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I see no where in this thread where the poster has a coherent argument. His only argument is, if you are not a coach, then don't comment on Green or Giles. Literally, that his is premise. That's a false premise. Regardless, I stand by my two points. Giles does not throw it much, and yes, the poster initially argued they kind of do throw it, then backed away from that. Additionally, Green is a d lineman at the next level. That's all. That's it. Nothing more. As for Dakota Schrader, unless something has changed, he plays or played DB at Bridgewater and not WR in college. As for Nathan Tanner, he was listed by the recruiting services as a RB and of course, I recall him racking up big yards while at Giles as a RB. If he played WR in college, it was small college, and he was moved to WR after he got there. Oh yea....."just sayin." Again, your response about WR's for Giles kind of even proves my point in that, you don't throw it much. I get it....you Giles fans love to take on those not from Giles or whatever your thing is, but please don't do it at the expense of sounding so stupid you will argue just for the sake of argument, especially when a poster states, "Giles doesn't throw it much. " For the love of God, just agree and then, argue about something else, but your disagreement just in order to disagree makes you look foolish.
I think Schrader was moved to wide out last year and started. Just overheard his dad telling someone that. Now, having never watch a single play of Bridgewater football in my life, I cannot confirm this with 100% positive accuracy. Still see nowhere in this entire post of anybody saying Green can or will play tight-end at the next level. Seems like that's been your big counter argument, although nobody on here suggested it.
 

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I think Schrader was moved to wide out last year and started. Just overheard his dad telling someone that. Now, having never watch a single play of Bridgewater football in my life, I cannot confirm this with 100% positive accuracy. Still see nowhere in this entire post of anybody saying Green can or will play tight-end at the next level. Seems like that's been your big counter argument, although nobody on here suggested it.

LOL, my argument, "nothing counter about it" but statement, call it an argument if you want is.....Giles doesn't throw it much. That was the primary argument that the poster chose not to discuss other than calling me names, personally attacking me, and asking me if I were a coach. All in all, he started off by arguing how Giles throws it, then backed away from the argument. From that point, the discussion was over. Game over. I had won. Equally imporant, when you gave your "disclaimer" about "completely reading the post" in an attempt to come off as a "fair and equal observer", lol, you didn't mention that you were in fact.....a Giles fan. Is that not somewhat equally imporant as well. LOL. Again, it shows how disingenuous you are and your attempt at looking "neutral" is foolish. Last key point, when I mentioned Green was a D line guy in college, the poster kept attacking and argued that I "knew nothing." Any person with a brain can deduce that....if poster A is making a point and poster B responds with verbal assaults, then poster B is not in agreement with poster A's point. So in summary, yes, the TOOL was disagreeing that Green will play DL in college. Additionally, I never wrote that Giles wouldn't line him up at TE. I have no idea about that. Don't really care either. Put him at QB for all I care. What I said was.....and I repeat....two points....He will play defensive line in college. It's irrelevant where he plays at Giles this year on offense. I don't care. Have no argument about it. Have no concern. He will play defense in college. Additionally, Giles still doesn't throw much.

Finally, whey you write the words, "nobody on here" suggested it, again, playing to the audience. There were two people in the conversation, me and tool from Giles. Nobody would seem to be...3, 4, 5, or 6 people. I couldn't care less what "nobody" suggests or doesn't suggest. I wrote he would play defense in college and was attacked for that. The offensive TE part is irrelevant.......you also know that, but are attempting to muddy the waters. Let me ask you and see if I can get a coherent and cogent answer from a Giles fan.

Over the years, has Giles passed it much? Compared to the teams it has played at its level across the State, Div 2/Class 2/AA, etc.
 

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Never said I wasn't a Giles guy. Just wondering why you were going on about no way, no how , Green would play tight end in college when nobody in any post on this thread suggested he would. I don't see anywhere on this thread where anybody suggests he would play any where but defense in college. Your main point now seems to be Giles doesn't throw much. Doubt it took much research to come up with that opinion. I counted 10 different posters on this thread, not just 2.
 
