Game of Thrones Season Eight Thread

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Imo it was totally unpredictable what was going to happen...at one point I wondered how there would be 3 more episodes bc it seemed everyone would die..especially when he brought everyone back. I'm not sure what else you wanted them to do, unless you wanted the NK to kneel to bran or get in the crypt and raise all the dead stark skeletons. Either everyone was dying or someone was killing the nk in that episode. The best killer on the entire show whos been dropping hints about "death and not today" for seasons is unbelievable? Nah.

Now theres a limited army to take on what's south.

The episode was great entertainment. The complaint about tossing out a core theme of the book.

The only way the night would be defeated was by azhor azhai and his sword lightbringer. I was discussed too in the show in season three.

Instead that whole theme is just gone.

 

[buckethead1978]

Have you read the books?

 

[neilborders]

The complaint for many is that there was no actual “battle” with the Night King himself. He’s dead two minutes after he gets off his dragon. And Arya coming out of nowhere was almost an ex deus machina. NK heard or felt Jon coming from 200 feet away, but Arya was able to ninja right up on him.

 

[funKYcat75]

Arya has been set up to be the most badass assassin in Westeros since she shot the arrow in the first episode. She’s a Stark and it was at Winterfell. It had to be one of the those three. Bran probably orchestrated the whole thing anyway.

 

[Hank Camacho]

I'm not sure how anyone could have any gripes about that episode. Simply amazing.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

Ohhh nooooo the story line is ruined... how will i ever watxh the last 3 episodes????

 

[JohnBlue]

Haven't seen anyone pick up on this yet so I'll share...

Winter is coming was a common theme throughout the series. We learned that it really alluded to the army of the dead and the white walkers. That army was defeated at the Starks castle. Thus winter fell at Winterfell castle. Was that like the door and Hodor being planned all along?

You can nit pick last nights episode but you can't say it wasn't awesome because it was. I'm not pleased with Bran's role, guy with the most power outside the NK just sat there and never lifted a finger to help. He could have raised the dead, he could have taken away the army, he could have told people where the NK was etc.. guy just sat there.

As for not enough main characters falling... There is still three episodes left and another battle, someone has to be there for that. Not a dramatic enough fight with the NK? You either kill him quick or you're dead. This guy has thousands of body guards at a snap of his finger, it's not like someone was going to have a ten minute sword fight with him all alone.

 

[WildMoon]

That was major disappointment...

The **** was that trash...

 

[Anon1640710541]

The Night King never really “fought,” though. It’s not like the guy was a world class swordsmith. A drawn out one-on-one fight would have been completely out of character.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Have you read the books?

Yes did you?

You can nit pick last nights episode but you can't say it wasn't awesome because it was.

You can do both. It was an incredible episode. Just an unnecessary departure from a core story component.

 

[funKYcat75]

Just my opinion, but the idea of the Knight King and the White Walkers taking over the whole place seemed strange to start out with. Maybe it's covered in the books, but what would have been the goal? Just an entire continent of a few blue dudes and a bunch of zombies?

 

[Bill Cosby]

When did they get away from the books? They set up Arya killing the NK in season 3 when she met the Red Woman.

And it's a good thing Arya practice that dagger hand switch while training with Brienne.

 

[WildMoon]

When did they get away from the books? They set up Arya killing the NK in season 3 when she met the Red Woman.

And it's a good thing Arya practice that dagger hand switch while training with Brienne.

In the book, they never meet. I don't think

 

[_Chase_]

1. The Night King isn’t even in the books, so I’m not sure why people have their pantries in a wad about sticking to the story.

2. Arya killing him was perfection. Her entire story arc was developed over years to lead to that moment. The NK and his goons had encircled Bran 10 deep. Who else in the show had several seasons worth of sneaking around and assassinating people? We even had foreshadowing like 5 years ago from Melisandre.

If you’re bitching about the show you’ve been paying too much attention to ******** neck beard theories and not paying attention to the actual show.

 

[neilborders]

The show writers said they decided three years ago that Arya would be the one to kill the NK. So while it’s made to conveniently look like Melisandre was predicting it back in season 3, that couldn’t possibly have been the case.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Just my opinion, but the idea of the Knight King and the White Walkers taking over the whole place seemed strange to start out with. Maybe it's covered in the books, but what would have been the goal? Just an entire continent of a few blue dudes and a bunch of zombies?

The walkers are all the way back to the opening scene of the series iirc. They were the central theme in the books too

When did they get away from the books? They set up Arya killing the NK in season 3 when she met the Red Woman.

And it's a good thing Arya practice that dagger hand switch while training with Brienne.

