From Tara's paper--RU getting benefit of doubt
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Good article - thanks for posting. I hope we're done with the negative stories coming out about the program. I think we can all agree with Miello's comment about wanting Rutgers to recruit good people that are also good players.
F*ck Tara Sullivan there was a negative story again from her on front page today...she twists things as well and was using nj.com references in her hit piece...shes another hack
No one else saw this? It's a huge mistake:
Rutgers has received 18 commitments from current high school seniors, none of whom play or reside in North Jersey. Those recruits cannot sign binding National Letters of Intent until Feb. 3, which leaves plenty of time for them to change their minds.
Pretty sure 4 commits are from NJ.
Rutgers has received 18 commitments from current high school seniors, none of whom play or reside in North Jersey. Those recruits cannot sign binding National Letters of Intent until Feb. 3, which leaves plenty of time for them to change their minds.
Pretty sure 4 commits are from NJ.
"Media and fans tend to look at this stuff a little bit closer than recruits do," VanHaaren said.
And NJ.Com and some posters on Scarlet Nation like to rehash and repeat this same stuff over and over and over and over.
And NJ.Com and some posters on Scarlet Nation like to rehash and repeat this same stuff over and over and over and over.
She is correct. None of the recruits are from North Jersey. The NJ recruits are from Central NJ.
Reading comprehension at its finest. Not surprising.
All things considered, a fair representation of the situation. Assuming there are no more fiascoes coming at us, it really does put a lot of pressure on the program to win some more games. The next six are pretty brutal and we could be under a ton of crap if we can't somehow do something positive with them.
You're right, for some reason I read it as New Jersey and not North Jersey.
North Jersey is Campanile territory to a degree , he coached there, his 2 brothers still are head coaches there (BC& SHP) and his dad used to coach there. Seems we are trending in the wrong direction there the last year or 2. Not sure who's to blame or what the answer is.
sorry to go off-topic...
Abro, only so much assistant coaches can do. Their job is to basically get the kids on campus to visit. And if we remember, the north jersey recruits were on campus a bunch of times these past couple of years.
I would kind of expect Rutgers to get the benefit of the doubt from most committed recruits.
The off-the-field arrests shouldn't really impact recruits. They are thinking that won't affect them, since they wouldn't do anything that would get them arrested. (And if they think they are at risk for getting arrested, we don't want them in our program anyway.)
The Flood suspension stuff they probably view as a harsh punishment for a coach violating some technical rule. I'm pretty sure there aren't a lot of high school kids thinking that Rutgers is going to take any further action for a coach emailing a professor.
Where Rutgers won't get the benefit of the doubt is if we go 4-6 this year. Losing is losing.
The off-the-field arrests shouldn't really impact recruits. They are thinking that won't affect them, since they wouldn't do anything that would get them arrested. (And if they think they are at risk for getting arrested, we don't want them in our program anyway.)
The Flood suspension stuff they probably view as a harsh punishment for a coach violating some technical rule. I'm pretty sure there aren't a lot of high school kids thinking that Rutgers is going to take any further action for a coach emailing a professor.
Where Rutgers won't get the benefit of the doubt is if we go 4-6 this year. Losing is losing.
I agree she runs hot and cold, and has been part of the negative feeding frenzy at times.
But, is not always negative or sarcastic like sl dbags.
But, is not always negative or sarcastic like sl dbags.
Why have this article at all if not to draw attention to the idea that recruits SHOULD start thinking about going elsewhere?
Welcome to New Jersey where we eat our own.
Welcome to New Jersey where we eat our own.
Wasn't a main complaint (not so long ago) about RU's NJ recruiting was the South Jersey kids weren't committing,
now it's North Jersey kids are the problem.
I think the problem is most of top NJ HS talent goes elsewhere and it doesn't matter if their from the north or south.
now it's North Jersey kids are the problem.
I think the problem is most of top NJ HS talent goes elsewhere and it doesn't matter if their from the north or south.