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Wow I sign up to discuss football since the season is about to begin and notice the giles thread so I read it and this is what I run into....wow
 

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LOL, my argument, "nothing counter about it" but statement, call it an argument if you want is.....Giles doesn't throw it much. That was the primary argument that the poster chose not to discuss other than calling me names, personally attacking me, and asking me if I were a coach. All in all, he started off by arguing how Giles throws it, then backed away from the argument. From that point, the discussion was over. Game over. I had won. Equally imporant, when you gave your "disclaimer" about "completely reading the post" in an attempt to come off as a "fair and equal observer", lol, you didn't mention that you were in fact.....a Giles fan. Is that not somewhat equally imporant as well. LOL. Again, it shows how disingenuous you are and your attempt at looking "neutral" is foolish. Last key point, when I mentioned Green was a D line guy in college, the poster kept attacking and argued that I "knew nothing." Any person with a brain can deduce that....if poster A is making a point and poster B responds with verbal assaults, then poster B is not in agreement with poster A's point. So in summary, yes, the TOOL was disagreeing that Green will play DL in college. Additionally, I never wrote that Giles wouldn't line him up at TE. I have no idea about that. Don't really care either. Put him at QB for all I care. What I said was.....and I repeat....two points....He will play defensive line in college. It's irrelevant where he plays at Giles this year on offense. I don't care. Have no argument about it. Have no concern. He will play defense in college. Additionally, Giles still doesn't throw much.

Finally, whey you write the words, "nobody on here" suggested it, again, playing to the audience. There were two people in the conversation, me and tool from Giles. Nobody would seem to be...3, 4, 5, or 6 people. I couldn't care less what "nobody" suggests or doesn't suggest. I wrote he would play defense in college and was attacked for that. The offensive TE part is irrelevant.......you also know that, but are attempting to muddy the waters. Let me ask you and see if I can get a coherent and cogent answer from a Giles fan.

Over the years, has Giles passed it much? Compared to the teams it has played at its level across the State, Div 2/Class 2/AA, etc.
To answer your question, There have been a couple of backs at Giles that were good passers. The Milton kid, in the mid 90's and the Cook kid in the mid 2000's. And Giles did win state both years when those 2 guys were seniors. Their coaches know when they have the talent to put it in the air a little and when they don't. A perfect game for Giles on any given Friday is to win without attempting a pass, and they've done that many times. Now as for passing teams in this area in A and AA ball, there are very few teams that throw a lot and very, very few that throw a lot and are successful year in and year out. Most of the teams down this way that run a spread, are still primarily running teams that like to spread the defense to open up running lanes. But throw enough that you have to spread the "D" to respect the pass. Other than maybe Richlands, can you name a small school in SWVA that throws a lot and has been successful.
 

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To answer your question, There have been a couple of backs at Giles that were good passers. The Milton kid, in the mid 90's and the Cook kid in the mid 2000's. And Giles did win state both years when those 2 guys were seniors. Their coaches know when they have the talent to put it in the air a little and when they don't. A perfect game for Giles on any given Friday is to win without attempting a pass, and they've done that many times. Now as for passing teams in this area in A and AA ball, there are very few teams that throw a lot and very, very few that throw a lot and are successful year in and year out. Most of the teams down this way that run a spread, are still primarily running teams that like to spread the defense to open up running lanes. But throw enough that you have to spread the "D" to respect the pass. Other than maybe Richlands, can you name a small school in SWVA that throws a lot and has been successful.

So, I am going to take your answers as.....Giles doesn't throw it much. We agree. That was my first point. I was comparing Giles to teams all across the state at their level, not just SWVA, but the answer is still the same, Giles doesn't throw it much. One concept of the spread different from the single wing is... The spread often uses the pass to open up the running games as much or more as....it uses the run to open up the passing game.

To answer your question, a small school in SWVA that throws a lot that has been successful. I would have to think about that. It depends on what we define as success and how long back are we talking, and what we define as throwing a lot. There are throwing it very little, throwing it some/balanced attack, and throwing a whole heck of a lot like Richlands. Bluefield High, WV, comes to mind with what I've heard as a very balanced attack and multiple state titles in the last 70 years. They are of course in West Virginia. Richlands for sure. Abindgon recently, the last 3-4 years has had some success, and I guess they are small enough. Overall, there have been few teams in SWVA that pass the ball much. George Wythe is one that actually has had a pretty balanced attack running and passing and having success, but that's about it outside of those four.
 

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I read this entire thread and nowhere did vabluedevill ever say giles threw the ball a lot and he also never said that Green would be playing TE in college....not once

And lookus after reading the thread you buddy are the one that started the name calling by calling him a "tool"...yes it was funny but you indeed started the childish name calling...them you complain he called you a dumbass

This thread is kinda funny...takes me back to 2nd grade lol
 

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Good luck to Giles on the season. Conversation over. I took him to the woodshed and even with the help of 2 Giles fans, ya lost. Hey, would it make you feel better if I told you my wife was from Glenvar? LOL. Seriously, good luck on the season and hopefully you guys "air it out" like always, but hey, lets not comment on that unless one is a "coach" or one that played for Giles, lol.
 

