I'm sure this has been posted about 1,000 times but i need some input...
*everything after 1941-(don't play the national championship card.)
*everything after 1941-(don't play the national championship card.)
Greatest moment in mississippi state history.
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I'm sure this has been posted about 1,000 times but i need some input...
*everything after 1941-(don't play the national championship card.)
*everything after 1941-(don't play the national championship card.)
if state couldve pulled that one out then the final four would've have been almost a gimme. Callipari is a cheater though so i guess we can only look at what might have been...</p>
Fumble recovery in the 6-3 win over Bama and Burke Masters grand slam to beat Florida state.
Very CLOSE behind is the win over UC to go to the final four and the kick, pick, kick in the 1999 egg bowl.
Very CLOSE behind is the win over UC to go to the final four and the kick, pick, kick in the 1999 egg bowl.
it was easily Memphis's toughest game until the championship. Despite the loss, there was some damn good basketball played in that game.
I was actually at the game. With the way our defense had played all year, including that game, I thought we had just won the SEC CG. Lo' and behold, I was too young to have experienced enough MSU sports to know that it is literally never over till its over.
I'm so jaded now that I wasn't even celebrating when we ran it down inside the 5 yard line on LSU in Mullen's first year. I actually cussed out my father for trying to high-five me.... sadly, I was correct and we all know how those last 4 plays went.
I'm so jaded now that I wasn't even celebrating when we ran it down inside the 5 yard line on LSU in Mullen's first year. I actually cussed out my father for trying to high-five me.... sadly, I was correct and we all know how those last 4 plays went.
100 years from now, after you & I are long dead, Miss. State will be remembered as the first SEC school to hire an African-American as football head coach.
That probably sounds like politically correct drivel to you, but it will mean something to your grandchildren.
And nobody will give a crap what Croom's record was.
That probably sounds like politically correct drivel to you, but it will mean something to your grandchildren.
And nobody will give a crap what Croom's record was.
first of all, his firing did nothing for us. Just like Jackie's firing did nothing for us. It was the entrance of Byrne that led to an excellent coaching search and subsequently the best coaching hire that we could land.
I hated the Croom teams as much as the next guy, but in hindsight, I think his hiring was a pivotal moment in MSU history. Perceptions of MSU changed regionally and nationally. He has gotten kids to want to represent their state instead of fleeing to a big-time program. MSU made a bold move that no one expected us to make (and that no other SEC would make themselves). MSU open a lot of people eyes the day we hired Croom. In actuality, his hiring could be argued as one of the most pivotal moments in MSU history.
ETA: This post is entirely contradictory in saying that Jackie's firing did nothing for us, then arguing that the croom hire was actually a pivotal moment.... but I think you get what I was trying to say.
I hated the Croom teams as much as the next guy, but in hindsight, I think his hiring was a pivotal moment in MSU history. Perceptions of MSU changed regionally and nationally. He has gotten kids to want to represent their state instead of fleeing to a big-time program. MSU made a bold move that no one expected us to make (and that no other SEC would make themselves). MSU open a lot of people eyes the day we hired Croom. In actuality, his hiring could be argued as one of the most pivotal moments in MSU history.
ETA: This post is entirely contradictory in saying that Jackie's firing did nothing for us, then arguing that the croom hire was actually a pivotal moment.... but I think you get what I was trying to say.
the most qualified person for any job was a bad thing. And please tell me more about this quantum leap in recruiting Croom`s hiring lead to. I guess I missed that.
Please give me evidence to support your claim that Croom made players want to represent their state instead of jumping ship to a bigger program. I'm not saying he didn't encourage that, but I think players want to play for a coach that knows how to win first and foremost, and Croom didn't help us at all. Besides the one good class he was instrumental in putting together (after a winning season), I can't think of any other top-tier players that stayed in State with the exception of Pegues and Sherrod.</p>
we had actually gotten some pretty good players to campus. yes there were gaping holes (QB) but overall our talent level has been surprising.
That sucks for you. I know this conversation with you is not going to go anywhere, but I do have one last question...
In the terms that you are thinking, Why wasn't the Felker firing more significant than the Croom firing? His MSU coaching resume is more craptastic than Croom's yet his firing led to the hiring of the Kang, who brought about the "golden years" of MSU football and our lone SEC west champion ship (not too mention several big-time teams and bowls). If a coach being fired should be anywhere in this discussion (which it shouldn't), then it would seem the Felker firing would trump the Croom firing at this point.
Croom has been gone for 3 years... it's time for you to let it go.
