Greg Schiano... Juuuuuuust Doooooooo It!!!!

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Keep Schiano away from Rutgers. He's an average to below average coach and Rutgers has direct experience.

College football's KING of Soft and Easy OOC schedules
28-48 in the Big East
12 years on Rutgers payroll
68-67 overall record
ZERO BCS games
ZERO conference championships
His 'defense' gave up 69 points to Cincinnati in 2010
0-11 versus West Virginia

Fired after two seasons at TB for being a below average coach there.

Let Schiano coach at a program that matches his ability... Monmouth College, Widener University, etc.
 

ArminRU

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Keep Schiano away from Rutgers. He's an average to below average coach and Rutgers has direct experience.

College football's KING of Soft and Easy OOC schedules
28-48 in the Big East
12 years on Rutgers payroll
68-67 overall record
ZERO BCS games
ZERO conference championships
His 'defense' gave up 69 points to Cincinnati in 2010
0-11 versus West Virginia

Fired after two seasons at TB for being a below average coach there.

Let Schiano coach at a program that matches his ability... Monmouth College, Widener University, etc.

Are you gonna copy and paste this in every thread?

I don't love the idea of him coming back. But then I think, what if he were to become the new coach of Cuse, Maryland or UVA? The thought of that scares me which tells me he's good enough for Rutgers.
 

rutgers4life11

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Keep Schiano away from Rutgers. He's an average to below average coach and Rutgers has direct experience.

College football's KING of Soft and Easy OOC schedules
28-48 in the Big East
12 years on Rutgers payroll
68-67 overall record
ZERO BCS games
ZERO conference championships
His 'defense' gave up 69 points to Cincinnati in 2010
0-11 versus West Virginia

Fired after two seasons at TB for being a below average coach there.

Let Schiano coach at a program that matches his ability... Monmouth College, Widener University, etc.

Sorry but you're wrong on a heck of a lot of points.
  1. He inherited the worst program on the face of the earth. No one would deny that. So your W/L record is skewed. The Rutgers job was at least a 5 year complete rebuild to go from an FCS level team to a Division 1. Take his record after that mark, and it's quite impressive.
  2. 69 points to Cincinnati... you do freaking realize that was Eric LeGrand's injury year, right?
  3. The WVU number SUCKS, but you know what - West Virginia was darn good, and had better facilities/recruiting/salaries than us. They embarrassed a lot of good teams in those years, including in big BCS games.
  4. His defense was rated a top 20 unit in most of the years he was here. I posted the rankings in another thread.
  5. Unlike Flood, he beat a top 50 RPI team every year since 2006. In many years, beating multiple. This is proof he beat good teams.
  6. He did this with a crumbling Big East, in which every coach was manipulating the hell out of recruits... he desperately needed something like the B1G name.
The truth is we don't have to argue, you'll see the results for yourself in years to come.
 

MozRU

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Hell froze over


Moz wants Greg BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Zombo NJ

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I am not a huge GS fan...I think GS makes perfect sense given where RU is right now
 

RU848789

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Keep Schiano away from Rutgers. He's an average to below average coach and Rutgers has direct experience.

College football's KING of Soft and Easy OOC schedules
28-48 in the Big East
12 years on Rutgers payroll
68-67 overall record
ZERO BCS games
ZERO conference championships
His 'defense' gave up 69 points to Cincinnati in 2010
0-11 versus West Virginia

Fired after two seasons at TB for being a below average coach there.

Let Schiano coach at a program that matches his ability... Monmouth College, Widener University, etc.
Troll alert. You can't seriously include Greg's first 4 years, spent rescuing the Rutgers football program from the abyss - we were worse than many 1AA programs - it was unquestionably the biggest rebuilding job ever undertaken in modern college football. Sure, we all wish he had gotten us to a BCS bowl, but we came very close and we were a damn good team from 2005-2011, apart from the 2010 team, which we all know was deeply impacted by the EL injury.

So, looking at 2005-2011, the picture is much brighter: 56-33 overall and 25-22 in the BE, plus 5-1 in bowl games all against teams with winning records. And a level of respect for the football team, the academics and the PROGRAM that have all been frittered away under Flood. Also, very few blowout losses to top teams - and the BE had some very good teams back then (not just WVU), as we all used to crow about when looking at our rpi vs. other conferences (the BE was competitive on the field with everyone).

Would love to see what he can do recruiting-wise, with the B1G behind him and am also interested to see how he's grown, as he's admitted he really needed to do some growing and is prepared to be a much better coach and manager in his next stop. Let's hope it's here.
 

PhilaPhans

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Apr 23, 2005
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Please do not copy and paste anything from 247 on here. Good for them if they have some sort of confirmation, but I'm sure you'll hear the same here shortly if it's actually true.
 