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You took him to the woodshed lol...sure ya did

And I doubt any giles fan cares where your wife is from to be honest...what does that have to do with anything?

Where you from I am just interested...not trying to start anything
 

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You took him to the woodshed lol...sure ya did

And I doubt any giles fan cares where your wife is from to be honest...what does that have to do with anything?

Where you from I am just interested...not trying to start anything

LOL. I wish your Spartans a solid season hokiebird01 and no need to further engage or answer "gotcha" questions. In summary, I repeat (a 7th time). The Green kid will play defensive line in college. Giles doesn't throw it much. That's it, nada, nothing more, the only two points I made originally and still at the end of the thread, two points that has 3 or 4 Giles fans upset for some reason. Either way, good luck on the season. Maybe you would feel better if I stated Green will not play defensive line in college and will play TE? Or maybe I should have wrote, Giles will put it up in the air early and often? I don't get it. No way to win with some, but either way, it's not my call or yours. Its the recruiters and the colleges call in that....he will play DLine in college, and facts say, Giles, and most other single wing offenses included don't put it in the air much. As always, I conclude each post getting back to the original two points and on track.
 

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You took him to the woodshed lol...sure ya did::)

And I doubt any giles fan cares where your wife is from to be honest...what does that have to do with anything?

Where you from I am just interested...not trying to start anything
Jusy drop it. This guy keeps saying he won the argument when nobody is a arguing with him on the points he keeps making. And he won't say where he's from. We are lucky. We come from a place where we are proud to back our team and have been for nearly 40 years
 

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Jusy drop it. This guy keeps saying he won the argument when nobody is a arguing with him on the points he keeps making. And he won't say where he's from. We are lucky. We come from a place where we are proud to back our team and have been for nearly 40 years

Yep and numerous state championships

And he just keeps harping on same ole garbage and not one person has said green won't play DT in college and not one person has said giles throws alot...but he harps over and over about it...and he thinks he won an argument where nobody is even arguing those points with him...I agree with other poster he really is a dumb@$$

But his wife is from glenvar hahaha
 

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No garbage. Green will play DL at next level. That's not garbage unless Duke and recruiting services are garbage, and....Giles doesn't throw it much. That's a fact. You have one fact and one that will be a fact in 2-3 years. Facts aren't "dumb." They are facts. 2+2 actually does equal 4, regardless of whether the response is calling the person who does the math a "dumbass" or yells or asks if you were a coach or where you are from. Facts always win arguments and opinions don't. But to get back on track to take the mud out of the water....my original points were..
1. Giles doesn't throw it much. Fact.
2. Green will play DL in college. Opinion right now, but soon to be fact.

For some reason, few Spartans fans are angered by the above two statements which truly are two common sense statements the overwhelming portion of fans, and likely including the Giles Coaching staff would agree with. By the way, the HC, a fairly close friend of mine I still speak with on e or twice a year in which I attended Church Camp with every summer for about 11 years in our youths. And....a smart man, great coach, but more important, a great Christian man that I like a lot.
 

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No garbage. Green will play DL at next level. That's not garbage unless Duke and recruiting services are garbage, and....Giles doesn't throw it much. That's a fact. You have one fact and one that will be a fact in 2-3 years. Facts aren't "dumb." They are facts. 2+2 actually does equal 4, regardless of whether the response is calling the person who does the math a "dumbass" or yells or asks if you were a coach or where you are from. Facts always win arguments and opinions don't. But to get back on track to take the mud out of the water....my original points were..
1. Giles doesn't throw it much. Fact.
2. Green will play DL in college. Opinion right now, but soon to be fact.

For some reason, few Spartans fans are angered by the above two statements which truly are two common sense statements the overwhelming portion of fans, and likely including the Giles Coaching staff would agree with. By the way, the HC, a fairly close friend of mine I still speak with on e or twice a year in which I attended Church Camp with every summer for about 11 years in our youths. And....a smart man, great coach, but more important, a great Christian man that I like a lot.

But again where did any giles fan EVER say green wouldn't play DL in college or where did any giles fan say we throw the ball alot?

Answer those 2 questions is all I ask...cause you can't

You will keep repeating the same garbage you repeat in every message you post

And you still haven't said who your team is....embarrassed?