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VaTech is a great fit for Stoops. He’d celebrate this kind of game too.
Yesterday I had to look up what year Lamont Butler played for us. I couldn't remember if it was last year or the year before. I chalked it up to too many 1 and dones and not getting enough sleep the previous night, but it's probably early onset Alzheimer's. If it's Alzheimer's I'll soon forget how sh***y our football team is.
Cal Doesn't Want to Be "Transactional"
Says he wants to help 25-35 more families. That's his purpose.
I hate Cal. When is a school gonna call him in and say, "mothereffer, you're here to win games and that's f'ing it"?
Says he wants to help 25-35 more families. That's his purpose.
I hate Cal. When is a school gonna call him in and say, "mothereffer, you're here to win games and that's f'ing it"?
Nice of John Tyson to use his money for helping families - I'm sure that's what he had in mind when they hired Cal.
I just read that and count as a blessing the fact that we don't have to listen to any more of his bs.
And while I'll always want to beat his teams badly, my gratitude that he walked away grows every day - especially now that we're watching our football coach hold UK hostage.
I just read that and count as a blessing the fact that we don't have to listen to any more of his bs.
And while I'll always want to beat his teams badly, my gratitude that he walked away grows every day - especially now that we're watching our football coach hold UK hostage.
Not so much anymore im not. I’m pretty much just a cantankerous old man at this point.
Let’s say for some asinine reason, VT offers to take Stoops off our hands. The question now becomes:
Will Mark Stoops take a multi-million dollar per year paycut (because they surely aren’t going to pay that man 9 per) and leave a possible 40 million buyout on the table to go coach in Blacksburg?
You guys . . .
Will Mark Stoops take a multi-million dollar per year paycut (because they surely aren’t going to pay that man 9 per) and leave a possible 40 million buyout on the table to go coach in Blacksburg?
You guys . . .
It’s similar to when Tubby left. He doesn’t want to be let go (that leaves a stain on his career), wants to go somewhere he’s wanted and show everyone (& himself) that he can still coach.
Deep down he knows he needs to get out before he’s let go and the easiest way to do that is to find another job. He’s got plenty of money so I think his pride/ego will mean more to him that the money at the end of the day.
Big difference between Piglet and Tubby are the vicious terms of a divorce settlement with Chantelle’s meat hooks on half of that buyout. Money here is all that matters.
The man should have known better than to marry some broad named Chantelle in the first place. Sounds like a Tallahassee stripper’s name.
I hope you're right, Jayroon.
But I'm not buying any of it. We're not talking about a few thousand dollars here. It's tens of millions and I can't think of a time in sports history where a coach/player took that much less because they still thought they had something to prove. The man has been chewed up and spit out by UK football and it shows.
But I'm not buying any of it. We're not talking about a few thousand dollars here. It's tens of millions and I can't think of a time in sports history where a coach/player took that much less because they still thought they had something to prove. The man has been chewed up and spit out by UK football and it shows.
Am I understanding this incorrectly? My thinking was that if somebody, anybody were to hire Stoops away, UK would simply owe the difference between his $9MM annually/$37MM total owed, right?
So, yeah, it’s a shame that we would still owe him money. The dude is getting his $37MM and isn’t going to agree to one cent less, I’m convinced of that. But that could still potentially be a pretty significant discount on what UK owes now (obviously depending on whatever the new salary might be).
Again, unless I just have it all totally wrong.
So, yeah, it’s a shame that we would still owe him money. The dude is getting his $37MM and isn’t going to agree to one cent less, I’m convinced of that. But that could still potentially be a pretty significant discount on what UK owes now (obviously depending on whatever the new salary might be).
Again, unless I just have it all totally wrong.
There is too much going on for the truth to not be in the middle somewhere.
Stoops was gone to A&M and that was after their divorce and now his name is floating around again.
I don’t care if it is his agent, it’s because 1- Stoops see’s the writing on the wall, and 2- he has years left and doesn’t want to be out of work……….it isn’t how these guys are geared.
So yea to us that 38M is enough to force a firing and cash out but he has plenty of money and while I would suggest that’s reason enough to pass on the buyout, it is reason enough to move on for slightly less per year.
He could end up at his next school another 13 years if it’s a solid landing spot that isn’t a loss or him passing on the buyout.
Also if his earnings change so much he can always go back to divorce court and get the financials lowered based on a new contract he’d have………and that’s IF the UK deal is tied directly to alimony.
Stoops was gone to A&M and that was after their divorce and now his name is floating around again.