In the terms that you are thinking, Why wasn't the Felker firing more significant than the Croom firing? His MSU coaching resume is more craptastic than Croom's yet his firing led to the hiring of the Kang, who brought about the "golden years" of MSU football and our lone SEC west champion ship (not too mention several big-time teams and bowls). If a coach being fired should be anywhere in this discussion (which it shouldn't), then it would seem the Felker firing would trump the Croom firing at this point.
Croom has been gone for 3 years... it's time for you to let it go.
Now, I don't consider State hiring Jackie Sherrill to be the "greatest moment in MSU history" as seen by non-MSU people, but I do think it was one of the most important events in MSU's athletic history.
Even though some of what Sherrill accomplished was undone by Croom, Jackie showed us what was possible at lil ol MSU--multiple bowls, winning SEC records in multiple seasons, a 10-2season,and of course,anSEC West Championship. Dan Mullen knows how important Sherrill was/is to MSU--witness Dan Mullen consulting with Sherrill inMulle first couple years here.
Next would be the hiriingof Ron Polk. Took MSU baseball to higher heights than any other MSU coach in any other sport, andhelped improve the status of all of college baseball.I would put him below the hiring of Sherrill because football>baseball, Sherrill's success was more recent than Polk's, and Polk's waning years lasted longer than Sherrill's.
Even though some of what Sherrill accomplished was undone by Croom, Jackie showed us what was possible at lil ol MSU--multiple bowls, winning SEC records in multiple seasons, a 10-2season,and of course,anSEC West Championship. Dan Mullen knows how important Sherrill was/is to MSU--witness Dan Mullen consulting with Sherrill inMulle first couple years here.
Next would be the hiriingof Ron Polk. Took MSU baseball to higher heights than any other MSU coach in any other sport, andhelped improve the status of all of college baseball.I would put him below the hiring of Sherrill because football>baseball, Sherrill's success was more recent than Polk's, and Polk's waning years lasted longer than Sherrill's.
... it has to be the 04 upset of Florida. Jerious Norwood's run at the end was one for the ages.
Short of winning the SEC Championship in 1998 against Tennessee, had we done so, there's no single football game we've been in that can compare. Single football games are huge, but the Final Four run stands out because of how long we held dispassionate viewers' attention. Beating No. 1 Kentucky in New Orleans in the SECT final on CBS in front of every viewer who'd tuned in to watch the NCAA tournament selection show got it started, then every step added it to. The VCU team whose coach said he couldn't recruit height so he recruited width, then Princeton and Coach Carill's last game on the heels of their having upset UCLA helped make the moment last weeks instead of hours.
As much as I don't care about NCAA basketball, there is NO DOUBT that makingtheFinal Four was the greatest moment in MSU history.<div>
</div><div>The problem with NCAA football is that you only get attention on Saturday, then you are swamped by the NFL on Sunday and Monday. Then people are talking about next week matchups.</div><div>
</div><div>Final Four teams get almost exclusive coverage for anentireweek and there reallyisn'tanything to battle it. </div>
</div><div>The problem with NCAA football is that you only get attention on Saturday, then you are swamped by the NFL on Sunday and Monday. Then people are talking about next week matchups.</div><div>
</div><div>Final Four teams get almost exclusive coverage for anentireweek and there reallyisn'tanything to battle it. </div>
The biggest single moment may have been the day Dontae Jones got eligible, or at least one day toward the end of the season, maybe even during the SEC Tourney, that Jones decided he would play to his potential.<div>
</div><div>This one guy, who was only here for one season, brought enough confidence with him to school that it spilled over to everyone else -- other players, coaches, the fans, and I think even other MSU teams. He knew he was a badass, and once he started playing hard, he had Damp and Wilson and the others convinced that they could beat anybody. Yes he was an outstanding talent basketball-wise, but I really believe his attitude (read: cockiness) was just as or more important to that team.</div><div>
</div><div>I think that was when people started to think differently about the potential of State teams to compete nationally. I know it made me think that we should be able to beat anyone. I think I remember correctly that later that year, the football team beat Bama for the first time in like 16 seasons. Sherrill knew it could be done, but I'm not sure before that anybody else believed him before Dontae went out and proved it.</div>
</div><div>This one guy, who was only here for one season, brought enough confidence with him to school that it spilled over to everyone else -- other players, coaches, the fans, and I think even other MSU teams. He knew he was a badass, and once he started playing hard, he had Damp and Wilson and the others convinced that they could beat anybody. Yes he was an outstanding talent basketball-wise, but I really believe his attitude (read: cockiness) was just as or more important to that team.</div><div>
</div><div>I think that was when people started to think differently about the potential of State teams to compete nationally. I know it made me think that we should be able to beat anyone. I think I remember correctly that later that year, the football team beat Bama for the first time in like 16 seasons. Sherrill knew it could be done, but I'm not sure before that anybody else believed him before Dontae went out and proved it.</div>
