FVC team will have an upset in the semis, either PR over Montini or CG over GW

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I haven't seen enough of PR to gauge that matchup although I take Montini's speed to overwhelm them. If GBW does not win by multiple TD's I will eat my hat.
 
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I haven't seen enough of PR to gauge that matchup although I take Montini's speed to overwhelm them. If GBW does not win by multiple TD's I will eat my hat.
The semifinals at home have been a issue for West. Strange things always seem to happen in those games.
 

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I haven't seen enough of PR to gauge that matchup although I take Montini's speed to overwhelm them. If GBW does not win by multiple TD's I will eat my hat.
Well youre going to end up eating your hat because you're taking CG very lightly , like every other person. CG/PR combined have been to state 4 times since 2009. Nobody gives them credit
 

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It's pretty typical of this board to take FVC teams lightly in the playoffs. That Montini-PR game next week could be a fantastic game. I think PR has a better chance than most think.
 

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It's pretty typical of this board to take FVC teams lightly in the playoffs. That Montini-PR game next week could be a fantastic game. I think PR has a better chance than most think.
I would give them a much better chance if they were home on grass.
 

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Well youre going to end up eating your hat because you're taking CG very lightly , like every other person. CG/PR combined have been to state 4 times since 2009. Nobody gives them credit
Your assumption that "everyone" is taking CG lightly is way off base, but it does not matter. We heard the same crap about RA. The players definitely won't, and that is what matters. Have fun at Duchon and your drive home..
 

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Don't ruin the narrative.

The FV teams do seem to have a long Edgy board history of claiming disrespect. I'm not sure how anyone from CG can still make that claim. Who would take them lightly at this point?
 
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I thought CG was one of the top 5 teams from last year. I do follow PR and know it will be a great game at Montini. It likely is the best team Montini has played all year. When the brackets first came out, I had my eye on this very game which concerned me.

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The FV teams do seem to have a long Edgy board history of claiming disrespect. I'm not sure how anyone from CG can still make that claim. Who would take them lightly at this point?

You will hear no disrespect from GW. C-G looks like a beast that will push GW to the brink of their will. We know what that entails.

What you will hear, and to be clear that this is in no way arrogant, is the one style of offense that GW is best suited to play is the option. C-G is no DGN and no one will make the mistake of suggesting such. But DGN put 21 first half points on Lville because their option threw Lville for a loop. Good teams adjust and respond, which Lville did. DGN hasn't scored a point vs GW in three years. MC runs for 300 vs Glenbard North and GW holds them to 69 yards rushing on a ton of carries. Before you get started on me, remember I am only discussing the style of offense.

I have read many times that C-G runs the best option in IL. If so, and I have no reason to refute, this will be a classic battle of strength against strength. I haven't started watching film yet, but I expect to see enormous offensive linemen making precise blocks creating small slivers that are exploited by talented RBs making the reads they have been taught to make for years.

What I will be curious about is the C-G defense. What type of offenses are they built to stop? Who are their studs? GW has displayed the ability to take what is given. It will be interesting to see where C-G decides to focus their efforts.
 
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Your assumption that "everyone" is taking CG lightly is way off base, but it does not matter. We heard the same crap about RA. The players definitely won't, and that is what matters. Have fun at Duchon and your drive home..
With a win back to Cary , yeah it'll be fun
 

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You will hear no disrespect from GW. C-G looks like a beast that will push GW to the brink of their will. We know what that entails.

What you will hear, and to be clear that this is in no way arrogant, is the one style of offense that GW is best suited to play is the option. C-G is no DGN and no one will make the mistake of suggesting such. But DGN put 21 first half points on Lville because their option threw Lville for a loop. Good teams adjust and respond, which Lville did. DGN hasn't scored a point vs GW in three years. MC runs for 300 vs Glenbard North and GW holds them to 69 yards rushing on a ton of carries. Before you get started on me, remember I am only discussing the style of offense.

I have read many times that C-G runs the best option in IL. If so, and I have no reason to refute, this will be a classic battle of strength against strength. I haven't started watching film yet, but I expect to see enormous offensive linemen making precise blocks creating small slivers that are exploited by talented RBs making the reads they have been taught to make for years.

What I will be curious about is the C-G defense. What type of offenses are they built to stop? Who are their studs? GW has displayed the ability to take what is given. It will be interesting to see where C-G decides to focus their efforts.
CG's coaching staff is prime.
 

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Is it safe to say, given that CG is not to be underestimated whatsoever, that GW is the favorite to win this game? I'm curious as to what FVC people think about this. I think if you compare scores of the regular season, it seems that GW is favored. By no means is this a sure fire indication of the better team, but it's something I use to base predictions on.