I don’t care if it is his agent, it’s because 1- Stoops see’s the writing on the wall, and 2- he has years left and doesn’t want to be out of work……….it isn’t how these guys are geared.
So yea to us that 38M is enough to force a firing and cash out but he has plenty of money and while I would suggest that’s reason enough to pass on the buyout, it is reason enough to move on for slightly less per year.
He could end up at his next school another 13 years if it’s a solid landing spot that isn’t a loss or him passing on the buyout.
Also if his earnings change so much he can always go back to divorce court and get the financials lowered based on a new contract he’d have………and that’s IF the UK deal is tied directly to alimony.
While I don't think Stoops should even be in VaTech's top 5 candidates, am I crazy to think it would actually be a solid hire (for both parties)? The obvious front runner would be Beamer but I'm pretty sure he left on bad terms and seems to want to distance himself from the school. VT has tried the young up and comer route and then the re-tread route and neither worked. Stoops is a consistent guy with the lunch pail attitude they seem to adore.
Stoops gets to go back to the ACC, can still recruit Ohio and doesn't have the same pressure of an SEC slate. He'd have them competing for division championships in no time.
Stoops gets to go back to the ACC, can still recruit Ohio and doesn't have the same pressure of an SEC slate. He'd have them competing for division championships in no time.
It appears the acc canceled divisions in 2023. I still think he would make va tech a top 5 program in that god awful conference though, it's that bad.
I find it hard to believe since ol man Beamer is a special assistant to the AD and since his son has some constant animosity with Stoops. Maybe deep down there's some mutual respect there we're unaware of.
No kidding. Where are UCL and MaxP? Their dark, fatalistic sense of humor is an integral element of this thread.
Also, Pretzel has popped in but not often enough. Same of course with BBdK (PardonTheInterru[pti]on, meh). I know I'm missing some although SAE, Richie and others had pretty much disappeared before the Cat PawIllustrated / KSR ON3 apocalypse.
Hopefully it's just a temporary reflection of the crap state of our football program.
AP.com did not start a new Pope Era GYERO for nothing.
We're gonna need you all back. Can't make a run at #9 without original GYERO.
See youse in November.
Edit: glaring omission - my man WCC. I guess this shows that subconsciously, I think of WCC as a basketball-only guy. Maybe that explains it.
You'd better *get your ace back in here* in November (channeling Vince Vaughn).
And speaking of NKY crew - you too, Willy.
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I had a work colleague refuse to start his pension benefits from a former employer just to spite his ex wife and prevent her from getting her half. He passed away recently without ever drawing a penny of it. Just saying… How much does Stoops dislike his ex? 
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Do we know what the divorce settlement is? I guess I would assume the following:
- Half of marital assets (likely huge considering Stoops made all his money while he was married).
- Alimony support - I assume there is something, but if she got like $10M in assets it may be less than you think.
- I am not a lawyer, but Google AI, Esquire helped me figure this out.
So, other than adjustments, time management, and an inability to gauge the tempo of the game/when to give it the gas or the brake, he's a solid coach. Got it.
I had a work colleague refuse to start his pension benefits from a former employer just to spite his ex wife and prevent her from getting her half. He passed away recently without ever drawing a penny of it. Just saying… How much does Stoops dislike his ex?
That made me happy all over, and in fact, it moved a little.
Said it before, and I'll say it again. If Barnhart makes the next FB coaching hire, the odds are that he'll **** it up.
You guys need to understand Stoops is greedy as they come. He isn’t giving UK any deal/discount.
Who’s f’n fault is that?
We were right about Joker after year 2
We were right about Billy G after year 1
We were right after Cal year whatever we blew it.
We were right at the end of last year about Stoops.
It’s not that hard to be a damn AD. And somehow this goofy mother ****** keeps paying off coaches like Billy G, Joker and Stoops.
Who’s f’n fault is that?
We were right about Joker after year 2
We were right about Billy G after year 1
We were right after Cal year whatever we blew it.
We were right at the end of last year about Stoops.
It’s not that hard to be a damn AD. And somehow this goofy mother ****** keeps paying off coaches like Billy G, Joker and Stoops.
I understand your overall position and the fact that you are probably salty AF over all the help you financially provided behind the scenes over the last several years with seemingly no real return.
But are you actually saying that he wouldn’t take another job right now, which would in effect reduce (or “discount,” to use what I did admittedly say earlier) the hit on UK, just because he’s that petty?
If that’s not what you are saying and you are just speaking to him agreeing to less money overall, I completely agree he won’t and would never do that, and you can ignore the rest of this.
