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It’s just an exhibition, I know, but it was the worst kind of game. Felt like a first-round exit kind of game where the momentum just never got going. Foul foul foul. Small guy on the other team absolutely torching us.
We’ll be fine.
If anyone else was there in person tonight, did the lighting seem off? Seemed yellow-er than usual. And the band being amplified is not good, and that’s coming from a dyed-in-the-wool band nerd. Just a weird scene over all.
At least we have a footb … never mind.
We’ll be fine.
If anyone else was there in person tonight, did the lighting seem off? Seemed yellow-er than usual. And the band being amplified is not good, and that’s coming from a dyed-in-the-wool band nerd. Just a weird scene over all.
At least we have a footb … never mind.
Woodward out at LSU. Mitch needs to be next.
It is October. I'm not making any hard basketball conclusions. I got a last minute ticket to the dinner club with a buddy, so I was on the floor before the game. Georgetown is MASSIVE. They play like Norton Commons Houston -- great D, efficient offense, great coaching, and out-physical the other team. We played like p-words, starting with our veteran leader Oweh.
Some thoughts:
Some thoughts:
- I don't want to hear a damn thing about Mo, Oweh, Noah or anyone else being a "dog" or anything of the sort. We got our asses kicked. To be frank, that is probably the best thing that could have happened. Georgetown brought their lunch pails. We looked like we thought were too good for what craft services served.
Some humble pie might be the best meal we need at current.
- Chandler looked terrible playing the point but Jasper might have been worse. They put Jasper in a pick and roll seemingly every time and it was essentially a guaranteed lay-up or foul. Jasper's next attempt at creating offense for others in the halfcourt will be first, as well.
I'm not happy with either of them. But at the same time, I am bitching about our third string point guard spot so maybe some perspective is in order.
- Georgetown is legit. They are big at every position, not just the two centers. That damn back-up African center they had looked like Jarvis Varnardo 2.0 last night. Good Lord.
Ed Cooley did not forget how to coach. He had us scouted and sat back on defense and took away the cuts and begged us to beat them with dribble penetration. Where they in some kind of weird zone made to look like man-to-man or something? I wasn't really watching what Georgetown was doing on defense until the game got out of hand, so I am not sure exactly what they did that was so effective but I would encourage Cody Pfueger and the rest of our 99 coaches to get a handle on it because it won't be the last time we see it.
- We are not as good as we looked against Purdue and not as bad as we looked against Georgetown. I am really not even sure how much these exhibitions will translate to regular season results. It seems like most good teams had some bipolar outings in their two exhibitions.
- Ramel Bradley was an unexpected drop-in on the KSR Rapid Reaction YT show (he's at the 4:30 time code). His take: "We don't need to be too happy. We know we look like we are Final Four bound but we need a good hit upside our face every now and then. Our boys will be alright."
The man didn't forget his media training. Smooth nailed it.
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Wild overreactions - "umm... well, this is awkward" edition:
- multiple things that are true:
1. We were down our starting and (apparently) backup PG. BTW I'm not sure I had Aberdeen as our backup lead ball-handler, but maybe he'll do fine there over the course of the season. Looked fine against Purdue.
2. We shot poorly from 3, and while I haven't seen the advanced stats, by my count Georgetown shot 98.574% on tough midrange twos.
3. That was still an unacceptably bad performance in multiple facets. I know it's an exhibition, but I'm getting pretty tired of having embarrassing losses. And exhibition or not, getting run off the court at home by Georgetown definitely qualifies.
I'll go roughly in order of my concerns.
- Our guys looked like they didn't know that teams were allowed to play defense against them. Standing around, settling for early jumpers outside the flow of the offense, not cutting hard, and, worst of all, lazy turnover after lazy turnover. The physicality really, really, really bothered them. Guess what we're going to see every night in the SEC?
- um... are we sure we're going to have a good defense? I understand that Aberdeen and JQ are going to help significantly, but our complete inability to defend a simple ball screen was mind bottling. There was a play in the second half when we cut it to 10, they ran a PnR with Garrison's man at the top of the key, and Garrison just.... stayed up and tried to double team the guard. Even though our defender (think it was Johnson) actually got through the screen, which left Chandler on an island with the much bigger roll man... and predictably he gave up an and-one. Ballgame effectively over.
