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This may be an unpopular opinion, but I do not feel like SS should lose the Fed Ex Championship if he doesn't win the final tournament. Hear me out.
Current standings :
SS - 7456 points
Rory - 3687
JJ - 3493
Rose - 3326
He has a 3,769 point advantage over 2nd. ONE tournament should not erase a whole year of dominance. Now I was not a fan of "spotting" the leader 2 shots on the 2nd place guy, but say Rory wins and Scheffler finishes ,, say top 10, he shouldn't lose the title "Fed Ex Cup Champion" based off of ONE tournament finish. JMO. It is a points race based on an entire year, no way he should lose the 3,769 point lead because of ONE tournament. Especially if he plays well. Say he finishes 2nd at East Lake, I am not calling who ever wins the tournament, "champion". SS has earned it, even if he finished 30th (he won't). There has to be a better formula.
Current standings :
SS - 7456 points
Rory - 3687
JJ - 3493
Rose - 3326
He has a 3,769 point advantage over 2nd. ONE tournament should not erase a whole year of dominance. Now I was not a fan of "spotting" the leader 2 shots on the 2nd place guy, but say Rory wins and Scheffler finishes ,, say top 10, he shouldn't lose the title "Fed Ex Cup Champion" based off of ONE tournament finish. JMO. It is a points race based on an entire year, no way he should lose the 3,769 point lead because of ONE tournament. Especially if he plays well. Say he finishes 2nd at East Lake, I am not calling who ever wins the tournament, "champion". SS has earned it, even if he finished 30th (he won't). There has to be a better formula.
It's not an unpopular opinion. It's just that now things have changed. They give out money for regular season champ.
Those points then become essentially meaningless, other than to continue to allow those who had a good regular season the ability to advance to the next round.
Then, they give out money for the winner of the "survivor pool".
These are officially two separate issues,.
Those points then become essentially meaningless, other than to continue to allow those who had a good regular season the ability to advance to the next round.
Then, they give out money for the winner of the "survivor pool".
These are officially two separate issues,.
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A bit off topic, but I played golf one time with a pro (JB Holmes) in 2007 or so, when the FedEx Cup just started. His opinion was that any golfer on the PGA Tour would 10-1 rather win a major than the FedEx Cup, and if they said otherwise, they were FOS.
Of course, the money now has gotten really stupid, but OTOH, but if JJ Spaun happens to win this week, which one he is going to remember the most in 20 years, FedEx or the US Open?
A bit off topic, but I played golf one time with a pro (JB Holmes) in 2007 or so, when the FedEx Cup just started. His opinion was that any golfer on the PGA Tour would 10-1 rather win a major than the FedEx Cup, and if they said otherwise, they were FOS.
Of course, the money now has gotten really stupid, but OTOH, but if JJ Spaun happens to win this week, which one he is going to remember the most in 20 years, FedEx or the US Open?
That isn't anything new in regards to the trophy case or the memories. It's a major, and that means your name is on that list forever. However, for the majority of the field, this is life changing money, and it also sets them up for a long time in regards to exemptions. Just getting into the top 50 last week put them into all the signature events next year if they weren't already qualified.
It's a fun event, the course is amazing, and the players love it. It's a fantastic setup for the fans as well with great viewing spots. I will be there tomorrow and Sat. I will email you some pics.
It’s fine. Which doesn’t feel like it cuts it for a Tour championship. A rotation of classic venues seems more fitting. But somebody with clout wanted this at East Lake on a permanent basis.
It is not a challenging course. Put it back a couple tournaments, end with a more fair risk / reward course. Also, rotate the final host.
People like (no offense to Ricky Fowler), if he would have held on to the top 30 spot last week and won at East Lake, no damn way he should be Fed Ex champ over SS. NONE. Maybe something like make the final tournament winner get 5,000 points for a win, then guys could possibly pass SS, but only if he finished in the bottom 2 or 3. Once again, JMO. I could possibly get behind McIntyre or Rory passing SS if they won, maybe, they both have had very solid years, but only if SS finished at the bottom. If he places top 10 this week, nobody should pass him. 5 wins, 2 majors should not be ignored based off one tournament.
Nothing against guys like Jacob Bridgeman, Harry Hall, Akshay Bhatia, Sungjae Im, and Nick Taylor to name a few, but those guys and many others should not have a shot at winning Fed Ex Championship. Tommy Fleetwood, while having a solid year, hasn't won ONE tournament, and that could all be erased by winning the last ?????
People like (no offense to Ricky Fowler), if he would have held on to the top 30 spot last week and won at East Lake, no damn way he should be Fed Ex champ over SS. NONE. Maybe something like make the final tournament winner get 5,000 points for a win, then guys could possibly pass SS, but only if he finished in the bottom 2 or 3. Once again, JMO. I could possibly get behind McIntyre or Rory passing SS if they won, maybe, they both have had very solid years, but only if SS finished at the bottom. If he places top 10 this week, nobody should pass him. 5 wins, 2 majors should not be ignored based off one tournament.
Nothing against guys like Jacob Bridgeman, Harry Hall, Akshay Bhatia, Sungjae Im, and Nick Taylor to name a few, but those guys and many others should not have a shot at winning Fed Ex Championship. Tommy Fleetwood, while having a solid year, hasn't won ONE tournament, and that could all be erased by winning the last ?????
Another thing, if you skip a tournament you should face major ramifications. Only 3 tournaments to decide it, no way skipping one of them should entitle you to still be in the running. It was an advantage for Rory to skip Memphis, he is fresher than other guys who have been grinding. That will now change more than likely, but it wont be severe enough based on the format. The top 10 guys ALL should have passed Rory for skipping an event.