If that is what you’re saying, maybe he is that petty, but I have a hard time believing Jimmy would let him do that, just to be a stubborn prick about it. One, it tarnishes his own legacy and even further diminishes his chances of ever getting a decent HC job again. Two, it would just make Jimmy look like he’s incompetent.
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I'm starting to think that LowerLevel doesn't think very highly of FCPS leadership. LOL
(and I have to say, he's spot on about it.)
(and I have to say, he's spot on about it.)
If Stoops is getting a lump sum buyout 60 days out, there Is nothing to reduce after he is given the money, correct?
So, he gets another job, it’s just gravy.
So, he gets another job, it’s just gravy.
The ceiling for UK Football is, always HAS been, and for the foreseeable future, remains at consistent winning regular seasons. In this environment that means SEVEN wins.
That is exceedingly difficult, when you consider that you only get 3 "automatic" wins a year now.
Let's be generous, and say that you split, on average, with UL. You need to average 3.5 SEC wins per year.
Look up how many times, in the last 60 years, Kentucky has won more than 3 SEC games in a season.
The answer is NINE times. For a dismal and uninspiring FIFTEEN percent.
And only 8 seasons, if you don't count the vacated 2021 wins, for an even worse THIRTEEN percent.
THIS is what we're up against, in the NEW era of SEC football.
Sobering, isn't it?
That is exceedingly difficult, when you consider that you only get 3 "automatic" wins a year now.
Let's be generous, and say that you split, on average, with UL. You need to average 3.5 SEC wins per year.
Look up how many times, in the last 60 years, Kentucky has won more than 3 SEC games in a season.
The answer is NINE times. For a dismal and uninspiring FIFTEEN percent.
And only 8 seasons, if you don't count the vacated 2021 wins, for an even worse THIRTEEN percent.
THIS is what we're up against, in the NEW era of SEC football.
Sobering, isn't it?
No I am not saying he is petty. I am saying he is greedy. Whatever makes him the absolute most $ is what he will do in my opinion. I truly don’t think he wants to coach. Hell, he isn’t coaching here from what I see.
I don’t think a single P4 AD is dumb enough to hire him right now.
Just was saying he isn’t going to give UK any deal to cut the number down. He may take it over time but it will be at a cost to UK.
I don’t think a single P4 AD is dumb enough to hire him right now.
Just was saying he isn’t going to give UK any deal to cut the number down. He may take it over time but it will be at a cost to UK.
With Stoops, Joker, Brooks, Mumme, Curry, Claiborne it is really tough. That’s not exactly a list of college HOF caliber coaches.
If our AD could just luck into a great hire it won’t be as difficult. Coaching matters a great deal now more than ever since the playing field is more level with talent.
I'd be interested to see a break down of the financial implications if Stoops is retained through the end of his contract. With "scaling" for fan disinterest (in terms of game attendance/season ticket sales/donations etc.) Even better would be a year by year breakdown that could determine the "break even" point at various levels, compared to the buyout amount by year.
If that's even possible.
If that's even possible.
Since 2007, UK has not fielded a qb that could start for another SEC team…while in recent years, picking up qb’s from the portal who couldn’t start on their former teams. During this time period, we’ve had examples of top tier talent in most every other position on both sides of the ball. I think this could be a clue…
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Speaking only for myself, if Barnhart hired a great football coach for this era; it would most definitely be a "stroke of luck"
At this moment, UK is exactly .500 in all time winning percentage: 648-648-44.
By the end of this season, we'll be back several games below .500.
Wtf have we all been rooting for all our lives and why hasn't our fan base demanded better?
I think it’s flat out hilarious the detail of which some honestly are putting energy to what if on Stoops.
Getting another job before getting fired is pretty common practice in life. I get the money he could get to just be fired, but I honestly think a place like VaTech is absolutely 100% perfect for Stoops.
Even this season he was able to go out and get players where he needed them and given their talent level they’d be happy with that parts of Stoops.
My honest question is if he does leave, and I think he will, Can we get Dan Mullen or is it a straight line speed dial to Sumrall?
Getting another job before getting fired is pretty common practice in life. I get the money he could get to just be fired, but I honestly think a place like VaTech is absolutely 100% perfect for Stoops.
Even this season he was able to go out and get players where he needed them and given their talent level they’d be happy with that parts of Stoops.
My honest question is if he does leave, and I think he will, Can we get Dan Mullen or is it a straight line speed dial to Sumrall?