Good or Bad: Sidney Staying Home

TXDawg.sixpack

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Wardlaw just posted that Sidney has decided to forego the trip to Europe and, instead, go back to Houston to continue his workouts with Lucas.

Part of me would rather him be with the team, gaining on-court experience. However, I also understand that he's far less likely to get in trouble in Houston (no brawls with teamates) and will likely have much better practices & conditioning with Lucas.

Thoughts?</p>
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Wardlaw just posted that Sidney has decided to forego the trip to Europe and, instead, go back to Houston to continue his workouts with Lucas.

Part of me would rather him be with the team, gaining on-court experience. However, I also understand that he's far less likely to get in trouble in Houston (no brawls with teamates) and will likely have much better practices & conditioning with Lucas.

Thoughts?</p>
 

Dawgzilla

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I would much rather Sidney be travelling and playing with the team. Perhaps the NSA didn't want to risk an international incident.
 

TDawg52

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My gut feeling tells me that Stans was not totally pleased with Sidney's progress in Houston over the summer. So, no trip overseas. Probably told him he was not going over seas or sitting on his a$$ in Starkville while they are gone. Only option, back to Houston...
 

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WTF is that about? Why are players dictating if they participate or not?!?!

If a player transfers and is sitting out, they cant travel, so yeah that makes sense to stay home. If a player is injured, then staying home makes sense because they cant play and would need to rehab.

But our best player who NEEDS game style competition against others isnt even going on the trip and it was his decision?
Does that happen anywhere else with elite players? Did OJ Mayo decide he wasnt going to Mexico with USC? HELL NO! Did Hansbrough decide to not go to Ireland last year? HELL NO.

1- If Sidney is really the one that made this decision, then i am back to hating how Stans runs his program and he is once again a little *****.
2- If Sidney didnt make the decision and is just saying he did, then i am back to hating how much of a POS he has seemed to be.
 

basedog

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I looks and sounds bad. Just wow but it should not be a surprise as the basketball program with Sidney goes on like "Days of our life".....
 

patdog

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I'm not convinced we wouldn't have been better off if we'd never signed him. This season is starting out just like last year did. You've got Sidney, and then you've got everybody else (and I'm not saying that the rest of the team has been all that unified either). We'd all heard how much Sidney has worked and how he's got his head in a better place, and then this happens.
 

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sidney does not lack the skills to play basketball .. he doesn't necessarily "need" the PT, like saya true freshman would. In order for Sid to contribute more to our team this year he needs to keep losing weight, so he can get more PT and get up and down the floor more, get more rebounds and get more points.He needs to GRIND HARDDDDD this summer.

and somewhat related tangential topic: I was pissed at Stansbury for letting Jarvis going over to Asia to play the summer before his Senior year. It was obvious, especially after Jarvis got knocked around on the block by Washington's forward (brockton?) in the first round, that Jarvis needed to put on weight. So what did he and Stans do? they sent his *** to Asia where he LOST weight. Everyone except for Stans knew that JV needed to put on some pounds, yet he was shipping to Asia to eat rice and water.
 

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TDawg52 said:
My gut feeling tells me that Stans was not totally pleased with Sidney's progress in Houston over the summer. So, no trip overseas. Probably told him he was not going over seas or sitting on his a$$ in Starkville while they are gone. Only option, back to Houston...
It is going to be interesting to see if he does what he needs to do. I do know the European kid is on campus and is waiting on clearance. Not sure if he can travel or not but if he does, that will give him and others a lot more minutes.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...no need to read anything into this, since the trip is nothing but a glorified vacation with a little inconvenient basketball exhibition tossed in to justify the cost of the trip.


I'll just wait for missouridawg to show up in this thread & explain how Sidney not making this trip is just another sign the Miss. State basketball program is a monumental disaster of historical proportions.
 

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Dawgbreeze said:
TDawg52 said:
My gut feeling tells me that Stans was not totally pleased with Sidney's progress in Houston over the summer. So, no trip overseas. Probably told him he was not going over seas or sitting on his a$$ in Starkville while they are gone. Only option, back to Houston...
It is going to be interesting to see if he does what he needs to do. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I do know the European kid is on campus and is waiting on clearance.</span> Not sure if he can travel or not but if he does, that will give him and others a lot more minutes.
How is he on campus if he is playing in the U20 European Championships this weekend?

Mareks Mejeris
 

Frances Drebin

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You don't think there's value in getting a couple of extra weeks of practice time allowed? That's why teams take trips like this, not for the vacation. Heck, they don't even do it for the games. It's for the extra practice time.

It's big that Sidney isn't there. It's a setback.
 

missouridawg

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but until the real reason why Sidney is not going to Eurpoe comes out, I'll refrain from comment.

And no, our baskeball program hasn't been "a monumental disaster of historical proportions".. but it has been a complete cluster17 andnationaljokefor about the last 3 years.

You've got to be mentally handicapped to not understand that there are some major changes going on in our basketball program right now.</p>
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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From Sidney in Marcello's Blog:

<font color="#ff0000">"Everybody has their own opinion but I’m doing what I have to do,” Sidney told The Clarion-Ledger. “There’s nothing else going on. They can say what they want to say but, like I said, I know what I have to do basketball-wise. I wasn’t ready to go and I felt like I really wasn’t in shape. I wanted to come back down here and get some more work.”
</font>
Sounds like the selfish, "me first" attitude is in full force. He should be in Europe with the rest of the team.
 

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Which one will have the biggest gap between the hype and the flop? For MSU fans, it has to be a close call.

