Gus Malzahn retires.......

[OG Goat Holder]

.....and remains one of the dumbest decisions made at Auburn, in a long line of them. That situation also is a cautionary tale of booster involvement......as Malzahn won even with the boosters trying to make him run a 3-yard-and-cloud-of-dust system.

It's apparent that he just lost the fire at some point along the way, at UCF and FSU. He might could have reignited himself here or at Arkansas. Ran an offense conducive to our talent.

 

[Drebin]

.....and remains one of the dumbest decisions made at Auburn, in a long line of them. That situation also is a cautionary tale of booster involvement......as Malzahn won even with the boosters trying to make him run a 3-yard-and-cloud-of-dust system.

It's apparent that he just lost the fire at some point along the way, at UCF and FSU. He might could have reignited himself here or at Arkansas. Ran an offense conducive to our talent.

Over here in the real world, Gus Malzahn sucked. He did less with more at Auburn. Chronic underachiever.

 

[RBcoach]

Over here in the real world, Gus Malzahn sucked. He did less with more at Auburn. Chronic underachiever.

In 27 years of being a Head Coach at both the H.S. and College level he had 2 losing seasons. His first year as a HC and his last year as a HC, I don't think chronic underachiever is the right way to describe him.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

He and his wife can afford their own island in the keys. Dude killed it and is about to live like a baller. Respect.

 

[patdog]

Over here in the real world, Gus Malzahn sucked. He did less with more at Auburn. Chronic underachiever.

Best coach they've had since Tubberville. And not much worse than Tubberville was.

 

[curseddawgs]

.....and remains one of the dumbest decisions made at Auburn, in a long line of them. That situation also is a cautionary tale of booster involvement......as Malzahn won even with the boosters trying to make him run a 3-yard-and-cloud-of-dust system.

It's apparent that he just lost the fire at some point along the way, at UCF and FSU. He might could have reignited himself here or at Arkansas. Ran an offense conducive to our talent.

He lost his fire in the 2017 SEC championship. He wasn’t the same after sure he beat Alabama in 2019 but followed that up by losing to Minnesota. There’s a reason he never got a good job again

 

[Drebin]

In 27 years of being a Head Coach at both the H.S. and College level he had 2 losing seasons. His first year as a HC and his last year as a HC, I don't think chronic underachiever is the right way to describe him.

Expectations at Auburn (and USF when he took that job) are quite a bit higher than "winning season."

Chronic. Underachiever.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Expectations at Auburn (and USF when he took that job) are quite a bit higher than "winning season."

Chronic. Underachiever.

So you’re saying he’s the perfect “State Hire”

 

[POTUS]

Better coach: Mullen or Malzahn?

 

[patdog]

Expectations at Auburn (and USF when he took that job) are quite a bit higher than "winning season."

Chronic. Underachiever.

Auburn head coaches SEC winning %:
Terry Bowden - .678
Tommy Tuberville - .638
Pat Dye - .635
Shug Jordan - .594
Gus Malzahn - .591
Everyone else - .362

Note the difference between Malzahn and Tuberville is less than 1/2 game per year.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Better coach: Mullen or Malzahn?

Those first four and a half years with Dan at MSU were magnificent. Would have rather had Malzahn.

 

[patdog]

Better coach: Mullen or Malzahn?

It’s close.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Auburn head coaches SEC winning %:
Terry Bowden - .678
Tommy Tuberville - .638
Pat Dye - .635
Shug Jordan - .594
Gus Malzahn - .591
Everyone else - .362

Note the difference between Malzahn and Tuberville is less than 1/2 game per year.

So you're suggesting Bowden is better than all of them? Or was he simply a WAY overachiever?

TT was coaching Auburn at a much different time in the SEC- pre-Saban. Same for when he was at Ole Miss - he's easily an overachiever - while he was achieving. His final Aubie season was a cluster17.

Chizik did better with his team than he did. But again, coaching in the conference got stronger overall around that time and the game evolved.

Besides, Tommy T's dumb as a box of rocks. Malzahn's a better coach.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Auburn head coaches SEC winning %:
Terry Bowden - .678
Tommy Tuberville - .638
Pat Dye - .635
Shug Jordan - .594
Gus Malzahn - .591
Everyone else - .362

Note the difference between Malzahn and Tuberville is less than 1/2 game per year.

Not to mention during the SEC's strongest decade ever. And....across the state from the most dominant coach ever.

Tuberville still lives on that 6-0 streak, which lasted right up until said dominant coach showed up. But hey he got him year 1. So did Croominator.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Better coach: Mullen or Malzahn?

They are very similar. Bout the only difference is that Mullen prefers the straight line approach, stiffer/taller QBs and runs/routes whereas Malzahn was more zig-zaggy and liked that fast guy. I mean the guy took a CB and made him a good QB. And Mullen could take TEs and make them QBs, haha.

