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- All year, what truly made this team special is the fact- it could take a punch. We didn't have to play our best game and we could still win. Proved that again Saturday.

- Made our last 9 FGs. Who does that- especially in such a pressure-packed situation?

- Well, we're going to have to earn it. Two more heavy-weight bouts. There's going to be nothing comfortable about either game. Get ready.
 

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I really shouldn't ***** about the media perspective on this game, but it annoys the piss out of me when they act like these are the same two teams that played last April.
 

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Push off? Walk? Definite heart attack tho...

 

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Originally posted by ctharris07:
Dekker is my one fear. Would be nice to have Poythress to put on him.






Said this a month ago in re: to my worries about Wisconsin. We don't have anyone who can appear to check him. I mean, I guess you throw WCS on him but Dekker will hover around the perimeter all day but I don't feel great about Willie chasing him around the 3-point line all night not influencing **** down low.

Lyles would get absolutely abused off the bounce so that's not really an option, IMO. Maybe put a smaller guy like Booker on him and force him to get his in the paint over the top, thus hopefully negating a lot of Kaminsky in the post flopping around like an effing ***** fish.

I don't have any stats to back it up and may be completely off but other than the E8 game where EVERYONE went off, it appears very seldom both Kaminsky and Dekker go off in the same game. To me, it's usually one or the other so pick your poison, I guess? I'd rather Kaminsky get his and really focus on Dekker. He's a killer. Will really miss AP for this one. Ugh.

*2nd edit. Grief, I can't put a sentence together this AM.
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-Notre Dame and Wisky can shoot, but other than that are completely different. What a lazy comparison and I've heard Wisky is just a better ND about 15 times.

ND was a legit top 10 team and the one team I didn't want to see in the tourney before the F4. They were really good and Brey had them ready.

ND killed us, per usual, with quick athletic guards breaking us down to start. Obviously, we were fine with that and not going to help to prevent an onslaught of wide open 3's. I just don't see that happening with Wisconsin. They can beat us in several other ways but we're going to see 2 very efficient teams running right into each other. Neither has to take a lot of chances.

Hopefully the dome effect rewards us for 2011 because both teams we play is going to need 3's to beat us.

-How damn good is Justice Winslow? Shew. I'd love to have that dude. Such a freak. I figured it would be Johnson > Oubre > Winslow this year but damn Justice getting it flat done in the late season.

-Gotta be able to score to beat us, even on an slightly off night, and our 3 last games are going to be all teams that can do that. 1 down. Thankfully they all have pretty crappy D's.
 

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Seems like we have most of our problems with teams that can spread you out and attack the rim. If we don't block the shot, its either going in or we give up the offensive board and put back. Notre Dame excelled at this.
 

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@ the who do you want taking the big shots? Aaron ices a cool 3 from the Hash. Drew calls for a clear out, drive, hard step, foul and 2 stone cold FT's.

-Don't want booker on Dekker, maybe Aaron if you want WCS shadowing the paint?

-Andrew's hops on that last play
 

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And I don't want to chalk this up to typical bitching from miserable ol' Geese but Cal is one lucky mofo'er we wore ND down (tightened up) and made our last 9 straight field goals because his personnel stratgegy against the Irish's small ball was downright deplorable.

I would have loved for someone in the media to bring up what exactly Dakari Johnson was doing in the game in the 2nd half. Grant nuked him on a pump fake at the top of the key and big fella got lost again in that scramble with Grant's 30' bomb at the end of the shot clock. But that's not really the guy's fault. He had zero business being out there contending with the small ball and wasn't put in a position to be successful.

Where on God's green earth was Marcus Lee? Why bring a slow-footed behemoth out to defend against an offense predicated on speed and space? Of course they're going to bring Dakari's man out to force a switch. Then it's game over. Lee hedges and recovers extremely well. That game was tailor made for his energy/activity. Instead Dakari effing Johnson is out there on an island and it almost screwed us. Man, having a 6'10 agile jumping jack out there gliding around would have been dope.

That one would have entirely been on Cal and I might have never recovered from that. It would have been up there with Pitino not putting a man on the inbounds passer with 'all time X&O blunders of UK lore which people will talk about on a 30 for 30 twenty years from now'



Glad it's over and done with but man, the 1) inability to recognize this or 2) the stubbornness not to make the necessary adjustments (most likely) went way beyond alarming and would've sent me to the funny farm had we not escaped. Lee has earned the right to be out there on the big stage when it matters.

*more edits _ HOORAY



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Does any talking head criticism ring more hollow today than the standard "well, i'd like to see how they play when they get in a close game against a good team when it really counts?"
 

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Doesnt look like many are giving MSU a chance against Duke, but they are totally different teams now than they were early in the year. I think both games are gonna be classic.
 

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So let me explain to you what the (corrupt) NCAA is doing these days with the Final Four.

-They locked down almost all of the hotels in the entire city and certainly all of the prime hotels.
-They gave the teams less than 20% of the tickets.
-They are selling the tickets and hotels to obvious ticket scalpers as official partners and prices are getting jacked WAY up.

For instance:
-Hilton down town $3500 per person for a standard room F-Tu($1700/night) and if you want to upgrade to sideline lowers +4000 person.


So for a standard room and lower courtside from the official partner travel site, a cool $15,000.

Look, I have no problem with supply/demand but for an institution that is so sanctimonious and about the "college athlete" this is disgusting what they're doing. How has this not be addressed by the media? This isn't travel companies putting this stuff together on their own, this is the NCAA locking everything down and sell directly to these people.


Hopefully UK comes through. Yesh.
 

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Originally posted by anthonys735:
So let me explain to you what the (corrupt) NCAA is doing these days with the Final Four.

