Greg

MADHAT1

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Apr 1, 2003
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Extra Point_rivals157299

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Aug 9, 2001
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Greg thinks that the Rutgers fans who think he is their friend are suckers, as he destroys their team. When Miami played us with young Schiano as coach, they took it easy on us.
 

Steveriknight

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I think we are going to have to live with Ash no matter how he performs, until at least 2021, when we have the money to pay for a proven coach.

When you're in a position like Rutgers is, I think you have overpay for a proven coach.. to entice him to risk coming here. We won't have the money ($4M?) to do that for at least three more years. So...
 

vkj91

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Feb 7, 2007
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When Greg accomplishes what Ash has at OSU than we will talk. Until then he was a 500 in conference head coach from 2006 on.
In a much easier conference
 
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Mr_Twister

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Empty seats do not help pay salaries. Beat downs can not continue for perpetuity. We need to see real progress. No drama. None. Outcomes never in doubt. Long time fans do not bother watching. There is probably not one of our starters who is better than their Ohio State counterpart. Probably true for coaching staffs as well.
 
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BoroKnight

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Lot’s of my ex’s still look good, but there’s a reason we’ve all moved on.

Can we PLEASE make it so this post appears on EVERY DAMN THREAD that whines to get Schiano back? It is not happening, and you shouldn't want it to happen. Over. Done. Great for a while, but it's history. And it wasn't even that great after its peak, if you remember properly. And we don't even know for sure he could do it in this conference, at least at Rutgers.

MOVE ON. For your own well being, move on. For your own mental health, move on. Either that or have your doctor increase the dosage next time.
 

vkj91

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Feb 7, 2007
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Difference is he could recruit in an inferior conference and sell a program. Ash doesn't have anyone excited in the program.
Difference is you guys rewrite history. He was like third best recruiter in that conference. That puts him at 11 or 12 in this one. Also, in other conference we had equal facilities to our peers
 

sunsetregret

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Think Greg is excellent in many areas but result not much different if hes coaching this group

In his defense (and I think he was an average Power 5 head coach) ... if he was here, he wouldn't be coaching this group; the group would be much more talented.
 

Section124

Heisman
Dec 21, 2002
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You never-Schiano types really have a screw loose

I get it if you are saying "support the guy we have", otherwise you are really insane if you cannot see how he could be the answer here
The same can be said of the always Schiano fan bois as well. He couldn’t win in an average conference. What was his record against WVU. That’s all that needs to be said here.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Oct 11, 2003
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I think we are going to have to live with Ash no matter how he performs, until at least 2021, when we have the money to pay for a proven coach.

When you're in a position like Rutgers is, I think you have overpay for a proven coach.. to entice him to risk coming here. We won't have the money ($4M?) to do that for at least three more years. So...
What evidence have you seen that RU would spend that kind of money on a football coach?
 

brgRC90

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Apr 8, 2008
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Schiano could occasionally recruit a great player and was able to get a lot of guys into the NFL. But we're not a farm team for the NFL. And in the end he never won anything of any notoriety except a string of third and fourth rate bowl games.
 
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Steveriknight

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What evidence have you seen that RU would spend that kind of money on a football coach?

Absolutely none. But it's our best chance at getting a proven coach who can help us compete with our conference peers.

I mean, if our B1G payout increases some $35M or so in 2021, and the math says our budget would be in surplus (no subsidy), and we are still losing like this.. and they DON'T pony up for a big time coach, I may start a riot at the administration building!
 

sunsetregret

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Schiano could occasionally recruit a great player and was able to get a lot of guys into the NFL. But we're not a farm team for the NFL. And in the end he never won anything of any notoriety except a string of third and fourth rate bowl games.

I think this is unfair to Schiano. He didn't recruit the occasional great player; he recruited a lot of great players. And when it came to defensive backs, we were the closest thing to the Patriots' farm team as their was a relationship between any set of college and pro teams.
 

brgRC90

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I think this is unfair to Schiano. He didn't recruit the occasional great player; he recruited a lot of great players. And when it came to defensive backs, we were the closest thing to the Patriots' farm team as their was a relationship between any set of college and pro teams.

Great, we helped an NFL team with boatloads of money win Superbowls and in return we got wins at bowls that no longer even exist or whose name nobody can remember.
 

drewbagel423

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Difference is you guys rewrite history. He was like third best recruiter in that conference. That puts him at 11 or 12 in this one. Also, in other conference we had equal facilities to our peers
I specifically remember Wanstedt (sp?) annually taking Greg to the recruiting woodshed.
 

sunsetregret

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Great, we helped an NFL team with boatloads of money win Superbowls and in return we got wins at bowls that no longer even exist or whose name nobody can remember.

Yes, he's mediocre as a major college head coach. That doesn't mean what you said was correct. He sent a ton of players to the NFL and was the closest thing to a pipeline for NFL defensive backs as there was in college football.
 

vkj91

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Feb 7, 2007
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Yes, he's mediocre as a major college head coach. That doesn't mean what you said was correct. He sent a ton of players to the NFL and was the closest thing to a pipeline for NFL defensive backs as there was in college football.
There is state called Florida with a school named Miami in a country known as USA. Look em up.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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May 25, 2012
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He was good for Rutgers for that point in time. But we never won the Big East not even once while he was here with a much easier schedule and NFL talent.
 
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RU_DIO

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Sep 1, 2002
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Difference is you guys rewrite history. He was like third best recruiter in that conference. That puts him at 11 or 12 in this one. Also, in other conference we had equal facilities to our peers

Give it a break. He took the worst team in D1, created a winning program and excited a pro sports state for some years. He made people proud to wear Rutgers gear and we were no longer a laughing stock. You know damn well he would recruit well in the Big 10. You also know that our program was on a significant upward trajectory in 2011 and 2012 recruiting wise as we were killing the Northeast teams for recruits we normally lost out to. In the B1G, Greg would do very well.
 

vkj91

Heisman
Feb 7, 2007
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Give it a break. He took the worst team in D1, created a winning program and excited a pro sports state for some years. He made people proud to wear Rutgers gear and we were no longer a laughing stock. You know damn well he would recruit well in the Big 10. You also know that our program was on a significant upward trajectory in 2011 and 2012 recruiting wise as we were killing the Northeast teams for recruits we normally lost out to. In the B1G, Greg would do very well.
Wanting to make it so isn’t enough.
We lost to Tulane year 10. Facts please