What does everyone think of 6'6", 280lb Kip Green? He has already got D1 size.
Giles Sophomore
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6'6 big strong country boy from Giles County. Sounds like a Big 10 recruit to me.
It will be interesting to see how or if he dominates this season. Which Big 10 team? The Cornhuskers was the first thing that popped into my mind. Maybe Michigan?
Michigan has a good track record with VA players. Ohio State has gotten VA's best with Jalen Holmes and Curtis Grant (Herm). Then you have to throw in Penn State.. and Wisconsin!!! Oh yeah... I'll speculate and say that Pope will go Big 10 too
(OHIO STATE)Spoke to a rival coach of Giles earlier this off-season and he raved about Green. Thinks he's the best young linemen in that area. Believes he'll be a big-time recruit by the time of his senior year.
Seen a bit of film and he's shown some flashes. I think he'll start to put it together by end of this year.
Seen a bit of film and he's shown some flashes. I think he'll start to put it together by end of this year.
I was thinking, maybe Dinwiddie should send the recruitment team out to talk with him.
Free use of a lakefront home on Lake Chesdin, a car of his choice, concert tickets, all of the food he can eat, (prepared for him by a chef), occasional use of the recruitment teams private jet, guaranteed 4.34 or higher GPA, attendance at school is voluntary, and $5000 per week spending money.
I know this is a minimalistic offer, but Mike hasn't sent the Salem team yet, so we are trying to get him for a steal.
All kidding aside, I'm happy for this young man. God gave him a superior body. It will be enjoyable watching him learn how to use it.
Free use of a lakefront home on Lake Chesdin, a car of his choice, concert tickets, all of the food he can eat, (prepared for him by a chef), occasional use of the recruitment teams private jet, guaranteed 4.34 or higher GPA, attendance at school is voluntary, and $5000 per week spending money.
I know this is a minimalistic offer, but Mike hasn't sent the Salem team yet, so we are trying to get him for a steal.
All kidding aside, I'm happy for this young man. God gave him a superior body. It will be enjoyable watching him learn how to use it.
Young and still learning the game, but will be a big time prospect if he continues to develop. I can say this: he was at a VT practice back in spring and Wiles & Foster were all over him. Good kid too from what i know.
UNC or VT IMHO.......Heels may lead at this time. If it was Basketball which kid likes. It would be Heels. Of course UNC is possibly getting hammered by NCAA(which they should). So VT is in pic. Get that Big 10 stuff off the board. ACC or possibly SEC
Awe, just rambling aimlessly about the big 10. First things first, he needs to get better. Then, he can pick where he wants to go.
I just said Big 10 due to their physicality on the lines. The SEC and ACC has some good talent but the lines are stronger and bigger in the Big 10 for some reason.
Huge UNC fan i've heard. BTW: My money says UNC gets a slap on the wrist and not much more
Agreed...he was very very raw last year but did show flashes....and like you I expect him to make great strides this year also.
He is also one of the nicest kids I've ever been around...sometimes too nice on the field lol...if he ever develops a mean streak he will be an absolute terror
I respect your posts DP but you better not send any of your recruiters here for Green or there may be Hell to pay for those recruiters lol...don't come stealing our players...that is your last warning lol
Just messing with ya dude haha
But be careful. When you turn loose the dogs on us, those snakes from Salem and Sherando will be sneaking in the back door.
We've got some tough guys here, but even they don't want any parts of the guys out there in Pearisburg! So you are safe!
We've got some tough guys here, but even they don't want any parts of the guys out there in Pearisburg! So you are safe!
VaBlueDevil33, I won't get out your way this year, but next summer, if life will allow, I plan to make a big old loop through SWV. I would love to cross paths with you just to say hi. I enjoy people that have fun and don't take life so seriously.
Got him playing tight end on offense this year. I know Giles doesn't throw much, but he'll be a load to bring down if they get the ball to him some.
I heard full-back Chapman didn't come out this year. May be looking for a short yardage power back
Possibly 3rd and short and 4th and short...other than that I don't see it at all...and maybe not even then
I think the UNC tie is because of bball. Or some giles people have said so. Football wise I just have feeling things can change. That doesn't mean VT either. I just do not see him going north. WHy I was stating no on BIG 10.