Arya killing him wasn't necessarily the departure. It was Jon snow not being reborn as the prince that was promised, which was basically a good like warrior with a flaming sword who would be the only way to defeat the long night.

That's 1/2 the whole purpose of him being a secret targaryen, dying and being resurrected, melisendre entire existence the book, being able to ride dragons, the importance of three dragons, etc etc.

They wove all that into the show. Then discarded the payoff.

 

[funKYcat75]

The walkers are all the way back to the opening scene of the series iirc. They were the central theme in the books too

Yes, but what would have been the payoff of the army of the dead if they won? Is there something that would have happened if they succeeded?

 

[_Chase_]

The central theme of the show has always been the iron throne, not the white walkers.

 

[neilborders]

There HAS to be some kind of major unexpected twist/turn still to come. With three 80 minute episodes left, that’s four hours of story left to tell and all they have left to deal with is Ceresi.

If they can defeat the army of the dead in one night, then Dany and Arya should be able to defeat Ceresi’s mercanary army all by themselves. Two dragons and a faceless (wo)man should be enough.

 

[neilborders]

Yes, but what would have been the payoff of the army of the dead if they won? Is there something that would have happened if they succeeded?

That’s one disappointing part of the story that got omitted. Just being generic bad guys with no real purpose but to erase humanity...that’s a little undatisfying for a story as deep and rich as this.

 

[Anon1640710541]

If you feel like complaining, today just ain’t the day. Wait a few more, and get pumped in the meantime.

Last night was incredible.

 

[neilborders]

The central theme of the show has always been the iron throne, not the white walkers.

I think the theme was quite obviously that the battle for the throne was petty and meaningless in comparison to the real threat that was coming. Only Melisandre, Stannis, and Jon were smart enough to see it up until almost the very end.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Yes, but what would have been the payoff of the army of the dead if they won? Is there something that would have happened if they succeeded?

Who knows. We never got the payoff.

The central theme of the show has always been the iron throne, not the white walkers.

I think the theme was quite obviously that the battle for the throne was petty and meaningless in comparison to the real threat that was coming. Only Melisandre, Stannis, and Jon were smart enough to see it up until almost the very end.

Exactly. It was always the key to everything. The throne was a greedy distraction from the real war to come.

 

[WonderBraa]

The episode was great entertainment. The complaint about tossing out a core theme of the book.

The only way the night would be defeated was by azhor azhai and his sword lightbringer. I was discussed too in the show in season three.

Instead that whole theme is just gone.

I do understand. I posted something similar last night. But man that episode was still amazing. And we still don’t know about the prophecy yet. Give it time.

Maybe Arya is Azor Ahai. Maybe it is Jon, because without Jon, none of these characters would’ve rallied together to fight. It isn’t completely thrown out the window.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

I do understand. I posted something similar last night. But man that episode was still amazing. And we still don’t know about the prophecy yet. Give it time.

Maybe Arya is Azor Ahai. Maybe it is Jon, because without Jon, none of these characters would’ve rallied together to fight. It isn’t completely thrown out the window.

It was amazing I agree. Just feel they left alot on the table.

She can't be. Has to be a targaryen. And that storyline is moot now that the wights are dead.

 

[MarvinHagler89]

Good episode...yes.

Did I expect more? Also yes.

The huge fight, at night? Lazy. Battle of the Bastards and Hardhomme were better. Jmho.

Bran...let's warg into some ravens and watch. Useless. See ya' Theon, thanks for having my back.

The NK went down too easy. I'm all for Arya giving him the bidness, but c'mon .

Still a fan, will re-watch this episode and the rest, but on a scale of 1-10, I give it a 6...maybe a 7.

Hardhomme wasn’t a fight, it was a slaughter. Wasn’t a battle.

 

[_Chase_]

[eyeroll]

 

[mdlUK.1]

1. The Night King isn’t even in the books, so I’m not sure why people have their pantries in a wad about sticking to the story.

2. Arya killing him was perfection. Her entire story arc was developed over years to lead to that moment. The NK and his goons had encircled Bran 10 deep. Who else in the show had several seasons worth of sneaking around and assassinating people? We even had foreshadowing like 5 years ago from Melisandre.

If you’re bitching about the show you’ve been paying too much attention to ******** neck beard theories and not paying attention to the actual show.

OK I never read the books. So, if the NK doesn't exist in the books, how did they defeat the army of the dead??

 

[PuffyNips]

The writer never got that far.

 

[PuffyNips]

I wouldn't be surprised if another Night King emerges the next time winter comes.

