Grayson Allen
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Just cause coach k looks like s choir boy, does not mean he is. I would see him vein popping pissed off.
Why?
He was given a T. What else should happen if a player trips someone? Yes I know he does it frequently but he gets a tech each time.
He was given a T. What else should happen if a player trips someone? Yes I know he does it frequently but he gets a tech each time.
Because it has to do with player safety....
Players get suspended all the time for for stuff that they were penalized for during the game. I've seen players get suspended for things they WERE NOT penalized for during the game.
This isn't the same as getting a technical for cussing an official or taunting and opponent. This is an individual who has made a habit of purposeful egregious behavior that has a high possibility of seriously injuring somebody and he has proven unwilling to cut it out. A message must be sent to demonstrate to him how serious this is and that it will not be tolerated. I would suspend him for a few games with a zero tolerance policy going forward. If if happens again he's gone for the year. One more after that and he is gone for good.
Players get suspended all the time for for stuff that they were penalized for during the game. I've seen players get suspended for things they WERE NOT penalized for during the game.
This isn't the same as getting a technical for cussing an official or taunting and opponent. This is an individual who has made a habit of purposeful egregious behavior that has a high possibility of seriously injuring somebody and he has proven unwilling to cut it out. A message must be sent to demonstrate to him how serious this is and that it will not be tolerated. I would suspend him for a few games with a zero tolerance policy going forward. If if happens again he's gone for the year. One more after that and he is gone for good.
Agreed. I went to high school with JJ Reddick and he could flat out shoot. He was hitting shots just past half court during the state championship game.
You can tell that college basketball ratings on ESPN must be really down for ESPN to stir up a stupid controversy like this.
If this happened at any SEC school not named Kentucky, you would never eve hear about it. Not the slightest cricket noise.
I hope Allen sweeps the leg next time. What a dumb conversation & meaningless act that has been manufactured into a national story
If this happened at any SEC school not named Kentucky, you would never eve hear about it. Not the slightest cricket noise.
I hope Allen sweeps the leg next time. What a dumb conversation & meaningless act that has been manufactured into a national story
I agree. I find it funny that a lot of talking heads go after this harder than domestic abuse. He tripped a guy. The fact it's a snotty nosed Duke player makes everyone pile on. Again, he tripped someone. Big whoop. It's about like missing practice IMO. A total non story that get blown into something bigger than it should be just because it's EASY content and everyone is comfortable talking about it.
In today's environment littered with much more serious issues, I find it hard to even care about this story.
In today's environment littered with much more serious issues, I find it hard to even care about this story.
Well, because he does it 'frequently,' Duke Basketball, Duke AD, Duke University AND Grayson could all be considered negligent and liable if he ends up actually hurting another player.
Good grief
It wasn't flagrant foul. They guy didn't even fall over. Much physically harder fouls happen all the time during the course of the game. Should you be suspended if you commit a foul in back to back games?
It wasn't flagrant foul. They guy didn't even fall over. Much physically harder fouls happen all the time during the course of the game. Should you be suspended if you commit a foul in back to back games?
He's being treated unfairly. I don't like Duke or Grayson Allen, but Good Lord all he did was trip someone. Is it dirty ? Yes. Is he at risk of permanently hurting someone? Probably not. Suspend him one game and be done with it.
If you don't think he's being unfairly singled out then tell me the last time Draymond Green served an "indefinite suspension"
If you don't think he's being unfairly singled out then tell me the last time Draymond Green served an "indefinite suspension"
Any reason you chose those particular players? I mean there have been a ton of great players at Duke over the years.
It's the third time he's done it. It's not a part of the game of basketball. Happy to see Duke cave to the pressure and suspend him. It's obvious from his reaction on the bench that he still has not idea what he's doing is wrong.
I'm not getting my panties in a wad over a trip. I grade this way below a "hard foul" in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather be tripped than smashed going up for a layup. I'm sure there are college players that have leveled people going for a layup more times that Grayson Allen has tripped someone. No one is calling for their head.
Hell, his crybaby reaction was worse than the actual act.
Hell, his crybaby reaction was worse than the actual act.
Hard fouls are a part of basketball and happen every day. As a basketball player you expect them. The tripping is just something you don't do because it's not a part of the game. And you especially don't do it over and over, then throw a temper tantrum when you're caught.
Hard fouls are part of the game,
tripping is chickenshit. And yeah, his reaction is what's causing the reaction. Anyone over, say, 8 years old? acting like that deserves whatever comes his way.
eta: missed Faust's earlier post. I would add that there is a difference between a flagrant intentional and a hard foul, but mostly in the execution.
tripping is chickenshit. And yeah, his reaction is what's causing the reaction. Anyone over, say, 8 years old? acting like that deserves whatever comes his way.
eta: missed Faust's earlier post. I would add that there is a difference between a flagrant intentional and a hard foul, but mostly in the execution.
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But why are hard fouls part of the game? A hard foul is a foul that is committed on purpose with the intent of physically stopping the other player from doing something. This is defined so as to differentiate from another type of foul that is also committed on purpose to simply stop the clock for a variety of reasons.
Hard fouls cause bruising, contusions, cuts, etc from the act of being hit and from how/where the person falls.
Really, why are hard fouls 'just part of the game'?
I played competitively on travel teams growing up and still play in competitive rec leagues and the 'hard foul' has never actually made sense.
If you dont want a player to possible score and they beat you to a spot, a simple wrap up both physically stops them AND keeps them from the abuse of a hard foul. Hard fouls have intent to foul and stop movement of a player which can lead to injury.
Hard fouls in basketball are like fist fights in hockey. They simply arent necessary and continue to exist because people involved cite a dumb reason for their existence- its part of the game.
To me
It's the difference between a hard foul that occurs as a result of defending in the lane, especially if I have position, and an intentional foul. Intentional fouls are like pornography, you know it when you see it. Tripping will always be chickenshit, agreed?
It's the difference between a hard foul that occurs as a result of defending in the lane, especially if I have position, and an intentional foul. Intentional fouls are like pornography, you know it when you see it. Tripping will always be chickenshit, agreed?
Yeah, that's the difference in a hard foul. It's a basketball play made to attempt to prevent a score. The chickenshit trip serves no purpose.
Because hard fouls happen....
The dividing line is intent. A hard intentional foul should be treated similarly.
In any case, when someone fouls you hard, intentional or not, its generally expected and you hopefully adjust. Tripping is just a punk move. The problem is he keeps doing it like its a part of his game. For sure it should be a flagrant 2.
The dividing line is intent. A hard intentional foul should be treated similarly.
In any case, when someone fouls you hard, intentional or not, its generally expected and you hopefully adjust. Tripping is just a punk move. The problem is he keeps doing it like its a part of his game. For sure it should be a flagrant 2.
Would love for someone to just come down court full speed and just put a shoulder into his chest. Even better if they left their feet to do it. He needs that done a few times. But would take a scrub to do it. Anyone doing that against a duke player would probably be dismissed from the team (on Duke/K's orders).
And no one mentioned that some in the media are making a point to say that he's not being called a thug. That's reserved for players that look a little different.
And no one mentioned that some in the media are making a point to say that he's not being called a thug. That's reserved for players that look a little different.
Because he's a crybaby *****.
This isnt about tripping. Its about throwing a four year old coniption fit when you get a tech for it the third 17ing time.
This moronic "thats just a hard foul" **** in the rest of this thread is an indication that folks are just 17ing idiotic.
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