RU old timer

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Why is it ridiculous to give up my season tickets if Schiano is rehired? I wanted him to leave in his first tenure here. If I can't stand him, why should I give RU one dime?!
 

RU848789

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
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Why is it ridiculous to give up my season tickets if Schiano is rehired? I wanted him to leave in his first tenure here. If I can't stand him, why should I give RU one dime?!
Cause it's just plain stupid. If you're truly an oldtimer, surely you can at least give Greg credit for being the best coach we've had in the "modern" era (post 1980), and if you can admit that, then how could you even consider giving up your tickets now when you presumably had them for all the other less successful coaches we had.
 
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Ole Cabbagehead

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Why does anyone think Schiano is the best we can do?? If we can afford to pay him, we can afford to pay lots of really good coaches. He is not going to come cheap.
 

Scarlet Knut

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Sorry but you're wrong on a heck of a lot of points.
  1. He inherited the worst program on the face of the earth. No one would deny that. So your W/L record is skewed. The Rutgers job was at least a 5 year complete rebuild to go from an FCS level team to a Division 1. Take his record after that mark, and it's quite impressive.
  2. 69 points to Cincinnati... you do freaking realize that was Eric LeGrand's injury year, right?
  3. The WVU number SUCKS, but you know what - West Virginia was darn good, and had better facilities/recruiting/salaries than us. They embarrassed a lot of good teams in those years, including in big BCS games.
  4. His defense was rated a top 20 unit in most of the years he was here. I posted the rankings in another thread.
  5. Unlike Flood, he beat a top 50 RPI team every year since 2006. In many years, beating multiple. This is proof he beat good teams.
  6. He did this with a crumbling Big East, in which every coach was manipulating the hell out of recruits... he desperately needed something like the B1G name.
The truth is we don't have to argue, you'll see the results for yourself in years to come.
Thanks and you left out his record in bowl games.
 

bac2therac

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Jul 30, 2001
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We could do better..careful of a short term solution at the expense of the longer term....lets truly start fresh
 

JQRU91

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Thanks and you left out his record in bowl games.
His bowl record means very little. The Big East was set up poorly for bowls. Teams ranked higher in the Big East were often playing teams ranked lower in their own conference. That's why I never got excited when the Big East did well come bowl time.
 
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NickKnight 1

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Shortly after he was hired by Tampa Bay, Sports Illustrated had
fall NFL issue analyzing ever team. Using stats and all
kinds of facts to back up their arguments. But with his Bucs
team they had no facts, but so excited about what he had
accomplished so far. This is what they came up with, the players
could not use cell phone while walking down hall ways, he wanted
to pay attention to each other with greetings. Also they were
real excited about how he had removed all square and rectangular
tables in the eating hall and replaced them with all round tables
so they could look at each others eyes. When I read this, I said if
these were the tactics he is going to use on pros. he will fail
within two years. My point is, he can go to all the therapy there is, but he
he needs to coach, and if can't do that by now, I wouldn't want him.
He got lucky at RU for a few reasons. 1. The right place at the right
time, Things couldn't get worse. People were so happy with 3 wins in two years.
2. Bog M. laid down the ground work, Gruninger was gone. 3. All of us were so desperate, we had to convinced our selves to believe in him. He
was the salesman we needed to believe in.
But after the great or lucky 2006 season, I say lucky because
of all the 3 to 7 point wins. Evan I believed here we go. But the
recruiting did not go up, but down and the play on the field went
down also. When all the teams left and the league got so weak,
He couldn't come close to leading the league. He just peaked, plus his
heart just didn't seem to be in it. I would just like to see a new
but experience head coach. 11 years of him is enough for me.
You know I'm not getting any younger.
To summarize when he said give be ten years for National
Championship. Things were so bad we said GREAT.
But we got a loss to Last place 0 and 11 Syr.
Fool me once but..................
 

RUInsanityToo

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May 5, 2006
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Herman was the best choice, but he's off the table now. I initially did not want GS back, but have since warmed to the idea. He was too conservative on offense for today's game.......however his defense and Specials were generally very good to excellent with the right personnel. He is charismatic and will bring life back to the program. He is a solid recruiter who might just do good things for RU as a BIG program. He needs to to lay off the offense and bring in an innovative OC....and IMO the team will compete in the BIG after the roster is shaken out a bit and reenergized.
 

Ronnie_B

Heisman
Dec 30, 2011
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He could be wondering if it's worth waiting out the Penn State HC job. Franklin seat is starting to get pretty warm.
 

RU93

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Why does anyone think Schiano is the best we can do?? If we can afford to pay him, we can afford to pay lots of really good coaches. He is not going to come cheap.

I'll buy the season tickets that you are giving up from the school, and will donate significantly more than what I'm donating now.
 
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