CG's only loss is to Huntley 29-8, who in turn lost to Oswego 17-14, Oswego in turn lost to Marist in a game which lacked defense. Marist lost to Benet 29-25, CG in turn handled Benet. GW hasn't lost yet. Lol, clearly this way isn't the best for considering future match ups (consider that WV lost to NN and is in the 8A semis). Is it possible to draw a clear distinction as to why GW or CG might be the favorite?
Edit: I think capnbill's analysis of GW's run defense against option teams might be a darn good reason to suspect GW as the favorite. To add to the analysis, GW was ran on by Hins South and Central, but South only had 141 yds compared to Centrals' 256 (acc. to Maxpreps), and their running scheme is closer to the option than Central's.

Last question to the FVC people, has CG thrown the ball well in passing situations?
 
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I haven't viewed any film on CG yet, but initial analysis give GW a 5 or 6 point advantage. But, I'd guess this game goes to the team with the fewest turnovers.
 
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I haven't viewed any film on CG yet, but initial analysis give GW a 5 or 6 point advantage. But, I'd guess this game goes to the team with the fewest turnovers.

I'll give you 3 1/2 points, but let's not get out of hand. C-G knows how to win and won't be intimidated. It could come. Down to the kicking game. If we get. The 2+inches of rain that is currently forecasted, it could be another 7-3 or 10-7 game.
 

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With a win back to Cary , yeah it'll be fun
Did GD93 come back as CG fan? there is a big difference between confidence abd arrogance. Your arrogance is unbelievable. You are such a contrast to most of the MC, RA, HS,HC fans of so many other quality teams that have fought hard against GW. I really hope you are the exception to other CG fan for their sake.
 

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I'll give you 3 1/2 points, but let's not get out of hand. C-G knows how to win and won't be intimidated. It could come. Down to the kicking game. If we get. The 2+inches of rain that is currently forecasted, it could be another 7-3 or 10-7 game.
I hope the forecast is wrong, or at least the rain total is under 1/2 inch. But I did notice that the forecast for Saturday morning is snow showers.

I think Iowa has the right idea: play the semi finals and finals at the UNI dome stadium in Cedar Falls, IA.
 

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I'll give you 3 1/2 points, but let's not get out of hand. C-G knows how to win and won't be intimidated. It could come. Down to the kicking game. If we get. The 2+inches of rain that is currently forecasted, it could be another 7-3 or 10-7 game.
How do they score 3 1/2 points? Cap keep the faith, looking forward to Gumbo.
 

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Did GD93 come back as CG fan? there is a big difference between confidence abd arrogance. Your arrogance is unbelievable. You are such a contrast to most of the MC, RA, HS,HC fans of so many other quality teams that have fought hard against GW. I really hope you are the exception to other CG fan for their sake.

Is it safe to say, given that CG is not to be underestimated whatsoever, that GW is the favorite to win this game? I'm curious as to what FVC people think about this. I think if you compare scores of the regular season, it seems that GW is favored. By no means is this a sure fire indication of the better team, but it's something I use to base predictions on.

CG's only loss is to Huntley 29-8, who in turn lost to Oswego 17-14, Oswego in turn lost to Marist in a game which lacked defense. Marist lost to Benet 29-25, CG in turn handled Benet. GW hasn't lost yet. Lol, clearly this way isn't the best for considering future match ups (consider that WV lost to NN and is in the 8A semis). Is it possible to draw a clear distinction as to why GW or CG might be the favorite?
Edit: I think capnbill's analysis of GW's run defense against option teams might be a darn good reason to suspect GW as the favorite. To add to the analysis, GW was ran on by Hins South and Central, but South only had 141 yds compared to Centrals' 256 (acc. to Maxpreps), and their running scheme is closer to the option than Central's.

Last question to the FVC people, has CG thrown the ball well in passing situations?
CG has thrown the ball good this year, look at J.P Sullivan's completion rating
 

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Did GD93 come back as CG fan? there is a big difference between confidence abd arrogance. Your arrogance is unbelievable. You are such a contrast to most of the MC, RA, HS,HC fans of so many other quality teams that have fought hard against GW. I really hope you are the exception to other CG fan for their sake.
Because these kids know how to win and have succeeded together (seniors and juniors). The seniors right now have seen two CG teams make it to state in 2012 in 6a and last year 7a. They know what it takes, this team wasn't hyped because of how good last year's seniors were, they took the spotlight from them. These kids have always succeeded even at the junior level.
 
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So I have checked out three games of C-G so far and they remind me of Lake Zurich. A tough bunch of kids that play relentless football until the whistle every play. Obviously, they are well coached. QB has a nice touch over the top. Don't see tremendous speed, at least compared to Auburn who had a ton.

Of the three games, the one that intrigues me the most is Huntley. It is almost as if C-G weren't ready for the Huntley pace of defense. Huntley came at them and forced early decisions by the QB. I'm certainly not suggesting we will have the same success as Huntley, but GW runs a similar attacking scheme that forces quick decisions. Much like MC, C-G will figure out that they will need to go to the air. They may pop one over the top but teams rarely reach the edge on GW.