Is that scheme or personnel? Guessing the latter, given who was involved. We also did this sort of thing against Purdue a few times and got away with it because their bigs outside TKR are not as athletic.
- Rebounding, which looked great against Purdue, was pretty bad.
- Generally speaking,we just seem to periodically have an absolute clunker where we look like we have never picked up a basketball before and are shocked that we're supposed to play a game that day. Ohio State last year was an example, but there were others. BYU fans will tell you that Pope teams have a few of those a year. I'm not saying that's going to be a trend going forward, but... it had better not be.
- I'm not really that concerned about shooting percentages. It may or may not be good going forward, but coming into the season I thought that while this team may not shoot as well as last year's, it would hopefully make up for it by having a better shot diet - more 3s in the flow of the offense generated by the improvements in athleticism, more rim runs, more lobs, more free throws, etc. That remains to be seen.
- Moreno is going to struggle to defend multiple actions. Georgetown exploited that big time.
- Not going to pile on Garrison any more, but suffice it to say that I have concerns. Processing is not a skill that tends to improve significantly year-over-year.
- Thought Dioubate looked good and was up for the physicality. That's about all I have to say that's positive about that game.
- multiple things that are true:
1. We were down our starting and (apparently) backup PG. BTW I'm not sure I had Aberdeen as our backup lead ball-handler, but maybe he'll do fine there over the course of the season. Looked fine against Purdue.
2. We shot poorly from 3, and while I haven't seen the advanced stats, by my count Georgetown shot 98.574% on tough midrange twos.
3. That was still an unacceptably bad performance in multiple facets. I know it's an exhibition, but I'm getting pretty tired of having embarrassing losses. And exhibition or not, getting run off the court at home by Georgetown definitely qualifies.
I'll go roughly in order of my concerns.
- Our guys looked like they didn't know that teams were allowed to play defense against them. Standing around, settling for early jumpers outside the flow of the offense, not cutting hard, and, worst of all, lazy turnover after lazy turnover. The physicality really, really, really bothered them. Guess what we're going to see every night in the SEC?
- um... are we sure we're going to have a good defense? I understand that Aberdeen and JQ are going to help significantly, but our complete inability to defend a simple ball screen was mind bottling. There was a play in the second half when we cut it to 10, they ran a PnR with Garrison's man at the top of the key, and Garrison just.... stayed up and tried to double team the guard. Even though our defender (think it was Johnson) actually got through the screen, which left Chandler on an island with the much bigger roll man... and predictably he gave up an and-one. Ballgame effectively over.
Is that scheme or personnel? Guessing the latter, given who was involved. We also did this sort of thing against Purdue a few times and got away with it because their bigs outside TKR are not as athletic.
- Rebounding, which looked great against Purdue, was pretty bad.
- Generally speaking,we just seem to periodically have an absolute clunker where we look like we have never picked up a basketball before and are shocked that we're supposed to play a game that day. Ohio State last year was an example, but there were others. BYU fans will tell you that Pope teams have a few of those a year. I'm not saying that's going to be a trend going forward, but... it had better not be.
- I'm not really that concerned about shooting percentages. It may or may not be good going forward, but coming into the season I thought that while this team may not shoot as well as last year's, it would hopefully make up for it by having a better shot diet - more 3s in the flow of the offense generated by the improvements in athleticism, more rim runs, more lobs, more free throws, etc. That remains to be seen.
- Moreno is going to struggle to defend multiple actions. Georgetown exploited that big time.
- Not going to pile on Garrison any more, but suffice it to say that I have concerns. Processing is not a skill that tends to improve significantly year-over-year.
- Thought Dioubate looked good and was up for the physicality. That's about all I have to say that's positive about that game.
If anyone plans on coming up for the Champions Classic… hit me up. Ill be pregaming at Demsey’s around 4:00.
Need more Mo D and less Colin C.
If OO wants to be an NBA player he needs to be able to initiate some kind of offense for someone other than himself.
It did feel intentional that we didn't really change or adjust schemes at all.
The lazy half speed we were playing at was my biggest peeve. The last month we've been force fed how competitive these guys were. We'll see.
Still like my team.
If OO wants to be an NBA player he needs to be able to initiate some kind of offense for someone other than himself.
