Getting nasty at JA

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Very interesting. Some private schools up here in Tennessee could use a lawsuit or two like that.
 
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johnson86-1

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I am of the opinion that if a private school wants to expel you for bad publicity it is 100% valid. School is a privilege both private and public but especially private.
I don't know. JA's contractual position is good based on the language, but hard to argue that it isn't implicitly understood that if you pay tuition for 11 years, you will get to graduate from the school absent some wrong doing. Not sure what the damages are. Probably not 11 years of tuition but who knows. Lots of parents apparently think going to JA is worth $150k or whatever 12 years of tuition now costs, but presumably a lot of that value is in actually being there, and not just the last year and the sheepskin effect.

A complaint is only one side of the story, but the JA adminstrator looks like **** here, and I assume the lawyer and plaintiffs wouldn't lie about who they shared it with, as that's going to be easily figured out in discovery if they aren't willing to commit perjury. JA's best argument is going to be if the PDF identifies at least one student that was not recruited and unfairly singled him out for backlash. But not sure they can get to that point without going through discovery, which is going to put a spotlight on the recruiting. Can't imagine all of those people are going to be willing to commit perjury to claim they weren't recruited. At worst, they violated some MAIS rules. No real harm to them to admit that and be forthcoming and to avoid doing something that in theory could cause real legal trouble (although unfortunately there probably wouldn't be any consequences if they all did just lie).
 

johnson86-1

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I'd bet the JA side tries to settle that lawsuit asap to avoid private communications being revealed during discovery.
I'm sure they'd like to but I'm not sure the money is going to be what the plaintiffs are after as much as forcing JA to course correct. I am assuming people referring to her as a Yates are correct and that JA isn't going to be paying them enough to make a real difference to them.
 

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Money not going to move the needle
That’s gonna be some leadership changes public apology type settlements
 

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Allegedly, one of JA's board members is President or very high up at one of the local bank. Yates Construction had all their accounts and money in said bank. When this went down, Yates pulled every dime out of said bank.

Voyles kid is now at Tri County. My son played with him this fall in a wood bat league.

Prep had several JA transfers this year due to the goings on with the football team. The grapevine says there will be more leaving after this year.

The baseball team may be just as bad regarding recruiting, allegedly. The word I heard last year was they were trying to get kids from Tri County and Canton Academy to transfer to JA. I think the coaches of those schools stepped in and shut that down.
 
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Allegedly, one of JA's board members is President or very high up at one of the local bank. Yates Construction had all their accounts and money in said bank. When this went down, Yates pulled every dime out of said bank.

Voyles kid is now at Tri County. My son played with him this fall in a wood bat league.

Prep had several JA transfers this year due to the goings on with the football team. The grapevine says there will be more leaving after this year.

The baseball team may be just as bad regarding recruiting, allegedly. The word I heard last year was they were trying to get kids from Tri County and Canton Academy to transfer to JA. I think the coaches of those schools stepped in and shut that down.
Corey Dickerson (JA Head baseball coach) resigned a few weeks ago. Now first base coach for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Quite a step up.
 

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Corey Dickerson (JA Head baseball coach) resigned a few weeks ago. Now first base coach for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Quite a step up.
I didn't realize that. I liked Corey. He does/did a lot for Canopy Children's Solutions especially for Autism.
 

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Now that paying players is legal in college football, folks still gotta scratch that itch.
 

mstateglfr

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I am of the opinion that if a private school wants to expel you for bad publicity it is 100% valid. School is a privilege both private and public but especially private.
Yeah...it isn't a privilege. It's a right.
It isn't even debatable- it is a well documented and litigate right.

Your private school comment works though...to a degree.
 
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Yeah...it isn't a privilege. It's a right.
It isn't even debatable- it is a well documented and litigate right.

Your private school comment works though...to a degree.
It’s a privilege. One that the government exploits to teach children to be their little pets
 
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johnson86-1

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Allegedly, one of JA's board members is President or very high up at one of the local bank.
based on Nothing but google and the JA website, it doesn’t appear that any of the board members are particularly high up at a bank, although it looks like one is in wealth management at one. If that’s really true, I would not want to be that guy telling the commercial bankers they lost that account because he signed off on expelling bill yates grand son because the dad helped publicize their recruiting.
 

johnson86-1

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Between the 14th amendment, FAPE, and more- you are objectively incorrect.
It’s semantics unless you are actually talking about natural rights and what governments should not be allowed to do, but it’s a legal entitlement. Not a right.
 

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based on Nothing but google and the JA website, it doesn’t appear that any of the board members are particularly high up at a bank, although it looks like one is in wealth management at one. If that’s really true, I would not want to be that guy telling the commercial bankers they lost that account because he signed off on expelling bill yates grand son because the dad helped publicize their recruiting.
Probably incorrect on both fronts but Voyles is on the board of a bank the Yates built. Structurally and financially
 

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Allegedly, one of JA's board members is President or very high up at one of the local bank. Yates Construction had all their accounts and money in said bank. When this went down, Yates pulled every dime out of said bank.

Voyles kid is now at Tri County. My son played with him this fall in a wood bat league.

Prep had several JA transfers this year due to the goings on with the football team. The grapevine says there will be more leaving after this year.

The baseball team may be just as bad regarding recruiting, allegedly. The word I heard last year was they were trying to get kids from Tri County and Canton Academy to transfer to JA. I think the coaches of those schools stepped in and shut that down.
The banking thing is not true. Or at least not in the sense of Yates moved all their money and accounts out of a bank. Yates is a board member at trustmark and the overwhelming majority of deposits are at trustmark. Now the company or Yates personally may have a small amount of money in wealth management at bank plus, but it’s nowhere even close to “all of their accounts”.
 

mstateglfr

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It’s semantics unless you are actually talking about natural rights and what governments should not be allowed to do, but it’s a legal entitlement. Not a right.
Tell me how the 14th and FAPE fit into your argument.
 
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ronpolk

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Can we get back to the main topic? I want to hear what was said about someone’s dad and why a public apology is deserved or how the richest people in the poorest state are gonna take their money and go build a new sandbox.
I certainly have no inside information but it seems like a parent was not happy about his son not being good enough to make the baseball team after they started recruiting.
 

615dawg

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JA made a huge mistake based on an emotional response. Right or not, you don’t expel a kid with that pedigree because you are embarrassed that his dad pointed out the recruiting. You find a way to make it right.

The JA response has basically been “other schools are recruiting” which is true but reading through this lawsuit I see some merit.

The parents had a contract with the school. That contract was severed by a single person with no grounds to do so. JA has no argument here. The damages will be up to the court but I suspect they aren’t really looking for money here.
 
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