Having seen Giles many times, it doesn't matter if Giles has Odell Beckham at WR or Jason Whitten as TE, "they ain't throwin"! When all is said and done, keep your eyes on Green at not Offensive/Tight End, but at Defensive Tackle. This is where he will end up playing Division one ball, on the defensive side. He's huge for a sophomore, but he is not so lean as in....tight end 240-260 lb lean, he's going to end up by the end of his senior year at about 6-7, 290-300lbs. Remember, he is only a sophomore. Look for Giles to move him inside on defense (down tackle) next year (not this year with their juniors and seniors on the roster) but next year in 2018, when the kid is a junior and about 290 lbs, look for him to be playing down tackle on defense. He's still a sophomore and it's hard to tell how a big sophomore will go in the next 2-3 years. Will he lose all his baby fat and be 260 lbs of lean muscle, or will he bulk up a bit more and be 300 lbs, 6-7 as a senior? Either way, he's athletic enough in that it doesn't matter. He's Div 1 bound. I say by the end of next year in 2018, he's recruited at the end of his junior year/prior to his senior year as a top 100 player, definitely a 4 star, and not a Tight End, not a Defensive End, but a defensive tackle (a position he will not play one down at this season at Giles).
Well you don't know what you are talking about here
He will play some DT this year I promise you that...depending on what defense we are in
And if we had Beckham jr or Whitten I can guarantee you we would throw the ball....problem is even though we have had some great HS players we have never had an OBJ or Witten
I believe a few years back Giles had a big tight end, I believe his last name was Rhodes. I recall them throwing to him quite a bit. Now I know Giles is not going to air it out a lot, but a big target like that in passing situations is still a weapon opponents will have to look for and respect
Ok, relax tool. Of course you would throw it with Beckham and Whitten, that was something call hyperbole. For the ignorant, this means....just making the general point that Giles doesn't not throw it much. Now before you respond simply in order to disagree, understand a single wing offense is more of a run oriented offense than the old wishbone of the 70's and 80's. Sure, Giles will throw the ball some, but by in large, it's not a passing program, period. Fact and stats prove that. If we were to go back to the year of 1990 and take every AA or Class 2 team in the state of Va in the last 26 years, you and I both know Giles would be in the bottom 25% of these teams in pass attempts. That's the point I was making (and you know that, you were simply disagreeing in order to disagree.)
As for him playing DT this year. Wise choice for Giles coaching staff. He needs to be there every play, directly over the ball blowing up the line of scrimmage and making the offense start from 5 yards deep in the backfield. I will repeat this also, he is no Div 1/FBS TE, PERIOD. He is 280 lbs 6-4 or 6-5ish as a sophomore. This means, he is 300 lbs as a senior. 300 pounders don't play tight end in college, but let me be clear for you tool, since you love the "literal." By in large, the overwhelming percentage of tight ends in college football at the Div 1/FBS level are not 300lbs. <----just want to make it clear so you don't have to search for the 1 or 2 300lbs tight enders across the country in order to disagree.
A target and this kid is a target....is definitely a weapon opponents have to look for in passing situations, but you hit it on the head with Giles......."in passing situations." That usually and overwhelmingly most of the time means.....3rd and long, not on 1st and 10. This is why you here very little of "a kid that Giles throw to a lot and can really catch it" over the years. You are not even sure of the kid they threw it to "some" a few years ago which means......and proves my point......."they ain't throwin it." But for the one literal tool, let me be clear so he is not so quick to disagree. "Giles does not throw the ball nearly as much as most other AA schools in Virginia." I have to spell it out. I'm sure, he may respond arguing Giles is the next Oregon in pass offense. Lastly, Giles has had several great teams and great athletes over the years that can run and catch it, but because it's largely a run oriented offense, we haven't heard much of their great receivers not because....they have not had the guys to throw to, but because as I eluded to earlier...."they ain't throwin it" or ain't throwin it much. A program doesn't magically have skilled offensive lineman and incredible running backs over a long, long time, but incredibly come up short in the area of luck at not having the athletes to catch the ball. It doesn't work that way. The law of averages does not support that. Giles CHOOSES not to throw it much.
You are the tool...I played there and know what the offense is and maybe you should coach giles since you have all the answers
And how many state titles have you won as a coach?
We choose not to throw it simply because over the last 25 yrs or so WE HAVENT HAD TO THROW IT PERIOD
You are a complete dumbass and I'm done with you...go ahead and write another book about what giles should and shouldn't do and who should play where...I will print it off and give it to our coach...I'm sure he would love your help dumbass
1. No, I should not coach. I never claimed to have "all" of the answers. I actually didn't know there was a "question" asked in the post to have answers. My friend, using words like "all, always, never," etc is a habit you need to break. It makes you look foolish and in academic circles, "not smart." Most of the time, all, always, and never does not fit, and only rarely do these words fit.
2. I love your old, "compare the coach to the message board poster" routine. Again, this is old. The fallacy is this and a common one you make, so let me call you out on it so once again, you can argue with facts, not fallacy in the future.
Coaches overwhelmingly know the most about their team that they coach.<---This is a fact.
The fallacy from the fact above that you make is.....Because coaches overwhelmingly know the most about their team, ANY and ALL fans who are not coaches automatically know very little about that team and to take the fallacy further, any and all fans who are not coaches don't really have a right to comment or critique the team.<This is your fallacy. Again, fallacies make you look foolish. Steer away from them.
