Grizz fans. They traded JJJ
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Dang, him and Konchar have been fixtures there. My son had just gotten a new JJJ jersey a few weeks ago. He got it to replace his Bane jersey from last year 
Hard to see him go but I'm okay with this. Solid haul plus a big trade exception.
Looks like we are committed to the rebuild and that we are going to try and recreate what the Thunder did.
This trade gave us a sense of direction. The Grizzlies are no longer in purgatory wondering whether to blow it up or hope that this core works.
I imagine this makes it all the more likely that Ja will be traded too.
Looks like we are committed to the rebuild and that we are going to try and recreate what the Thunder did.
This trade gave us a sense of direction. The Grizzlies are no longer in purgatory wondering whether to blow it up or hope that this core works.
I imagine this makes it all the more likely that Ja will be traded too.
Everybody seeing the first round picks, but those three pics are going to be garbage unless they use it to trade in another trade. The only good piece out of this is Clayton Jr. Everybody else in the trade is just a bunch of bums and absorbing their salary to make the trade work. I totally get moving him, but man, I don’t know about what they got in return for it.
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They are getting the most favorable of Utah/Cleveland/Minnesota 2027 first. Plus Lakers 2027 first. Not great honestly. They also get Phoenix's 2031 first. Basically a lottery ticket. Who knows how good they'll be in 5 years!
You're right, it's not as good as I had originally thought.
They already have a ton of first round assets so repackaging for a trade or a higher pick are not out of the question here I don't think.
And that $29M trade exception....wow.
This could be a really fast rebuild if they got super aggressive here.
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I think Minnesota is going after Giannis. They made that move earlier to start freeing up space to put them under the first apron.
The trade analysis ESPN did was pretty spot on, I thought. Jaren hasn't been elite on either side of the ball for a couple of years now, and he starts making 51m per year starting next year. They gave the Grizzlies an A- trade grade on this trade.
They also clear out some of the backcourt logjam, and got a couple of potentially good players back.
I'm happy with the trade. Blow it up and build a competitive team. It's clear that even if Ja and Edey had been healthy, they weren't good enough.
Yep. A little birdie told me a few weeks ago it was inevitable. Ja is checked out. Management is checked out. Ja isn't close to anyone aside from Pippen and like 1 other guy. The good things JJJ says in the media was all PR coaching. Just waiting for the right moment and decent enough deal I suppose...
Still wish we dealt Ja when he had some value and rolled with JJJ and Bane but is what it is at this point.
Smart to deal JJJ first. Now they can take back bad money on a Ja trade so it ups the price because draft picks will be attached now. They increased Ja trade value.
When you think about what the Grizz got back for Bane and JJJ, it’s pretty impressive considering what some other teams have gotten recently (mavs). I would expect the Grizz to package some of these pics to possibly move up in this loaded draft.
I would have rather kept JJJ and Bane and traded Ja but his value is just 17 bad.
When you think about what the Grizz got back for Bane and JJJ, it’s pretty impressive considering what some other teams have gotten recently (mavs). I would expect the Grizz to package some of these pics to possibly move up in this loaded draft.
I would have rather kept JJJ and Bane and traded Ja but his value is just 17 bad.
What’s really wild is that nearly two years ago, I couldn’t fathom as to how Ja’s value could possibly drop further than it was after his nightclub/FB Live gun incidents and the upcoming suspension. Leave it to that clown to defy all probability by actually finding a way to tank his stock to an even lower level
That’s not really what dropped his value. He can’t stay healthy and can’t shoot. So you have a guard that can’t shoot the 3, doesn’t defend particularly well, drives to the paint or plays above the rim to score but doesn’t want to play above the rim anymore.
I get the bad behavior but if you’re good they’ll overlook that.
Right, and that’s really my point. Defense, shooting, and hitting the weights are all areas that were within his control to improve upon over the years, and yet he chose not to. He could’ve made people forget all about his off the court crap, but he took things to a whole new level by playing a key role in getting Jenkins fired, quitting on the team earlier this year, and then just acting in general like a completely unlikable toddler.
In an incredibly short amount of time, he has gone from an All-NBA caliber rising star to a player that virtually no one(including his own team) wants, and he has no one to blame but himself
If you got it from Fanatics, they will issue a refund if the player is traded within a year of purchase.Dang, him and Konchar have been fixtures there. My son had just gotten a new JJJ jersey a few weeks ago. He got it to replace his Bane jersey from last year
That’s handy to know.
