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BBdK

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Matthews did a LOT of absent-minded things last night, but damn I love his game. His ability to just "hang" there and get off a shot is pretty unreal. Kinda reminds me of Miller a bit when he goes down low.

Dude is pretty ripped, too. He's gonna be a damn good player here.
 
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anthonys735

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UnfrozenCatfanLawyer said:
There's a very good chance Ben Simmons won't play a single NCAA Tourney game. That's infuriating.
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Not that it's a badge of honor but I called that. Jones could do anything with Mickey and Martin, you think he knows how to handle a phenom like Simmons?

They're in a tough spot already. These early season NC games are pretty important if you're not going to be an automatic. They still have Wake and Oklahoma left to grab a good win. If not they'll probably need to win at least 2-3 against Vandy, TAMU, us and not drop any more games they should win.
 
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wildcat1973_rivals160373

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Lol...in Noel's 7th game, he had 16 Rebounds, 1 Block, and 6 Steals...vs. Baylor. Terrible offensively, but he was a beast defensively.

Another very early Noel stat line on defense...11 Rebounds and 6 Blocks and 3 Steals vs. Morehead.

"Putrid" is the best way to describe his defensive game early on.

[banana]
 
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BBdK

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Box scores don't always tell the whole story. Archie Goodwin's numbers were gaudy, too.

Nerlens got abused defensively quite a bit early. Went for every headfake, and tried to block EVERY shot....was a layup-surrendering machine often, which was Anth's point that I was agreeing with.
 
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- I just love this team's ability to guard the ball. That's what makes me the most confident. Ulis, Briscoe and Hawkins are all damn good one-on-one perimeter defenders. When he's engaged, Murray is too. Chuckie Matts is also solid. Look at what we did to Grayson Allen, who's a 1st Team AA at this point.

- Agree with much of the Skal criticism, but if you're going to note how bad of a rebounder he is, you also have to give him props for being the best shooting big we've ever had under Cal.

- Matthews has NO confidence in any perimeter skills, BUT he can be a terrific D&D guy- defense and dunking. Just stay in your lane, Charles. Feed off the guards and hit that offensive glass.
 
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Skal's errors on that side of the court are probably 90% mental, 10% physical. He can't rebound because he's always out of position. Basically, he doesn't really know how to play defense, and he'll learn.

But I'll echo everybody else and say that he does better on that side when he's engaged on offense. He was better defensively on Friday. He also got the ball a lot. I don't doubt that Briscoe and Murray can post feed. They passed it to Lee in the post last night. It was like Cal was doing that "don't give him the ball, he sucks" thing that MJ did to Bill Cartwright in "The Jordan Rules".

Can we just chalk up last night as an exceptionally weird game on all fronts?
 
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BBdK

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I think what this team has moreso than any team since 2012 is clearly defined roles for all the players. Ulis is your floor general. Murray and Briscoe are your wing scorers. Lee & Poythress are defense, rebounding and second chance points/lobs. Matthews is a glue guy off the bench who can defend, rebound and score in traffic if need be. Skal is a finesse big who will eventually come into his own on offense and as a shot blocker on defense. Even the bench guys have roles to play. Hawkins is an energy guy. Humphries is a brute. Willis can be an offensive spark/shooter. The pieces all fit so well and they aren't really stepping on each others' toes for minutes/roles. If Skal develops like elite Calipari big men tend to do and Murray/Ulis start shooting the ball like they're capable of, then I really like this team.
 
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-73 is absolutely right about Noel, he doesn't need to post boxscores . He was very good defensively/rebounding from the jump. Pretty silly to say otherwise. Did he get better over the course of the year? Of course. But he was nowhere near as bad as Skal on D/Rebounding early. As 73 said, it was his offense that SUCKED. Skal pretty much the polar opposite of Noel. Agree with the 'too early to get concerned' crowd. He's got a lot of season to improve.

-I hope LSU loses every game so Bill Simmons will STFU about how Ben Simmons is the only 'must see' college player since Durant. Must see what Bill? Huge stats on a terrible team? Awful coaching?

-That IS team last night was some dirty, pipe hitting mofos. They deserved every foul call they got, some of those fouls were HARD. Actually kinda glad Ulis was out. I keep having flashbacks to what WVA did to Trimble last year. Just beat the **** out of him all game, and eventually knocked him out - like gave him a concussion. Some **** team is going to try that and we need that dude.

-Love what Lee/Poythress brought last night. That's the toughness we need.
 
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wcc31

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@ Texas A&M (2/20) and @ Vandy (2/27) are going to be battles. Both teams have some good size inside.

This team will lose some games. No doubt.
 
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MaxPowerrr

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wcc31 said:
Ben Simmons is a helluva lot of fun to watch.
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He will be fun to watch in the NIT, because his coach is awful, and won't play in the NCAA is the point I'm trying to make. Also will be the highlight of Thursday of the SECT, which is another way of saying his coach is terrible.

Those are my hot takes.
 
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MaxPowerrr

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Also- anyone deliberately avoiding the NFL right now is missing out on a hilarious comedy of errors with this year's edition of the Cleveland Browns.
 
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Wodie sloot

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Marcus Pee
Devin Bricker
Aaron Harrisucks
Tyler Useless
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Sam Malone
Willie Smelly-Stein
Tod Panter
Alex Gaythress
AJ Notfloreal
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Brian Schlong
Derek Willisnt
Bricka-Trey Lyles
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BBdK

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Lol, what kind of FBoy wants odds?

I'll bet you...LSU will be 5-9 seed. If I had to bet on a # it would be 6 or the 8/9, which are most always underachieving but scary teams. Still pretty comfortably in.
 
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BBdK

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anthonys735 said:
You said with ease, 8/9 is not with ease.
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Lol, ok.

Like a year ago when we were an 8 seed (which was a joke) and went to the National Title game?


Disappointing seed/regular season for sure...but we were nowhere NEAR the 'bubble' or being left out of the tournament. Not sure how anyone could argue we weren't comfortably (with ease) in THE FIELD on Selection Sunday -- And if you do, you're incorrect.
 
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Mattox

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This would be an easy bet to make. If LSU is in the "last four in" of the at large teams or doesn't make the tournament Anth wins. If they're in and not one of the "last four in" then BBdK wins.
 
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BBdK

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Nah, per Anth, the 32nd best team in a field of 68 didn't make it in "with ease".

And yes, I'm aware of all the automatic bids that take up the majority of 12-16.
 
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anthonys735

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^Yeah, because that happens often. Also, we were top 25 most of the year. I don't see that happening with LSU.
 
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PTI (pti) said:
anth considers a 6 seed to be in comfortably, so that's the gold standard.
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With ease. Stop changing my words.

He said they'd be in with ease, I said I'd bet with odds. If he wants the bet it's 6+ or a counter. That's basically the top half of the at large bids.

In 2014 we were criminally under seeded. Believe there was even statistical evidence it was one of the worst seedings in tourney history. Completely irrelevant here. Apples vs Oranges.
 
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BBdK

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Why does it take "top half" to be in with ease? That's stupid. So now it's up to you to decide which seeds are just and which aren't? Who's to say LSU's actual seed will meet/agree with either of our own criteria?

Being in "with ease" is not being on THE BUBBLE, or sweating on if you're going to be in the damn tournament...or having to win a few games in your conference tournament to join the conversation.

Otherwise, you KNOW you're in and are making reservations.



Sounds like you need to quit proposing bets until you're ready to lay money.
 
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