Tara "runs hot and cold?" Or maybe there actually are negative aspects to what is going on -- the cold -- and then there is the larger picture when you see it's not as bad as some are making it out to be? You can't ignore the fact Flood did what he did and the players and ex-players appear to have done what they appear to have done. So stop asking people to act like southerners and look the other way.
And while it's not the most important aspect to the Record's story, what a newspaper considers "North Jersey" or "Central Jersey" is more about the market it serves than a serious geographical designation. I worked for the Courier News for years, and once got in an argument with a news-side editor over referring to our coverage area as "Central Jersey" when the NJSIAA had a VERY different view of what "Central Jersey" was. (It's not even defined now, with the more balanced way of forming sections it implemented a few years back instead of going by county.) The Courier News likes referring to its area as "Central Jersey" despite the fact it did not include Trenton, New Brunswick or Freehold but it did include Lebanon Township. And the NJSIAA had a very different idea, and calling our area Central Jersey would have confused readers.
So even if the earlier poster had noticed "North Jersey" in the story, he might not have realized that "North" is in the eye of the beholder.
And while it's not the most important aspect to the Record's story, what a newspaper considers "North Jersey" or "Central Jersey" is more about the market it serves than a serious geographical designation. I worked for the Courier News for years, and once got in an argument with a news-side editor over referring to our coverage area as "Central Jersey" when the NJSIAA had a VERY different view of what "Central Jersey" was. (It's not even defined now, with the more balanced way of forming sections it implemented a few years back instead of going by county.) The Courier News likes referring to its area as "Central Jersey" despite the fact it did not include Trenton, New Brunswick or Freehold but it did include Lebanon Township. And the NJSIAA had a very different idea, and calling our area Central Jersey would have confused readers.
So even if the earlier poster had noticed "North Jersey" in the story, he might not have realized that "North" is in the eye of the beholder.
Hafley and Angellicho (sp?) were very effective recruiters . The position Assistants do indeed pay an important role in recruiting the HS player, not just getting them on campus. EJ Barthel is more in that role, or at least involved.
Tara is as bad as the rest of them, do not let her scarlet sweatshirt fool you. She thinks Tim Pernetti should get an interview for the Texas AD job...brilliant
What she should do is interview him and ask WTF was he thinking when he lit both of our major programs on fire with two of the worst hires known to man.
If there is another AD who hired coaches in both main sports for whom scandal outpaces loss, I would love to see it...
Keith Idec wrote the article. Not Tara. That is why it was a decent article. Tara is a hack with an axe to grind. She is why I cancelled my subscription. I don't need to read her opinion filled crap.
We've ALL been guilty of that at some time. Easy enough to see it as NJ instead of North Jersey.
I like the way you think....must be Essex Cty in us...we think a lot alike. Hafley was a wizard recruiting.I used to think Bob Diaco was a wizard but Uconn isn't doing well recruiting with him there...i figured at least he'd grab a couple of plums a year even there at UConn but its not happening..
Has Flood had any big initiatives in recruiting like Schiano did?
Has he had those Junior Days when he'd speak about the vision for the program in front of many many HS juniors?
Has he set the standard for his recruiters to visit every HS, every year?
Has he had any out-of-the-box initiatives like the"Hello Scarlet Knight" childrens book sent to elementary schools?
There has to be a way to seize the initiative with recruits. We know winning will do it.. competing for championships and winning them.. but we need the recruits to do that.. so we need something else. What is it and what is Flood doing to try to make it happen? Was playing the Don Bosco QB no matter what part of his effort in this regard?
Has he had those Junior Days when he'd speak about the vision for the program in front of many many HS juniors?
Has he set the standard for his recruiters to visit every HS, every year?
Has he had any out-of-the-box initiatives like the"Hello Scarlet Knight" childrens book sent to elementary schools?
There has to be a way to seize the initiative with recruits. We know winning will do it.. competing for championships and winning them.. but we need the recruits to do that.. so we need something else. What is it and what is Flood doing to try to make it happen? Was playing the Don Bosco QB no matter what part of his effort in this regard?