Gerri Green denied early graduation

[121Josey]

Green's school denied him early graduation over credits in physical education and driver's ed.

WTF? The kid has an athletic scholarship to a D-I school and has probably been driving for at least 2 years. Are these classes even core curriculum?

This story needs to be seriously investigated. Talty did a piss poor job of investigating this story. He had no references to the school's administration or school board. All he posted was a quote from the coach and the Miss. education commissioner, who said that he doesn't know what the school is talking about.

Green tore his ACL in October. He could be getting dedicated attention in his rehab if he were at State during the spring semester.

 

[os62]

Green's school denied him early graduation over credits in physical education and driver's ed.

WTF? The kid has an athletic scholarship to a D-I school and has probably been driving for at least 2 years. Are these classes even core curriculum?

This story needs to be seriously investigated. Talty did a piss poor job of investigating this story. He had no references to the school's administration or school board. All he posted was a quote from the coach and the Miss. education commissioner, who said that he doesn't know what the school is talking about.

Green tore his ACL in October. He could be getting dedicated attention in his rehab if he were at State during the spring semester.

So it's the school's fault and not Green's for getting his academics in order? Got it.****

 

[Rezpup]

You're terrible.

 

[os62]

How so? As a teacher, you know how many times I've had to hear that it is the school's fault and NOT the kid's fault for clearing up his academics/class load? It's ALWAYS the teacher's fault. It's also the teacher's fault because our educational system is so poor. Pardon me if I hear this story and start taking offense when the poster basically accuses the school of screwing over one of their own kids.

Now, I don't know anything about Green's situation. I have no problem saying that IF he did do everything right, then I hope he enrolls early at MSU. But, I just don't understand why a high school would deny him early graduation if he did everything right.

 

[dawgstudent]

If he has the credits to graduate as put forth by the state - seems to me it's on the Greenville school district.

 

[os62]

I agree with that. But from reading what Josey posted, the discrepancy involves two credits. I don't know the details, and I'm sure none of us do. BUT, perhaps he doesn't have those credits afterall? I dont know. I'm not arguing that he doesn't deserve to early enroll IF everything is legit. So why the discrepancy? I don't know why a school district would do this to a kid that may go on and represent Greenville in a positive light. That is what is strange to me. Maybe they are actually doing their jobs and not just giving him credits? (again, I have no clue)

 

[hatfieldms]

If he were missing credits in English and algebra I would agree

But drivers ed and PE? Really?

 

[os62]

But drivers ed and PE? Really?

I agree with this. I wouldn't honestly care if it were some electives, personally. That's why I'm saying something doesn't add up here. There has to be more to this story than is out there right now. That's all I'm saying. I wonder what the Greenville School District's take on this is?

 

[dawgstudent]

This sentence explains everything to me: "The Dandy Dozen linebacker passed all his state testing requirements, had the necessary credits and was ready to move to Starkville."

 

[os62]

This sentence explains everything to me: "The Dandy Dozen linebacker passed all his state testing requirements, had the necessary credits and was ready to move to Starkville."

Yeah but I can say the same thing about Jerrell Powe, print the quote in a paper, and it still doesn't make it necessarily true.

 

[HD6]

I can provide a quote where his mom says he can't read.

 

[hatfieldms]

Let's please leave those important facts out of this

....

 

[os62]

I can provide a quote where his mom says he can't read.

That's my point. I can tell you about a millions times that my mom said she wanted to kill me because I was misbehaving. Somehow, I'm still alive...

 

[KurtRambis4]

I agree

with your statement that it's a students responsibility. Howevert, there are plenty of inept staff members across the state employed by schools.

 

[os62]

with your statement that it's a students responsibility. Howevert, there are plenty of inept staff members across the state employed by schools.

That is something we definitely agree on, unfortunately...

 

[justme55987]

I can provide a quote where his mom says he can't read.

You can also post the video of him reading for the reporter but you wouldnt do that because it doesnt fit the anti Ole Miss agenda.

 

[justme55987]

with your statement that it's a students responsibility. Howevert, there are plenty of inept staff members across the state employed by schools.

Sadly this is very true. I use to be a high school teacher and the councelors were just awful. They didnt even prepare the students to take the ACT until their senior year and by then you should have taken it, or at least a prep to get ready to take it, if you have any aspirations of college.

 

[HD6]

I can get my four year old to read on a video. Doesn't mean she should be in college.

 

[justme55987]

I can get my four year old to read on a video. Doesn't mean she should be in college.

It does if she becomes a 5 star DT.

 

[HD6]

So it's OK to let people into college based on athletic superiority and not academic requirements?

 

[justme55987]

So it's OK to let people into college based on athletic superiority and not academic requirements?

Dear lord where have you been? You know thats the way things are. Should it be ok, no. But to act like its not the accepted way of doing things is dumb.

 

[dawgstudent]

Yes

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Hmmm I just about to ask what the pupose of a Guidance Councelor was.

Let's see you have D1 athlete in the house, and no one takes an interest to help guide him ....

Just sort of curious.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

So it's the school's fault and not Green's for getting his academics in order? Got it.****

Yes. The guidance counselor is supposed to tell Green what classes he should take to enroll early and help him make sure all his **** is together. The fact that he's actually missing Driver's Ed and PE makes this whole thing a big joke for the school.

Nobody is necessarily saying it's the teacher's fault, but the school administration blew it.