Personally, I never was too concerned about Y2K, but the hype versus the flop seems about the same.

As an MSU basketballfan, the last time I was this disappointed was when I watched Bender beat Michael Jordan's scoring record in the McDonald's Allstar game. I can remember watching Bender go off in that game and telling my wife to go ahead and make plans to attend the Sweet 16 and the Final 4 the following year. I even looked up the dates and held them open on my calendar to make sure my work schedule would not prevent me from attending all those games the follwoing year.

I will be absolutely stunned if Sidney does notgo down in MSU basketball history as one of the biggest flops EVER! I am starting to think this year's team would be better off if we would just kick him off the team and make plans to play without him. We obviously wouldbetter withSidneyin shape and ready to play, but I don't think that will ever happen.

Perhaps that is the thought process behind playing in Europe without him.

I say instead of Houston, we should send Sidney to stay with Marcus Bullard from now until school starts. That may be the motivation he needs.</p>
 

MeridianDog

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He said that it was the best place for HIM.

Fortunately the better he can look for the Pro scouts, the better he will look on the court for us. I say that wherever he is for the next few weeks is fine as long as he loses some more weight and gets some more conditioning.

He needs an Adkins high protein (no carb) program. In three weeks, he could peel off 15 pounds if I could run his training table and keep him from ordering Papa John's at night. If I could call the shots during the day, he would wear out a pair of shoes, he would have run so much. He needs to get to the point where he can run the court fifty times and still touch the rim each time he completes a lap.
 

basedog

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I said when we signed him it wasn't gonna be good, not because he isn't talented but the baggage he comes with and what baggage he has shown us!
You are right about the team and then there is Sidney, I'm just sick and tired of all of this drama every year. Gotta think this is Sidney's last straw with Stans, if not then it should be Stan's last straw, just way to much bad crap with lack of team chemistry and way to much negative stuff with Stans and the player(s) each year.

When is the last year we had a team w/o any drama I can't remember?
 

Johnson85

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We want him in Houston, getting the instruction and work out he is getting. Yes, it says something about the program that this is the case, but that's the situation we're in, so might as well be glad he's getting his *** worked out in Houston.

It would be nice for him to be in Europe getting a feel for his team mates, but he is already skilled and I think he will be able to figure it out in non-conference (assuming he avoids getting suspended).

If it comes out that this is a result of him not keeping up in his conditioning and having to stay in Houston because he is behind, then we will know that it's time to start dialing back expectations.
 

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sidney does not lack the skills to play basketball .. he doesn't necessarily "need" the PT, like say a true freshman would. In order for Sid to contribute more to our team this year he needs to keep losing weight, so he can get more PT and get up and down the floor more, get more rebounds and get more points. He needs to GRIND HARDDDDD this summer.
How much more weight could he possiblyloseintwo weeksby staying here instead of going on the trip and practicing with the team and playing 5 games in about 10 days, potentially building team chemistry (something as lacking as his conditioning last year)?
 

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Lets see...So basically he is going to miss playing in a couple of games against European opponents and building chemistry with his teammates. I am not saying this wouldn't help him, but at the same time it really is only a couple of games.

He will practice with the team before the season starts and then you know we will have some exhibition games to get the team ready. As long as this isn't something bigger, like him staying in Houston and not coming back to the team, I can't see this being real detrimental once the actual season starts. 10 additional days working with Lucas could do some good for the RSS both conditioning wise and skill wise.

**Edited because I didn't realize he was already back in Houston per Locke's blog.

However, didn't he enroll in July summer school classes? So, if he was in class, did he just decide to drop them and go back to Houston
 

dawgoneyall

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inform Sidney that it might be best for all concerned if he remained in Houston.

Double 17 him. Any NBA team willing to draft this piece of crap should and will get just what they deserve.
 

Dawgbreeze

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But since I am not a journalist like you, I didn't check any more sources. I was just told he was there but couldn't enroll to the fall.
 

Dawgbreeze

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But since I am not a journalist like you, I didn't check any more sources. I was just told he was there but couldn't enroll to the fall.
 

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Someone I know was invited to attend a conference for a non-work related group. It would involve taking time off from work, traveling, hotel, etc. Not sure how much would be paid by the group. You might be thinking "just take vacation days and go", but it's not that simple. My friend doesn't need permission to take time off and go, but does need management to understand that their involvement with this group doesn't and wouldn't conflict in any way with their job or the company. There might be some sort of legal jargon involved, might not, not sure. But better safe than sorry. In fact, there's a good chance that what's learned at this conference could be beneficial to their job. The employer has nothing to do with it, but has at least given some sort of blessing for it.

So maybe Sidney met with Stans and said he wanted to train more with Lucas, thinking it would be better for him and he can take any lessons and use them when he gets back with the team. Stans may not be 100% in agreement, but also is not disagreeing with it and gave an understanding acceptance.

Maybe Stans wants to send Sid a message and is making him do this, while spinning it to make it seem like it's Sid's idea.

Then again, maybe Sid took a **** in Grant's new office.

Call me a sheep, but I'll keep a cautious positive outlook on this. Until we lose to Tennessee Mime Tech.

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patdog

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megadawgmaniac said:
Call me a sheep,
You're a sheep. Even in the most sheepist scenario, this is bad. Just the fact that Sidney STILL isn't in shape is bad. And unless we're totally lying and this was Stans's idea and not Sidney's, Stans has sent a terrible message to the whole team that the players can decide what they want to do and what they don't want to do.