GOLF thread

Tskware

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Friend of mine worked the tournament as a walking scorer and said HCC did a great job of shaving the sides and front of greens, and then picking tricky pin positions, which made it a test for the pros. But not impossible as two different players shot 61. It looked like they had a good crowd on Sunday at least, from what I could tell on TV. I meant to attend at least one day, but could not make it work.

HCC also ideally located for the event, i.e., East end of Louisville on US 60 and Hurstbourne Lane within 5 miles of 300K or more upper middle class residents, as opposed to Champions, on a single country road in Jessamine County within 5 miles of 3K residents, half of which are farmers. HCC also has a great clubhouse facility. No doubt there is some cachet to hosting a PGA event, certainly helped Champions fill up its membership, and then some.

As golf fans, we ought to hope it stays there. Last year's field alone included JJ Spaun, US Open champ, Paul Waring, who won the Abu Dhabi HSBC championship last fall over the entire Euro Ryder Cup team, and Marco Penge, who just finished T2 with Rory at the Scottish Open. In short, you are certain to see topflight players, probably on their way up, so long as the ISCO stays in Louisville.

My only concern is how long the community will embrace the event, which is somewhat perceived as a minor league deal, given that the A teamers are overseas on TV that week. It lasted a few years in Alabama, 5 or 6 years at Champions, and so hopefully, it will stay at HCC for a good while. I heard the membership took a vote and taking the event passed by only a 60-40 margin, maybe they will change their mind, but you do have to give up your course for a couple of weeks in prime golf season, which was a big minus in the eyes of the Champions members.

PS: What set Adam Hadwin off on Friday? He hit a bad tee shot on #9, the par 3, and cut loose a stream of F bombs. I know he wasn't playing well, but he completely lost his ish on TV for all to see and hear.
 

Anon1751573686

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Friend of mine worked the tournament as a walking scorer and said HCC did a great job of shaving the sides and front of greens, and then picking tricky pin positions, which made it a test for the pros. But not impossible as two different players shot 61. It looked like they had a good crowd on Sunday at least, from what I could tell on TV. I meant to attend at least one day, but could not make it work.

HCC also ideally located for the event, i.e., East end of Louisville on US 60 and Hurstbourne Lane within 5 miles of 300K or more upper middle class residents, as opposed to Champions, on a single country road in Jessamine County within 5 miles of 3K residents, half of which are farmers. HCC also has a great clubhouse facility. No doubt there is some cachet to hosting a PGA event, certainly helped Champions fill up its membership, and then some.

As golf fans, we ought to hope it stays there. Last year's field alone included JJ Spaun, US Open champ, Paul Waring, who won the Abu Dhabi HSBC championship last fall over the entire Euro Ryder Cup team, and Marco Penge, who just finished T2 with Rory at the Scottish Open. In short, you are certain to see topflight players, probably on their way up, so long as the ISCO stays in Louisville.

My only concern is how long the community will embrace the event, which is somewhat perceived as a minor league deal, given that the A teamers are overseas on TV that week. It lasted a few years in Alabama, 5 or 6 years at Champions, and so hopefully, it will stay at HCC for a good while. I heard the membership took a vote and taking the event passed by only a 60-40 margin, maybe they will change their mind, but you do have to give up your course for a couple of weeks in prime golf season, which was a big minus in the eyes of the Champions members.

PS: What set Adam Hadwin off on Friday? He hit a bad tee shot on #9, the par 3, and cut loose a stream of F bombs. I know he wasn't playing well, but he completely lost his ish on TV for all to see and hear.
Only got to see a little bit of it.
How was the attendance?
Seemed to me less folks than were usually at Champions.
 

Tskware

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Only got to see a little bit of it.
How was the attendance?
Seemed to me less folks than were usually at Champions.
Friend said they had very few fans first day, but was much better on weekend. I only watched the Sunday round, and on the last few holes, seemed like they had a good crowd, better than last year for certain. Would be interested to see what ticket sales were like. I got on line and think they were $50-60 apiece, which seems aggressive for this kind of off event, especially in its first year in Louisville.
 

cole@854

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First round tee times in eastern time....