It did feel intentional that we didn't really change or adjust schemes at all.
The lazy half speed we were playing at was my biggest peeve. The last month we've been force fed how competitive these guys were. We'll see.
Still like my team.
I thought CC would smooth out some of his game this year off the layoff. Shots just never look like they are automatic, passes were uneven, just a half step behind in timing, not necessarily speed.
OO never a guarantee from outside, so they clog middle on him.
Gonna need someone to step up with consistent outside shoouting to free the middle.
OO never a guarantee from outside, so they clog middle on him.
Gonna need someone to step up with consistent outside shoouting to free the middle.
Oweh gets a perma pass from my crew for some reason, but he was absolute dogshit. Casual, sloppy, and overall flippant smiling and laughing all game, with our 2 other main guards out while we got our **** pushed in all game. Was lazy on D, lost track of how many times he lost his man.
Didn't see one ounce of leadership, when we were desperate for it. You wanna be an AA leader, better shape up.
Didn't see one ounce of leadership, when we were desperate for it. You wanna be an AA leader, better shape up.
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Yeah, I'm pumping the breaks on the SEC POTY hype with Oweh. He is going to need to take a massive leap in terms of playmaking and consistent engagement on defense to do that. Maybe he will. But last year it felt like he was our "star" because he was the most athletic guy on the team and he was able to exploit gaps in the defense created by the gravity of our shooters, which led to consistent offense. Having an elite passing offensive hub in Williams didn't hurt either. It's not like we really ran a ton of stuff for him. And he still had a tendency to try to do it all himself when the offense got bogged down.
I have faith the staff will unlock his offense.. but it's not going to come as easy as it did last year, IMO, weird as that might be to say.
No excuses for the ball-watching on defense though. Really think it's all effort/engagement on that end with him.
I have faith the staff will unlock his offense.. but it's not going to come as easy as it did last year, IMO, weird as that might be to say.
No excuses for the ball-watching on defense though. Really think it's all effort/engagement on that end with him.
90% if we offer him in the same window as Ark,etc
10% if LSU offers him
I am the biggest Sumrall homer on the planet. I’ve watched his team three times play like
. As a uk football fan, we all know what football looks like.Don’t know what’s going on. As a UK fan we have to factor in that it is Mitch doing the hiring.
I’ll take Sumrall if Mitch is my AD. He will get us back to the 7-5-8-4 type teams.
You people who claim Mitch is a great AD really are some of the dumbest ******* I have ever ran across.
With that said, our HR is out there for us. We just don’t have the man to make it happen. That’s the damn truth too.
Mercifully I needed to be somewhere else during the second half. Everyone was horrible but Jasper Johnson shot Georgetown into the lead they never gave up early in the first half. It's as if he saw the Georgetown on their chests and decided he wanted to be Allen Iverson.
Pretty ghetto when Gtown's own media account posts a boast of running up the score in Rupp on a UK team missing 3 starters in an exhibition game.
As someone else said this was Ohio St bad. Every team has games like that but its not something that breeds confidence.
Pretty ghetto when Gtown's own media account posts a boast of running up the score in Rupp on a UK team missing 3 starters in an exhibition game.
As someone else said this was Ohio St bad. Every team has games like that but its not something that breeds confidence.
2012 didnt have games like that. 2015 didnt either. their three combined losses were against elite eight type teams.
maybe we just arent that good without three of four of our highest paid players.
Oweh isnt the type of player to carry a team by himself. Im not even really sure about how good of a leader he is. Like KSTA said he was able to drive the gaps created by teams hugging our shooters. We dont have anyone begging the attention that Brea or Robinson got last year. YET
maybe we just arent that good without three of four of our highest paid players.
Oweh isnt the type of player to carry a team by himself. Im not even really sure about how good of a leader he is. Like KSTA said he was able to drive the gaps created by teams hugging our shooters. We dont have anyone begging the attention that Brea or Robinson got last year. YET
Also hit a GD free throw.
Thanks
Thanks
-Prayers to Richie's family last night when I presume he tried to watch the game on tv.
-Hope I live long enough to see a win over Georgetown. I got my Duke payback in '98. Never got one for Georgetown in '84. I think the statute of limitations has passed on that anyway.