Both did the hurry up, both were power spreads, etc.

 

[patdog]

So you're suggesting Bowden is better than all of them? Or was he simply a WAY overachiever?

TT was coaching Auburn at a much different time in the SEC- pre-Saban. Same for when he was at Ole Miss - he's easily an overachiever - while he was achieving. His final Aubie season was a cluster17.

Chizik did better with his team than he did. But again, coaching in the conference got stronger overall around that time and the game evolved.

Besides, Tommy T's dumb as a box of rocks. Malzahn's a better coach.

Just posting the facts. I was as surprised as anyone at Bowden record as anyone. But I agree that Malzahn coached in a much tougher SEC West than either Bowden or Tuberville did.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Better coach: Mullen or Malzahn?

 

[Drebin]

Not to mention during the SEC's strongest decade ever. And....across the state from the most dominant coach ever.

Which is why he underachieved. You're moving the goalposts. But there was a reason AU wanted to run him out of town on a rail - he didn't meet expectations. A couple of those years he should've competed for the natty. He had the team for it.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Which is why he underachieved. You're moving the goalposts. But there was a reason AU wanted to run him out of town on a rail - he didn't meet expectations. A couple of those years he should've competed for the natty. He had the team for it.

Nobody put up any goalposts except you. Who cares what their expectations are if they are dumb, which has been proven in the years after they fired him. You're trying to justify your bad take.

 

[Drebin]

Nobody put up any goalposts except you. Who cares what their expectations are if they are dumb, which has been proven in the years after they fired him. You're trying to justify your bad take.

Stop being a retard for five minutes.

When you're ranked in the top five/top ten and end the season at 8-4, you're an underachiever. That was Malzahn's problem and it happened way too much.

As the resident SixPack underachiever, you should understand this, but then aGAIN, you're a retard, so maybe my expectations of you are dumb.

 

[DAWGSANDSAINTS]

He and his wife can afford their own island in the keys. Dude killed it and is about to live like a baller. Respect.

And eat at Waffle House anytime, anywhere.

 

[Perd Hapley]

So you're suggesting Bowden is better than all of them? Or was he simply a WAY overachiever?

Bowden sucked. His winning % is entirely attributed to going 14-1-1 his first 2 years….with a team and roster that was ineligible for the postseason because it was built by rampant cheating by his predecessor.

His SEC winning % was .551 from 1995 to 1998….and would have been even worse if he was allowed to finish the 1998 season.

 

[BrunswickDawg]

Bowden sucked. His winning % is entirely attributed to going 14-1-1 his first 2 years….with a team and roster that was ineligible for the postseason because it was built by rampant cheating by his predecessor.

His SEC winning % was .551 from 1995 to 1998….and would have been even worse if he was allowed to finish the 1998 season.

Or, you could say that from 1995-97 his win % was .703 (26-11) - and he tanked in '98 when Bobby Lowder went after him for his extracurricular activities - program be damned.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Or, you could say that from 1995-97 his win % was .703 (26-11) - and he tanked in '98 when Bobby Lowder went after him for his extracurricular activities - program be damned.

Common theme for a program with higher expectations than they should be, and boosters trying to get their way.

Auburn is Mississippi State in a bigger state, with more money, with proximity to a mega city. The toxicity is definitely there.

I will say, years ago, Auburn did a better job of funneling all resources into football. Similar to Ole Miss, except moreso.

 

[beachbumdawg]

.....and remains one of the dumbest decisions made at Auburn, in a long line of them. That situation also is a cautionary tale of booster involvement......as Malzahn won even with the boosters trying to make him run a 3-yard-and-cloud-of-dust system.

It's apparent that he just lost the fire at some point along the way, at UCF and FSU. He might could have reignited himself here or at Arkansas. Ran an offense conducive to our talent.

 

[MaroonState]

.....and remains one of the dumbest decisions made at Auburn, in a long line of them. That situation also is a cautionary tale of booster involvement......as Malzahn won even with the boosters trying to make him run a 3-yard-and-cloud-of-dust system.

It's apparent that he just lost the fire at some point along the way, at UCF and FSU. He might could have reignited himself here or at Arkansas. Ran an offense conducive to our talent.

I want what you’re smoking

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Bowden sucked. His winning % is entirely attributed to going 14-1-1 his first 2 years….with a team and roster that was ineligible for the postseason because it was built by rampant cheating by his predecessor.

His SEC winning % was .551 from 1995 to 1998….and would have been even worse if he was allowed to finish the 1998 season.

He was 20-1-1 those first two years. He won his first 20 games. After that, he was 27-17-1.

 

[Drebin]

He was 20-1-1 those first two years. He won his first 20 games. After that, he was 27-17-1.

I don't think Bowden was great but there's a lot of revisionist history around him. He ultimately failed for the same reason so many coaches at Auburn failed - the boosters weren't all in on him. Many didn't like him.