2025 Open Championship tee times, Thursday pairings​

1:35 a.m. — Padraig Harrington, Nicolai Højgaard, Tom McKibbin
1:46 a.m. — Louis Oosthuizen, Guido Migliozzi, K.J. Choi
1:57 a.m. — Cameron Smith, Marco Penge, Justin Hastings (a)
2:08 a.m. — Jason Day, Taylor Pendrith, Jacob Skov Olesen
2:19 a.m. — Phil Mickelson, Daniel van Tonder, Ryan Peake
2:30 a.m. — Max Greyserman, Byeong Hun An, Niklas Norgaard
2:41 a.m. — Jordan Smith, Haotong Li, Dustin Johnson
2:52 a.m. — Darren Clarke, Davis Riley, Lucas Herbert
3:03 a.m. — Kevin Yu, Julien Guerrier, Mikiya Akutsu
3:14 a.m. — Thomas Detry, Chris Gotterup, Lee Westwood
3:25 a.m. — Patrick Cantlay, Cameron Young, Mackenzie Hughes
3:36 a.m. — Thorbjorn Olesen, Matthew Jordan, Filip Jakubcik (a)
3:47 a.m. — Henrik Stenson, Stephan Jaeger, Sebastian Soderberg
4:03 a.m. — Kristoffer Reitan, Martin Couvra, Adrien Saddier
4:14 a.m. — Takumi Kanaya, Justin Walters, Bryan Newman (a)
4:25 a.m. — Hideki Matsuyama, Ryan Fox, Matt Fitzpatrick
4:36 a.m. — Sepp Straka, Ben Griffin, Akshay Bhatia
4:47 a.m. — Sam Burns, Aldrich Potgieter, Brooks Koepka
4:58 a.m. — Xander Schauffele, J.J. Spaun, Jon Rahm
5:09 a.m. — Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa, Scottie Scheffler
5:20 a.m. — Corey Conners, Wyndham Clark, Tom Hoge
5:31 a.m. — Denny McCarthy, Nico Echavarria, Patrick Reed
5:42 a.m. — Matti Schmid, Ryggs Johnston, Richard Teder (a)
5:53 a.m. — Dylan Naidoo, Darren Fichardt, John Axelsen
6:04 a.m — Justin Suh, Oliver Lindell, Jesper Sandborg
6:15 a.m. — Sadom Kaewkanjana, Riki Kawamoto, Sampson Zheng
6:26 a.m. — Stewart Cink, Matteo Manassero, Marc Leishman
6:47 a.m. — Francesco Molinari, Jesper Svensson, Connor Graham (a)
6:58 a.m. — Zach Johnson, Daniel Hillier, Daniel Brown
7:09 a.m. — Adam Scott, Rickie Fowler, Ethan Fang (a)
7:20 a.m. — Laurie Canter, Elvis Smylie, Sergio Garcia
7:31 a.m. — Andrew Novak, Matthieu Pavon, Matt Wallace
7:42 a.m. — Davis Thomopson, Dean Burmester, Rikuya Hoshino
7:53 a.m. — Si Woo Kim, Shugo Imahira, Sebastian Cave (a)
8:04 a.m. — Michael Kim, Bud Cauley, John Parry
8:15 a.m. — Matt McCarty, Shaun Norris, Angel Hidalgo
8:26 a.m. — Keegan Bradley, Sungjae Im, Daniel Berger
8:37 a.m. — Rasmus Højgaard, Christiaan Bezuidenhout, Romain Lagasque
8:48 a.m. — Aaron Rai, Sahith Theegala, Harry Hall
9:04 a.m. — Justin Leonard, Thriston Lawrence, Antoine Rozner
9:15 a.m. — J.T. Poston, Chris Kirk, Carlos Ortiz
9:26 a.m. — Brian Harman, Maverick McNealy, Joaquin Niemann
9:37 a.m. — Russell Henley, Tyrrell Hatton, Min Woo Lee
9:48 a.m. — Robert MacIntyre, Bryson DeChambeau, Justin Rose
9:59 a.m. — Jordan Spieth, Ludvig Åberg, Viktor Hovland
10:10 a.m. — Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas, Tommy Fleetwood
10:21 a.m. — Harris English, Nick Taylor, Tony Finau
10:32 a.m. — Lucas Glover, Jhonattan Vegas, Tom Kim
10:43 a.m. — Brian Campbell, John Catlin, Frazer Jones (a)
10:54 a.m. — Nathan Kimsey, Jason Kokrak, Cameron Adam (a)
11:05 a.m. — Daniel Young, Curtis Luck, Curtis Knipes
11:16 a.m. — Younghan Song, George Bloor, O.J. Farrell
 

cole@854

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Friday tee times in eastern time....