He actually got it at a game there a few weeks ago. He says it’ll be an antique now, so he still likes it.
Something gotta be better than nothing to get rid of cancer, no? It's not like he's going to play more than 50% of the remaining games on his contract.
It’s funny that Memphis Grizzlies fans have wanted Eric Gordon for years and now they get him to waive him at the end of his career.
So, going forward, do the Grizzlies get the reenergized, happy-to-not-get-traded, smiling and engaged Morant, or do the Grizzlies get the sulking, bltchy, disengaged, everyone-is-out-to-get-me Morant? Or do the Grizzlies just send him home and keep him away from the team for a while?
Will be worth watching. It's interesting to me that the one guy on the roster who was sick of Ja's chit....Vince Williams Jr, got traded away.
Bitchy Ja. Nagging injuries. Plays 1/3 games.
I doubt he takes this as an opportunity for self reflection and improvement and hate that he's going to linger. I'm ready to move on.
This is my expectation too, but it would be kinda nice to see him turn a new leaf.
You clearly have much more faith in the incompetent **** running this team than I do.
Exactly 5 years ago…
- Ja/JJJ/Bane on rookie deals
- Young role players like Santi/Tyus/Melton
- Good stable of vets like Kyle/Brooks/SteveO
- Zero bad contracts
- Future draft picks galore
And then…
- we draft Zaire
- A year later, rather than getting our young core some veteran help, we burn a stockpile of draft picks on rookies that are no longer on the team
- Then we let Kyle walk for nothing
- Then we ship off Adams
- Then we give up players and picks to get Marcus Smart
- Then we give up players and picks to get rid of Marcus Smart
- Then we sign Des to a $200M deal only to trade him a year later
- Then we fire Jenkins, former coach of the year, because clearly he was the problem
- Then we sign JJJ to a $250M deal only to trade him months later
- Oh, and then there’s the minor Ja situation
It is absolutely mind boggling that Kleiman is still running this team
Zaire was a miss but they have hit on nearly all the draft picks and they have found some great players on two way deals. You can get mad at some of their free agent moves but I will greatly disagree on their drafts. Kleiman drafts really well
Adams was damaged goods, that’s why they let him walk. He’s only played a partial season since then and is now hurt again with a serious knee injury.
The contracts for Des and Jaren are right in line with what they were worth. The Bane trade was excellent for the draft picks attained. The Ja situation is on Ja. There’s very little if anything Kleiman can do with him being a dumbașs.
The Marcus Smart ordeal is the worst one, I will give you that. The deal to get rid of him was horrible for what they gave up.
Giving up on Jake LaRavia and letting him walk is worse than Adams to be honest.
I think Kleiman has done a good job overall.
They paid all three...Ja/Jaren/Des. And then they realized that those as your core are never going to be good enough to justify carrying max contracts for those 3. So they traded Bane in what was a great trade for Memphis. And then they traded JJJ, of which the jury is still out, but they got a really good return for him.
They missed on Zaire, but you can't criticize that with out giving credit for hitting on Bane, GG, Wells, Coward, Pippen Jr, etc.
Adams was useful when healthy. But he wasn't healthy, and he hasn't been healthy since.
Marcus Smart was a whiff. But at the moment it looked good on paper because he was what they needed if they wanted to compete....a veteran presence and a defensive stopper to plug in next to all the youth. It was a Tony Allen-like acquisition that didn't pay off.
Jenkins needed to go; he sucked. He had lost the team.
Signing guys to big contracts before trading them is what happens in the NBA.
Every team in the league would've taken Ja Morant with the 2 pick that year. Some might have taken him at 1 if they had it. The Ja situation is on Ja...he's singularly responsible for tanking his own value.
The Grizzlies went all in on a big 3 that was flawed - Bane can't carry a team, JJJ has been regressing every year since 23, and Ja is a temperamental headcase who can't shoot and can't defend. If those guys are your max contracts, you're not going to be able to go out and get the other pieces that you need to be successful. I get that nobody likes that they have to have patience, but what's happening with the Grizzlies right now is exactly how OKC ended up becoming what they are today.
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What you describe as “hits” are little more than finding serviceable role players, nearly all of which have serious flaws somewhere in their game. Otherwise, they could’ve easily been used in trade packages to bring playoff caliber players to this roster, yet Kleiman repeatedly whiffed on these attempts.
For all the good work that you claim he’s done, why is it that teams that were in similar positions (OKC, Houston, Detroit, Orlando, San Antonio) are now surging while Memphis is having to hit a giant Reset button?