One play I like is the reverse. C-G gets good flow going one way and leaves that single back on his own. He seems to have a different gear on that play. The QB hides the play action well when he does throw so we will see.

One theory may be that C-G uses their grass field as an advantage much like GW has over the years. Huntley was a turf game and Huntley appeared a step faster across the board. While it is true that GW has lost more playoff games at home than on the road, the last two losses came on 20 degree windy days where the field was more like concrete and of no advantage to anyone. So let's call the grass field issue a draw here.

The C-G defense swarms as well as anyone I have seen this year. Very similar to GW and again, Lake Zurich. The linebackers flow to the plays cleanly and they rarely miss tackles. Brodner looks to be the best back they have faced. What they will see is a guy that can lull you to sleep before he explodes through small spaces and rarely gets caught when he Hits open field.

This looks like it will be a heavy weight battle. Let's all hope the field is playable and doesn't play a factor. Both teams deserve to be here and deserve to have the chance to settle this the old fashion way.
 
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CG didn't seem like themselves that game against Huntley giving up 3rd and very long downs like 4 times. They seemed kinda surprised that they lost to Huntley. CG was in the game for 3 quarters. They had chances buy couldn't convert. Huntleys defense is very fast! It's all about match ups. Question is can GW stop Tyler Pennington?
 
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CG didn't seem like themselves that game against Huntley giving up 3rd and very long downs like 4 times. They seemed kinda surprised that they lost to Huntley. CG was in the game for 3 quarters. They had chances buy couldn't convert. Huntleys defense is very fast! It's all about match ups. Question is can GW stop Tyler Pennington?

I guess that is the question. Since half time of the HC game, no one has run for 100 yards against GW. Moline ran a similar style as C-G but with less edge speed. They had some bruisers and their coach decided to try to ."run it down GWs throats." They ran for 26 yards. Again, Moline is not in the same area code as Pennington. But I don't think Pennington will get 100 yards unless he runs it 35+ times. Maybe he will run it that many times and have success. Is that "stopping him?"
 

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I guess that is the question. Since half time of the HC game, no one has run for 100 yards against GW. Moline ran a similar style as C-G but with less edge speed. They had some bruisers and their coach decided to try to ."run it down GWs throats." They ran for 26 yards. Again, Moline is not in the same area code as Pennington. But I don't think Pennington will get 100 yards unless he runs it 35+ times. Maybe he will run it that many times and have success. Is that "stopping him?"
It helps because he wears down the defense trying to tackle him. Listen to what Benet and Batavia said about trying to tackle down Pennington.
 
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I fully understand he is a punishing back. Glad I don't have to tackle him.

I just go back to the MC fans telling me how they would run for 300 on GW. After 35-40 carries and 69 yards rushing, they stopped running the ball and tried to beat GW through the air. Auburn looked to hit the edge as they did on Reavis for 250+ yards running. I think they had about 35 yards on 20 carries when they switched to exclusive passing.

GW has faced some seriously tough RBs this year. Da Brook ran a 250 lb at us, HS has an absolute beast, Bobak from HC and the MC backfield were all big, strong and sought contact.

Again, not that I lack respect for TP as he looks like a beast, but he will be one of many for GW. Not sure I have seen where C-G has played anyone in the league of Brodner.
 

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Cap had a good analysis of CG. Defense probably very similar to GW's in terms of flocking to the ball and hitting hard, despite being undersized (Benet's stud RB/LB said smallest team they faced but they hit harder than anyone they faced). Pennington can be stopped and the difference this year is he is not running behind the O line they had last year. Not to take anything away from this year's CG O line, but they're not T. Ruhland, Gomez and Topal.

While I love TP as CG's fullback, he is no Brodner, but then again, who is? CG needs to be able to run the ball and GW has proven it is tough to do so against them. CG hasn't faced a Brodner, and not sure GW has faced a team that can run the ball as well as CG does with the option. Will CG be able to run the ball outside like they did against Batavia, as that is what did Batavia in last week?

Defense will win this game all day long. Should be a good one. Hope CG can hang with GW.
 
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Let's hope so Dino. each of the last three Semis at GW have been classic football games. Weather shows that it will be chilly, so it may come down to a matter of turnovers. Both teams look like they have huge positive turnover ratios this year, so it may come down to who breaks first.

C-G will bring their A game I'm sure, so really excited to see how this plays out.
 

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Let's hope so Dino. each of the last three Semis at GW have been classic football games. Weather shows that it will be chilly, so it may come down to a matter of turnovers. Both teams look like they have huge positive turnover ratios this year, so it may come down to who breaks first.

C-G will bring their A game I'm sure, so really excited to see how this plays out.
Game of the wk in my book and then comes MCHS/PR.
 
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