  • 1:35 a.m. — Stewart Cink, Matteo Manassero, Marc Leishman
  • 1:46 a.m. — Francesco Molinari, Jesper Svensson, Connor Graham (a)
  • 1:57 a.m. — Zach Johnson, Daniel Hillier, Daniel Brown
  • 2:08 a.m. — Adam Scott, Rickie Fowler, Ethan Fang (a)
  • 2:19 a.m. — Laurie Canter, Elvis Smylie, Sergio Garcia
  • 2:30 a.m. — Andrew Novak, Matthieu Pavin, Matt Wallace
  • 2:41 a.m. — Davis Thompson, Dean Burmester, Rikuya Hoshino
  • 2:52 a.m. — Si Woo Kim, Shugo Imahira, Sebastian Cave (a)
  • 3:03 a.m. — Michael Kim, Bud Cauley, John Parry
  • 3:14 a.m. — Matt McCarty, Shaun Norris, Angel Hidalgo
  • 3:25 a.m. — Keegan Bradley, Sungjae Im, Daniel Berger
  • 3:36 a.m. — Rasmus Hojgaard, Christiaan Bezuidenhout, Romain Langasque
  • 3:47 a.m. — Aaron Rai, Sahith Theegala, Harry Hall
  • 4:03 a.m. — Justin Leonard, Thriston Lawrence, Antoine Rozner
  • 4:14 a.m. — J.T. Poston, Chris Kirk, Carlos Ortiz
  • 4:25 a.m. — Brian Harman, Maverick McNealy, Joaquin Niemann
  • 4:36 a.m. — Russell Henley, Tyrrell Hatton, Min Woo Lee
  • 4:47 a.m. — Robert MacIntyre, Bryson DeChambeau, Justin Rose
  • 4:58 a.m. — Jordan Spieth, Ludvig Aberg, Viktor Hovland
  • 5:09 a.m. — Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas, Tommy Fleetwood
  • 5:20 a.m. — Harris English, Nick Taylor, Tony Finau
  • 5:31 a.m. — Lucas Glover, Jhonattan Vegas, Tom Kim
  • 5:42 a.m. — Brian Campbell, John Catlin, Frazer Jones (a)
  • 5:53 a.m. — Nathan Kimsey, Jason Kokrak, Cameron Adam (a)
  • 6:04 a.m. — Daniel Young, Curtis Luck, Curtis Knipes
  • 6:15 a.m. — Younghan Song, George Bloor, OJ Farrell
  • 6:26 a.m. — Padraig Harrington, Nicolai Hojgaard, Tom McKibbin
  • 6:47 a.m. — Louis Oosthuizen, Guido Migliozzi, K.J. Choi
  • 6:58 a.m. — Cameron Smith, Marco Penge, Justin Hastings (a)
  • 7:09 a.m. — Jason Day, Taylor Pendrith, Jacob Skov Olesen
  • 7:20 a.m. — Phil Mickelson, Daniel van Tonder, Ryan Peake
  • 7:31 a.m. — Max Greyserman, Byeong Hun An, Niklas Norgaard
  • 7:42 a.m. — Jordan Smith, Haotong Li, Dustin Johnson
  • 7:53 a.m. — Darren Clarke, Davis Riley, Lucas Herbert
  • 8:04 a.m. — Kevin Yu, Julien Guerrier, Mikiya Akutsu
  • 8:15 a.m. — Thomas Detry, Chris Gotterup, Lee Westwood
  • 8:26 a.m. — Patrick Cantlay, Cameron Young, Mackenzie Hughes
  • 8:37 a.m. — Thorbjorn Olesen, Matthew Jordan, Filip Jakubcik (a)
  • 8:48 a.m. — Henrik Stenson, Stephan Jaeger, Sebastian Soderberg
  • 9:04 a.m. — Kristoffer Reitan, Martin Couvra, Adrien Saddier
  • 9:15 a.m. — Takumi Kanaya, Justin Walters, Bryan Newman (a)
  • 9:26 a.m. — Hideki Matsuyama, Ryan Fox, Matt Fitzpatrick
  • 9:37 a.m. — Sepp Straka, Ben Griffin, Akshay Bhatia
  • 9:48 a.m. — Sam Burns, Aldrich Potgieter, Brooks Koepka
  • 9:59 a.m. — Xander Schauffele, J.J. Spaun, Jon Rahm
  • 10:10 a.m. — Scottie Scheffler, Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa
  • 10:21 a.m. — Corey Conners, Wyndham Clark, Tom Hoge
  • 10:32 a.m. — Denny McCarthy, Nico Echavarria, Patrick Reed
  • 10:43 a.m. — Matt Schmid, Ryggs Johnston, Richard Teder (a)
  • 10:54 a.m. — Dylan Naidoo, Darren Fichardt, John Axelsen
  • 11:05 a.m. — Justin Suh, Oliver Lindell, Jesper Sandborg
  • 11:16 a.m. — Sadom Kaewkanjana, Riki Kawamoto, Sampson Zheng
 
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CAT Scratch FVR

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If you’re a player with little ball flight, and have decent control, it would be fun To hit it 180-200 and let it run.
 

