refuse to give a **** about Moore's decision because I've seen the decision made countless times and it produced exactly nothing. Yes, recruiting services get it right often because they essentially rate based on who the best coaching staffs offer. That is after the fact.

What is absurd is fans dont see the ******** they are sellng.

Best post on the whole thread.

 

[maroonmania]

Wrong on all points listed above. It's early in the post-season recruiting. Take a chill pill.

I'm glad that Moore is committed to us and all, but he's not more important than Shumpert. Shumpert can play offense or defense. Why do you think Mullen started with Shumpert?

We have other running backs who could get the job done - maybe not up to Moore's ability - but it's not catastrophic if he leaves. What is catastrophic is not signing a venerable quarterback or a JUCO receiver.

Very much doubt Moore will be used much as a RB by us. I see him more as an all-purpose guy in a Percy Harvin type role in Mullen's offense. I know we all use to talk about Bumphis being in that type role, but as good as Chad is, he doesn't have the outright speed to be that type player. Kailo Moore on the other hand by all indications does. No, it won't be doom and gloom if Kailo defects on us but if he does stick there is no doubt he could be a big weapon in an offense headed by a Prescott or Sandberg QB type. No use in trying to downplay that.

 

[shotgunDawg]

Guys, I am not worried about recruiting rankings. I am worried about this class, next years class, and the following. The point of my post is that sometimes you have to win certain battles to win the war. Ole Miss has some momentum right now, and if you disagree with that, then you are an idiot. OM punched us in the mouth and we simply need to punch them right back. We need to stop their momentum right where it is and not let it go any further.