-Office asked if they could have a Halloween party and dress up. I told them no. I like to tell them no a lot because it lowers their morale to my level. I told them that if they came in dressed up today, it better be as an employee. Well, they did but one came in dressed up as me because I didn't specify what employee. The offending party didn't commit to the bald head but wore a UK cap instead. I admitted defeat. Well played.
-Hope I live long enough to see a win over Georgetown. I got my Duke payback in '98. Never got one for Georgetown in '84. I think the statute of limitations has passed on that anyway.
-Office asked if they could have a Halloween party and dress up. I told them no. I like to tell them no a lot because it lowers their morale to my level. I told them that if they came in dressed up today, it better be as an employee. Well, they did but one came in dressed up as me because I didn't specify what employee. The offending party didn't commit to the bald head but wore a UK cap instead. I admitted defeat. Well played.
I think Oweh is still knocking off the rust from his summer injury as well (was on a minutes restriction against Purdue). He's never been much of a leader but Lowe will provide a lot of that once he's back.
Lol... Duke payback was six years after the 92 game. But since I was 13 during the first game and 19 during our second, it felt like an eternity. Georgetown game was 41 years ago! That would be like us in 98 saying we want payback on our loss against Seattle in the finals of 57. J/K we beat those bastards to win the title, but you know what I mean.
90% if we offer him in the same window as Ark,etc
10% if LSU offers him
I am the biggest Sumrall homer on the planet. I’ve watched his team three times play like
Don’t know what’s going on. As a UK fan we have to factor in that it is Mitch doing the hiring.
I’ll take Sumrall if Mitch is my AD. He will get us back to the 7-5-8-4 type teams.
You people who claim Mitch is a great AD really are some of the dumbest ******* I have ever ran across.
With that said, our HR is out there for us. We just don’t have the man to make it happen. That’s the damn truth too.
Tulane laid an egg last night but you had to think it was coming some time with all of the chatter around their HC. I won’t be mad if he’s the next guy but I’m not overly enamored with him either.
Who is the HR hire you are referring too?
Every team that is not S tier historically.
Putting this years squad in the same conversation as those two teams is pretty ridiculous.
Our senior Wooden award nominee has a jump shot that is janky AF, as the kids say. Colin Chandler looks like a cancer patient (not being funny), he's so skinny. I get the Mormon clean living and all, but he needs to eat at least. He could stand to be like the rest of us and plump up in the months after marriage.
Yes but a young BBBD took it pretty hard. This was my first "favorite" team and this was following the Dream Game loss. If nothing else, would be nice not to be ofer against someone.
RMR-86 is a miracle fix.
Sprayed it on drywall that had stained and grown black mold and 15 seconds later, like they promised, it was all completely gone. Blown away with the results.
(air handler sits above the drywall and the condesant line leaked water through).
Sprayed it on drywall that had stained and grown black mold and 15 seconds later, like they promised, it was all completely gone. Blown away with the results.
(air handler sits above the drywall and the condesant line leaked water through).
84 Georgetown, 86 LSU, 92 Duke, and 15 Wisconsin were just on whole other level of pain, anger, disappointment
WVU is on my basketball Mt Mushmore.
My football disappointments are a fuggin hellscape littered on a burning sea of tears.
My football disappointments are a fuggin hellscape littered on a burning sea of tears.
93 Michigan actually hit me the hardest. The end of Mash.
BTW, wrestling is fake dude. They're all trained on how to fall and it's all pretend fighting.
This new On3 platform is so asś-janky it identifies ignored members then displays the ignored content anyway. It’s like whack-a-mole of shítty experience.
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I just spent 30 minutes typing out a great set of randoms on a slow day. I go to hit Post Reply and it just disappears into the abyss of ON3 I guess, never to be seen again. 
Lord, forgive us for all of out CatPaw sins and give us the old board back. 
Lord, forgive us for all of out CatPaw sins and give us the old board back.
As a youtubetv subscriber I am not going out of my way to watch this game. Eff them.
All of the above, plus On3 and UKO
What's ironic is that he wouldn't have hurt himself if he was legitimately trying to knock his opponent on his *** and not just playing patty cakes in jorts. Great point tho! Damn, you showed me!
Both coaches should be fired for this miscarriage of televised boredom.