Garrett Greene is our STARTING QB!
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Greene had a fantastic game, rushing for 100+ yards and 2 TDs, passing for even more years. He's ready!
Pat was far from polished as a freshman/sophomore. And got a lot more practice snaps during that time to get better. Greene has not.
Green should've been playing more last year too, but we have a buffoon for a coach. So go figure. I'm not at all surprised he had a good game and saved us today. Without him, it was a 2 TD loss. My hats off to Garrett Greene! I dig that kid.
What makes you think Greene is good? Is it because he won a game. Even Doege was a .500 QB.
I do think people are overreacting to Greene having one good game against a bad team which was not prepared for him, but playing him isn't a bad call. Injury or not, JT clearly is not getting it done and has actually regressed within the system. Trotting him out there over and over expecting a different result is insanity. At least Greene, Nicco, or Crowder getting eaten by KSU and OSU could actually result in their development more so than the 3 school veteran in JT.
It's perplexing . . . I can only figure that JT is injured and doesn't want to disclose this to NFL executives. I'm no NFL expert, but given JT's performance this year, I'm not sure he'll be drafted.
With his injury history this is 100% spot on. The problem is that this approach severely affected his performance which is more crippling to his draft stock. If he was smart, he’d sit the rest of this season and transfer to a team with a solid coach and talent around him. Marchiol starts next year and everyone wins.
Or it could destroy them. Greene was #2 because of experience so far and his seniority over the other 2. Brown assigns by seniority more than talent most of the time. Can Greene manage a game with his high energy which also has out of control play?
Greene determination got us through to the win. I'll take determination and will to win everytime. Just hope he can reign it in a bit. Teams will prepare for him now especially the remaining 2 teams.
My feelings are this:
1. Brown and his offensive coaching staff does not do a good job of modifying/changing offensive strategy throughout the year. As the year goes on, we become stagnant because other teams scout and figure us out. We simply do not adapt to what the defense is doing against us.
2. Daniels got off to a hot start because he was "new" to the Big 12 and the offense was "new" with him. Once there was a few games under their belts, it became easier for teams to decipher what we were doing and our formations (ex. the stupid "read option" handoffs that Daniels was doing when everyone knew he wasn't pulling it from the RB).
What will you say if Greene flops the final 2 games and loses the final 2? Blame the coaches or Greene?
Depends. Will they try to keep him in the pocket? Then, yes. Coaches. (I don't think they will...but with this group of coaches, anything is possible)
If he goes out and stumbles, then so be it. I don't think he's the greatest QB since Pat White. But I do think that his abilities give WVU a better CHANCE at winning a game than Daniels.
He needs to learn progression.
He needs to learn not to RPO to only one side.
Cause he ain't passing if he's running left.
Not a fan of Greene but he has more emotion and determination of anyone on the field. Hopefully he can pass that on to some of the dead beats that stand around with their heads down.
Watching the replay Greene is it and should have been it going back - too bad Brown couldn’t evaluate QBs.
His fire and determination sparked that win. Great job and now he deserves to play out the season.
His fire and determination sparked that win. Great job and now he deserves to play out the season.
WVUAllen is spot on with every post. Greene had 1 great half. He also has way too many deficiencies that need to be addressed. Crowder and Nicco have a much higher upside. GG would be best as a slot guy.
Greene lack of following the called play has been his downfall. Nearly blew the game by putting the FG attempt at a horrible angle and the kick had to be knuckle balled in there.
Very good point. Legg misses that due to the angle, Greene is the goat, not the GOAT.
What difference does it make? We've all been told by board experts that Brown can't coach. So it would not matter who starts.
Just like last year with Doege, get a player who might be here for the next HC some experience.
Greene has had the experience opportunity. Now let's try the 2 QB's that have more talent than him.
I completely agree. Unless you have a guy ready to run an RR like spread, Greene has a low ceiling. I always thought Crowder, especially given Nicco was coming in, deserved the second half of last year to show what he has got.
They were .500 in regular season and went to a bowl game vs a team with more talent and experience. Could Greene have won those final 2 games to get them to a 2nd straight bowl? Greene biggest asset is his legs, heart and determination. He doesn't wear concrete shoes. I believe JTD gave up and it reflected in his game play and the team noticed and followed with the same lack of interest.
It doesn't have to be an RPO QB to win. You just have to have the ability to get outside the pocket to avoid a sack.
Thats an interesting take, but it has validity based on what we've seen transpire on the field this season. JT was better early in the season, and seemed more into it and energetic until more recent weeks. He doesnt even look like the same QB who started the season for us. Why would he give up though? Poor OL play? Poor playcalling? Brown, doing whatever it is that players dont seem to like about him -just being a crappy coach?
Or 6 losses for kid who is use to winning and winning national titles. Who says JT was better first part of season? We were still choking on our own **** and losing.
People talking about Greene like he's the next Pat White have forgotten the 4th quarter on the game tying drive on 4 and 16 the personal foul flag picked up by the officials on James dirty dumb hit on a player kneeling in the end zone after the play. That would have added 15 yards to the 4th down and probably looking at a punt instead of 4th and 11.
Oklahoma also missed a FG in 4th quarter that would have given them a 23-20 lead.
It's your opinion that players don't like Brown. You have no idea. But as far as being a coach in P5 at WVU it is not a good fit.
Neal Brown doesn't call the plays. The other Air Raid guy does. How many titles has an Air Raid offense won in P5 level?
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