The son of Dany/Jon or the son of Arya/Gendry could be the promised prince.

You know there is going to be something huge and unsuspected that happens in the next episode. Maybe that will require the promised prince?

Sansa isn't going to sit back and let the Dragon Queen rule the north. We know that.

Don't forget, Bran is the one who gave Arya the Valerian steel dagger. He knew what was going to happen. He didn't just sit back and do nothing after all. He was responsible for the chess pieces being in place.

 

[AthensCatFan]

I think the theme was quite obviously that the battle for the throne was petty and meaningless in comparison to the real threat that was coming. Only Melisandre, Stannis, and Jon were smart enough to see it up until almost the very end.

This is what's frustrating to me. The entire series is based upon the "real" threat and then it's just kind of over like that. One battle once they got past the wall and Arya ended it with a fancy knife drop after jumping 25 yards in the air at the Night King. And now we get 4 more hours of the battle for the iron throne to end out the series.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

The son of Dany/Jon or the son of Arya/Gendry could be the promised prince.

You know there is going to be something huge and unsuspected that happens in the next episode. Maybe that will require the promised prince?

Would have to be Jon's offspring.

Maybe but that wouldn't make sense either. The whole point of that prophecy was he would defeat the white walkers. With them gone it's a moot issue.

 

[dezyDeco]

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's SUPER-ARYA!!!

I enjoyed the episode, but with all the build-up and ways the NK could've been defeated... I thought that choice was weak.

And yes, you can like something, but still have valid criticisms.

 

[PuffyNips]

Would have to be Jon's offspring.

Maybe but that wouldn't make sense either. The whole point of that prophecy was he would defeat the white walkers. With them gone it's a moot issue.

Does it actually have to be a Targaryen? The red witch was pretty convinced Baratheon blood worked at one point. It definitely had some power, remember the shadow baby killing Renly? Gendry gave that blood.

 

[Xception]

There’s no ending that doesn’t have a complaint from somebody.

 

[neilborders]

Either Arya was the Prince that was promised, or it doesn’t exist.

 

[etowncatfan]

I about lost it when the Night King didn't die in the Dragons fire,then stated raising the dead again after everyone had killed a zillion of those guys. I was feeling sorry about everyone having to kill them all over again. I was tired the first time lol!!

 

[JB875]

Or maybe the whole prince that was promised was a misguided prophecy that’s referenced but doesn’t come to fruition. Maybe it’s used as a plot device to legitimize Stannis and draw people to his cause because without it there was nothing likable about him at all. Maybe it’s a part of the religion of the lord of light that is mythical and used as a way to give hope and meaning to an otherwise hopeless, meaningless life over centuries... and nothing more. It doesn’t mean “HEY HERES THE PLAYBOOK NOW WATCH IT PLAY OUT IN REAL LIFE.” It’s also so minimally referenced in the show past season two that if you think it was going to be a central theme of the last season... well I really don’t have anything nice to say about that line of thinking. Maybe it’ll matter more in the books if they’re ever finished... or maybe it won’t because it’s a damn prophecy.

 

[WonderBraa]

It was amazing I agree. Just feel they left alot on the table.

She can't be. Has to be a targaryen. And that storyline is moot now that the wights are dead.

I dont know that I agree it has to be a Targaryen. We know very little about the prophecy and what we do know is multiple interpretations from multiple people. Melisandre says herself that prophecies are not always what they seem.

With everything we do know about the prophecy (and there isnt much), no one character fits all the criteria (that I can think of). So why couldnt it be that each vision someone saw regarding the prophecy simply led Melisandre to Arya? Stannis led her to Jon, Jon led her to Dany, and they all led her to Arya. They all played a role in defeating the NK.

Melisandre was wrong many times and I dont think its a stretch to say that others like her were wrong too.

 

[WonderBraa]

Or maybe the whole prince that was promised was a misguided prophecy that’s referenced but doesn’t come to fruition. Maybe it’s used as a plot device to legitimize Stannis and draw people to his cause because without it there was nothing likable about him at all. Maybe it’s a part of the religion of the lord of light that is mythical and used as a way to give hope and meaning to an otherwise hopeless, meaningless life over centuries... and nothing more. It doesn’t mean “HEY HERES THE PLAYBOOK NOW WATCH IT PLAY OUT IN REAL LIFE.” It’s also so minimally referenced in the show past season two that if you think it was going to be a central theme of the last season... well I really don’t have anything nice to say about that line of thinking. Maybe it’ll matter more in the books if they’re ever finished... or maybe it won’t because it’s a damn prophesy.

Haha basically what my post was saying....didnt see your post till I made mine.