UK 82

Heisman
Feb 27, 2015
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Good timing. The Open should be wrapping up tomorrow at about the same time La Familia tips off.
 

ukalumni00

Heisman
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Feel like I am watching the 2000 US Open again. This is a really good field and Scottie is just toying with them. When he putts like this he cannot be beaten.
 
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Anon1751573686

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Ok golfers, I got a question.

My bunch (8-12) players, all with GHIN, play net double bogey. In other words, if you get a stroke on the hole, the worse score you can get is double plus your 1 stroke. So, if you are a 10 handicap, and you get 7 on the par 4, 14th handicap hole, you only right down a 6. If that hole was the 10th handicap hole, you would write down a 7. I have read this was created by the USGA to speed up play and stop sandbagging.

I am fine with this in regards to handicapping, but my bunch also uses this in gambling. We have several 20+ handicappers that may be hitting their 7th stroke 150 yards away from the stick, and put it in their pocket knowing they only have to write down net double. Several that may do this 3/4 times a round and end up winning money at the 19th hole. I may have a net double one time in 4/5 rounds.

So am I being a bad golfer buddy, or is it insane that my crew allows this to happen? I understand trying to make the game fair and competitive for all, but this gives the high handicapper an advantage when playing poorly. Gives anybody an advantage when playing poorly. The by far worse golfers in my group consistently win money.

Am I right or wrong?
 

mash_24

Heisman
Sep 26, 2011
8,353
25,354
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Does Scottie get to 11 Majors? Would make him pretty inarguably the 3rd best of all time. Hard for me to think of him that way but that’s exactly what he’s on track for. Is Gotterup now a good dark horse pick for Ryder Cup team?
 

ukalumni00

Heisman
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Does Scottie get to 11 Majors? Would make him pretty inarguably the 3rd best of all time. Hard for me to think of him that way but that’s exactly what he’s on track for. Is Gotterup now a good dark horse pick for Ryder Cup team?
That is an ish ton of majors especially with the quality of talent in the game today. If he does that he is undoubtedly a top 3 player IMO. Unlike Tiger, think he avoids a significant back injury and off the course drama that kept Tiger from the 20+ Majors he should have won.
 

TCPUKChamps

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Dec 18, 2002
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Ryder Cup Standings updated:

Highlights:
Russell Henley up to 4
Harris English up to 6

Thomas and Morikawa 7-8 and out of auto qualifying.

Keegan apparently already said Bryson will be on the team. He's currently 5th but no more points to be won by him.

 

AthensCatFan

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Nov 8, 2007
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Ok golfers, I got a question.

My bunch (8-12) players, all with GHIN, play net double bogey. In other words, if you get a stroke on the hole, the worse score you can get is double plus your 1 stroke. So, if you are a 10 handicap, and you get 7 on the par 4, 14th handicap hole, you only right down a 6. If that hole was the 10th handicap hole, you would write down a 7. I have read this was created by the USGA to speed up play and stop sandbagging.

I am fine with this in regards to handicapping, but my bunch also uses this in gambling. We have several 20+ handicappers that may be hitting their 7th stroke 150 yards away from the stick, and put it in their pocket knowing they only have to write down net double. Several that may do this 3/4 times a round and end up winning money at the 19th hole. I may have a net double one time in 4/5 rounds.

So am I being a bad golfer buddy, or is it insane that my crew allows this to happen? I understand trying to make the game fair and competitive for all, but this gives the high handicapper an advantage when playing poorly. Gives anybody an advantage when playing poorly. The by far worse golfers in my group consistently win money.

Am I right or wrong?
We play similar, but a true double beats a pocket whatever. You pick up, you can't win/tie the hole.
 

Tskware

Heisman
Jan 26, 2003
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Current Ryder Cup odds:

US -150
Eur +130

Would definitely bet Europe with those odds, but the home field advantage does seem daunting
 

Catman100

Heisman
Jan 3, 2003
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10,188
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Surprised on the lack of input on the gambling and net double bogey scenario.

Let's try this one:
Happy Gilmore 2
Have heard it is awesome, and heard it sucks.
What say you?