But whatever. If this was Breeland Speaks, you'd be saying the same thing I am- since it's a State commit, it's all his fault.

 

[drt7891]

Your mom never went to a newspaper and said "he's a bright kid, he just can't read." You're reaching a bit... but Nice try.

 

[os62]

Your mom never went to a newspaper and said "he's a bright kid, he just can't read." You're reaching a bit... but Nice try.

I was also never ranked the #1 football player in the state of MS. Thus, she was never interviewed. Nice try though.

 

[NorCalDawg]

But drivers ed and PE? Really?

They just want to make sure he is physically prepared to play SEC football and that he is able to get to the games. Lighten up! They have his best interest at heart.**

Seriously? They're going to make him do this when I hear of other kids graduating that can't do math or read at a high school level? Oh, but I guess they had enough credits in PE and driver's ed. I find it hard to believe that the school doesn't have any flexibility in this case or any other options so that he can leave early.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

I was also never ranked the #1 football player in the state of MS. Thus, she was never interviewed. Nice try though.

What in the hell are you even doing over here? Shouldn't you be on an LSU board?**

 

[esplanade91]

I had a guidance counselor ask me in 9th grade where I wanted to go to college. I was 15 at the time and had no clue, but I said MSU... so instead of enrolling me in a foreign language she enrolled me in an extra elective (Mississippi universities don't require foreign languages, where every other state's does). My senior year I was interested in going to a couple different schools and had the credentials to get into them aside from language.

I didn't speak to a guidance counselor the rest of my entire high school career, and my high school has a great reputation of sending kids to great colleges... I'm just floored looking back at the whole thing. They're paid higher than the teachers. They justify keeping their jobs because GHS has a ridiculous % of its students going straight to college out of high school, but a significant amount of those are headed to the Jefferson Davis campus at MGCCC. JUCO is fine and I'm certainly not complaining about them getting credit for that, but I must have gone to 100 (required) assemblies in the auditorium of someone from MGCCC giving a presentation. They were basically taking credit for the kids who were going to go to college anyway and then making sure the people who weren't would at least take a couple free classes at MGCCC because they found out they could in one of the hundred presentations.

It's not always the teacher's fault, but 50% of the time it's not the kid's fault. In this case he got screwed by a superintendent worrying about his stats... which in actuality aren't affected by him leaving early.

 

[patdog]

Yeah, Talty did a very poor job with the story. No explanation at all of why he was denied early graduation. Did he just not have enough credits? If so, that's just poor planning on someone's part. What's to stop him from dropping out, taking the GED, and enrolling in January like the Callaway kid is doing at Co-Lin? In any case, this sucks, but probably isn't really a big deal overall.

 

[StateDoggy]

Green is a smart kid. He has met all requirements for graduation. He is taking P.E. and Drivers Ed because he has to take something. It's District Policy that he can't graduate early. The District gets funding based on numbers. That is why they don't allow early graduation. Sad but true.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

So it's the school's fault and not Green's for getting his academics in order? Got it.****

Hell. They let some folks out of high school to play football when they cannot read.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

Green is a smart kid. He has met all requirements for graduation. He is taking P.E. and Drivers Ed because he has to take something. It's District Policy that he can't graduate early. The District gets funding based on numbers. That is why they don't allow early graduation. Sad but true.

Its called butt in seat money. You have to have them there to get funding for six figure administration salaries and funding for their assistant to the assistant secretaries.

 

[justme55987]

Let's see you have D1 athlete in the house, and no one takes an interest to help guide him ....

Just sort of curious.

It is the councelors job to help in these situations, but it has to fall to the student to find out what is needed. The councelor has a lot of other admin things at most school as well. I do however find it difficult to fathom that Green was never told that his School District doesnt allow early graduation, because he would have had to talked to someone about all of his requirements to graduate. You would think not being able to leave early would have been brought up. Also I dont believe PE or Drivers Ed are actual state required classes anymore and are just electives. I tought in Ms almost 5 years ago and they werent even required then.

 

[jb1020]

Isn't Playing football considered a PE course??? Pretty sure it was that way at my hs 15 years ago.

 

[engie]

Well, this isn't nearly the bad news I was expecting when Talty was hinting yesterday...

Would be nice to have him in the spring, but this isn't the end of the world given his injury...

 

[HD6]

That's a good point. It does suck we can't get him on a better rehab program, but he wasn't going to practice anyway.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Bracky

 

[121Josey]

Green is a smart kid. He has met all requirements for graduation. He is taking P.E. and Drivers Ed because he has to take something. It's District Policy that he can't graduate early. The District gets funding based on numbers. That is why they don't allow early graduation. Sad but true.

Thanks for clarifying this (i.e., nice first post**). Hopefully those who fund find out that this district is denying students the opportunity to graduate early so that their rears can be in a "seat" for PE and driver's ed. And the kid can't get a job because of his scholarship.

Do they still do the physical head count? If so, I hope GG is working on his rehab that day.

 

[engie]

Thanks for clarifying this (i.e., nice first post**). Hopefully those who fund find out that this district is denying students the opportunity to graduate early so that their rears can be in a "seat" for PE and driver's ed. And the kid can't get a job because of his scholarship.

Do they still do the physical head count? If so, I hope GG is working on his rehab that day.

It's amazing to me that -- according to the quoted post -- they are preventing kids from graduating early. Are they preventing them from dropping out as well to "protect their funding"? There is almost certainly far more kids dropping out than they have graduating early...