3. Fact is....it's common knowledge across the state of Virginia that Giles doesn't throw it. One doesn't need to be a coach, doctor, janitor, lawyer, or firefighter to understand this. Additional facts, I am a Duke grad and have a daughter that plays soccer at Duke. I like the Devils in football and attend their camps, spring games, and a couple of home and aways every year. The kid from Giles was at the Duke camp. I was there for a day and one-half. Did you know that your coach WAS NOT at the Duke camp? Want to know where Green worked out at most of the camp at Duke? Like I wrote, at Defensive Tackle, but hey.....only a coach would know that, lol. Like I wrote......your a tool, and he's a Defensive Tackle at the next level, not a Tight End.
LMAO, over the last 25 years, we "HAVENT HAD TO THROW IT PERIOD." Ummmmm, that's false. Again, careful with all inclusive statements. Let me "use you" again and go back just 2 years to make a point. 2015, Glenvar felt you certainly needed to throw it when they stacked 8 in the box and walked 1 up at the snap with most of the plays in the game. Yea, by looking at the outcome, you actually DID NEED TO THROW IT, PERIOD. In 2016, Appo felt you should have thrown it, lol.....I take it back, it wouldn't have mattered.
You have become so rattled you have resulted to namecalling. Sadly, the only points I have made that have upset you are.......
1. Giles does not throw it much- a point you originally disagreed with, now have accidentally agreed in all caps.
2. The kid at Giles will play Defensive Tackle/Lineman at the next level.
Two simple points that the overwhelming percent of football fans (and yes, coaches in the area also) would likely and simply agree with "tool".
Some people are such idiots and love the attention...not mentioning any names...now on to the topic of the giles sophomore with posters that don't think,they know everything about everything
You are a tool, and now you have gone so far off topic that you are delusional in your "tool" like thinking. Hey, lets agree with your argument then, since I think.......your argument is...
1. Giles actually does pass a lot?
2. And....the Green kid is a natural Tight End at the major college level.
Ok, if those are your two points, then I got it. I'm ok with it. We can simply agree to disagree. My two points, and the only two points I have made have been....
1. Giles actually, does NOT pass a lot.
2. The Green kid will play on the defensive line at the next level.
Now, if someone having the opinion above is a "dumba%%"<----your word, or a "know it all," your word, then I guess I am a "know it all." In reality, I don't 'know it all" as we have not even discussed math, science, world capitals, or geography. We have only discussed two points instead of "all of it." I stand by my two. Giles throws it little and not often. The Green kid is a stud and will play DT at the next level and with that written, not to say he's not going to be a stud at TE at the high school level because he will be, but at the next level, a DT or DE. Rivals and 247 sports will verify that for you come about next September 2018 when you see "DT" or maybe, possible, "DE" beside his name on the recruiting networks.
I've read this entire post again and I don't see anywhere anybody is suggesting in anyway that Green may play tight-end at the next level. Simply posted he will be playing tight-end this season for Giles on offense. I think Giles was young on the offensive line last year and most starters are returning. Small schools in this area have most good players playing both ways. Green is too much of a talent to not be playing on offense. I've got no control over play calling, so I don't know if the coaching staff plan to use him much as a receiver in that position, or as we all figure, just a big blocking force in the run game. And BTW, I know of 2 Giles players that went on to start as wide receivers in college, "Dakota Schrader, and new Martinsville head coach, Nathan Tanner" . Just sayin.
Don't waste your time buddy...I don't even know who his team is and frankly don't care either..I'm sure he will write another 10,000 word useless reply lol
I see no where in this thread where the poster has a coherent argument. His only argument is, if you are not a coach, then don't comment on Green or Giles. Literally, that his is premise. That's a false premise. Regardless, I stand by my two points. Giles does not throw it much, and yes, the poster initially argued they kind of do throw it, then backed away from that. Additionally, Green is a d lineman at the next level. That's all. That's it. Nothing more. As for Dakota Schrader, unless something has changed, he plays or played DB at Bridgewater and not WR in college. As for Nathan Tanner, he was listed by the recruiting services as a RB and of course, I recall him racking up big yards while at Giles as a RB. If he played WR in college, it was small college, and he was moved to WR after he got there. Oh yea....."just sayin." Again, your response about WR's for Giles kind of even proves my point in that, you don't throw it much. I get it....you Giles fans love to take on those not from Giles or whatever your thing is, but please don't do it at the expense of sounding so stupid you will argue just for the sake of argument, especially when a poster states, "Giles doesn't throw it much. " For the love of God, just agree and then, argue about something else, but your disagreement just in order to disagree makes you look foolish.
Not about who my team is. You see, again, an irrelevant point to the conversation. I repeat and get you back on track, Giles doesn't throw it much. Green will be a defensive lineman in college. Do you disagree tool or do you need to ask your coach if the above is true before replying, lol?