The Olympic Club where the 2025 US Amateur was held, would be a great venue for one of the Fed Ex Cup host. Several others. Give me variety. I though Caves Valley did an excellent job. There was risk / reward and very challenging venue. More so than East Lake.
The Olympic Club where the 2025 US Amateur was held, would be a great venue for one of the Fed Ex Cup host. Several others. Give me variety. I though Caves Valley did an excellent job. There was risk / reward and very challenging venue. More so than East Lake.
Yea I think the points should be in effect at East Lake as well. Players should know what they need before they tee off Thursday.
If SS knows he can finish T-5 and earn enough points to be Tour Champion, then so be it.
If #30 Bhatia gets hot this week and wins the tournament, he should not be Tour Champion.
But not sure how they gonna fix it.
If SS knows he can finish T-5 and earn enough points to be Tour Champion, then so be it.
If #30 Bhatia gets hot this week and wins the tournament, he should not be Tour Champion.
But not sure how they gonna fix it.
I can’t figure out who is more frustrating to watch. Harmon or Cantlay.
Cantlay stands over his shot for an ungodly amount of time.
i always love uninformed and moronic viewpoints such as this. Amusing.
Hilton Head vacation- really good deal is the Heritage Golf package. 3 days or 7 days unlimited golf. I chose the 3 day deal, which you can spread out over 5 days.
They have the 2 Palmetto Hall courses, 2 Port Royal, 3 nines at Shipyard and 18 at Oyster Reef. Courses in good shape.
They have the 2 Palmetto Hall courses, 2 Port Royal, 3 nines at Shipyard and 18 at Oyster Reef. Courses in good shape.
Just played at Sea Pines last week, Dunes and Heron, both also in great shape. My only complaint is that the guy who set the pins at AD must hate golfers, no. 14 (a short par 5) was probably the hardest pin I have seen all year, tucked way over to the left, on a 45 degree slope, very close to a shaved bank into a pond. Me and my friend were both <50 yards from green, and we both chipped into the water. If I ever play there again, with the pin in the same spot, will definitely not try to get it close, and the locals told me that they put the pin there regularly.
Love Atlantic Dunes. A much better layout than HT, but doesn't get near the press outside of the island.
Our yearly golf trip next year looks like it's going to St George UT in April. Anyone have any course recs if anyone's been out there?
St George is an absolute favorite of mine (we’ve gone during late March/Early April). Entrada GC is REALLY nice but I’m not sure if it requires a stay and play now.
Dixie Red Hills (9 holes) is challenging, was in great shape and stunningly gorgeous. We played it as the sun went down and the red cliffs/sandstone background was crazy. Would be a great warmup 9 for everyone the day they get there or a pre-dinner round.
Cousin is a starter down there. We will be putting together for something next spring. I have not played Heron, he lives on Heron, but agree AD is my favorite between AD and HT.
Heron is a little easier, and the two locals I played with (both older gentlemen, to be fair) preferred Heron. AD is a really good course though, and when I go back, will definitely play both again.
Never played Harbour Town, just can't see spending two or three times the money to do so. Might do it once, just to say I have, but only because it is a long time PGA venue.
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Reiterating comments in the thread, Saudis have plenty of money to sustain it, but will they be willing to continue to float it?
LIV is a joke and always has been.I still don't understand why the PGA thinks they need to merge at this point
It’s really hard to comprehend how the Saudis who do have an almost endless stream of money would still be ok with those kind of losses.
The LIV investment is 100% about getting a better name for themselves. They'll gladly pay to whitewash.
He had a L4-L5 disk replacement. My neighbor had the same thing done and was a new person after getting through the healing and rehab process. Plays often but to play at the highest level like Tiger is accustomed to is probably over but never discount that guy. IMO, at this point in his life he is only concerned about quality of life.
I am just generally following the last few events of the PGA year, to see who keeps their card, who ends up in the top 100, etc. I have to believe it is a very tough mental challenge to know that you are one of the very best golfers in the world (top 200-400), and yet still not quite good enough to really make a lot of money and be a top star.
When I was a walking scorer at the Barbasol, it was obvious that a lot of the guys (most of whom were in that 100-200 category) were tense and nervous, they were soooo close . . . but still pretty much on the outside looking in. Has to be a tough mental grind to keep working hard year after year (like I see Josh Teater doing locally, he is still out there on the range hitting balls and doing putting drills) in an effort to get to that top level. Everybody that ever played golf would love to be Scotty or Rory, but those guys are the unicorns, there are literally 1000 guys that are phenomenal players on an objective basis that just can't quite get there. I think it would eat at me for sure.
When I was a walking scorer at the Barbasol, it was obvious that a lot of the guys (most of whom were in that 100-200 category) were tense and nervous, they were soooo close . . . but still pretty much on the outside looking in. Has to be a tough mental grind to keep working hard year after year (like I see Josh Teater doing locally, he is still out there on the range hitting balls and doing putting drills) in an effort to get to that top level. Everybody that ever played golf would love to be Scotty or Rory, but those guys are the unicorns, there are literally 1000 guys that are phenomenal players on an objective basis that just can't quite get there. I think it would eat at me for sure.
This kid Brennan goes from qualifying fora KFT, via the Americas tour, to maybe locking up a card for two years with a win.
So, when the LIV stans mock the PGA, just know the PGA is funding all these tours like MLB. That takes a lot of money.