-They locked down almost all of the hotels in the entire city and certainly all of the prime hotels.
-They gave the teams less than 20% of the tickets.
-They are selling the tickets and hotels to obvious ticket scalpers as official partners and prices are getting jacked WAY up.

For instance:
-Hilton down town $3500 per person for a standard room F-Tu($1700/night) and if you want to upgrade to sideline lowers +4000 person.


So for a standard room and lower courtside from the official partner travel site, a cool $15,000.

Look, I have no problem with supply/demand but for an institution that is so sanctimonious and about the "college athlete" this is disgusting what they're doing. How has this not be addressed by the media? This isn't travel companies putting this stuff together on their own, this is the NCAA locking everything down and sell directly to these people.


Hopefully UK comes through. Yesh.
This is the type of s*** that makes me truly debate the value of attending the game versus watching it in Lexington. Not the money, PEAR SAY, but the way it's designed prices the "normal" fan out of the equation. Much like the Super Bowl, it's like they're turning it into exclusive country club party for big wigs and corporate execs.

I mean, in any given year, what percentage of Super Bowl attendees are actual fans of either team? 10%? 15?

If the majority of the folks attending only got their tickets thru some sponsorship program or corporate partnership, that's pretty weak. Regardless of what Century Cat thinks, Billy Joe Wildcat is the fuel to the Big Blue fire.
 

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All I can say is thank goodness my buddy got chosen in the lottery and we are going for face value ($210 per). It's the nosebleed corners but we will be in the building. It's truly ridiculous how the whole process works. I am charged $440 on my credit card only to be notified I did not get chosen and $20 will be kept as a holding fee.
....what a touching joke.

Nice meeting Boat. Well done on the lassie, cool chick and her friend was not too shabby herself. Should have stuck around but the crowd was ridiculous and drink line was intolerable. Perfect set up for the game however.

4 long days in the office

Indy
 

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****, that's WAY out of Billy Joe Wildcat's range. We're talking several months pay for most normal fans.

Now, if you're smart and put out enough effort you can get in much easier and for much less.

$400 night for a room and probably $1000(2 tickets) in the range you can actually see and enjoy the game. Then the Monday tickets are typically pretty easy.
 

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Well, put me down as "needing advice" how how to 'be smart and put out enough effort'.

Hotel booked at $228 per night, but pretty damned concerned about ticket prices at this point.
 

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Think I might pull the Llama move and just head up there Monday AM and get some tix upon arrival and drive back that night solo.

I can't justify what Saturday tix are going for...

Outside of the Dekker mismatch, I really think we play well against the Badgahs and move on relatively comfortably. Our close call with ND and Wiscy's absurd offensive display against Zona bode well for us, IMO.

Media will be piggy-backing those outcomes pimping Wisconsin all week and I think Cal will use that for leverage. The honks won't shoot like that in Lucas Oil and we won't have the same difficulty guarding either.
 
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The Sweet 16/Elite 8 is BY FAR the best bang for your buck in the NCAA Tournament play. Reasonably priced hotel rooms. Good tickets for $150-200/game.

First/Second Round games are usually overpriced, considering the games are rarely exciting...at least for the best teams.

The Final Four has become the Super Bowl, and is priced accordingly. Monday night is always the best route to go, as 75,000 is a lot of tickets to get rid of, considering 2 teams fanbases will leave. If you can't get in for face value on Monday night, I'd be shocked.
 

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The tough part is over if you have a room for a reasonable rate. Now you're just going to have to get out there and look for tickets. Wait until game time, have a budget, memorize the seating chart and be sober enough to negotiate. I'd start now. A few of us have some scalper connections that you may be able to use. Rooms are the really tough part. You can get tickets
 

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Always wondered the Pro Scalper's strategy when it comes to events like these.

How late is too late in terms of them holding onto tickets, or being greedy with value? I'd assume the risk is substantial in terms of getting stuck with lots of unsold tix...or nah? I'd bet most of them have been burned plenty of times over the years, at least early on when they were 'learning' the game.

Probably be a good book idea, if there is/was one about a Serious Scalper's life.
 

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Originally posted by wildcat1973:
The Sweet 16/Elite 8 is BY FAR the best bang for your buck in the NCAA Tournament play. Reasonably priced hotel rooms. Good tickets for $150-200/game.

First/Second Round games are usually overpriced, considering the games are rarely exciting...at least for the best teams.

The Final Four has become the Super Bowl, and is priced accordingly. Monday night is always the best route to go, as 75,000 is a lot of tickets to get rid of, considering 2 teams fanbases will leave. If you can't get in for face value on Monday night, I'd be shocked.
Exactly, which is why I posted a few days ago urging people to come to Cleveland. Definitely the best bag for your buck. Typically really good teams and games still in basketball friendly arenas.

Saturday is going to be a **** show. 3 MASSIVE passionate fan bases and 1 traditional power.
 
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Cal - admittedly - had no answer for the side pick-and-roll stuff Notre Dame was running. I love the guy, but it's because of stuff like that that I'm not sure his second NBA stint would end any better than his first. It's not just him, though. 99% of college guys simply don't have the X-and-O chops to thrive in the NBA. It's a completely different game. Brad Stevens is the rare exception, and that's why we'll never see him in college again.
 

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Yeah, this Final Four is ridiculous. I get what Century was saying, a destination final four makes it easier for some of us to get in on the travel package (like me last year). I mean if Anth is "worried" about getting tickets from UK, you know the demand is unreal.

I get what Pti is saying too. Honestly, think I'm sitting Saturday out and watching here. Just sounds miserable driving up and back, spending a "vacation" on one game, when I could get a fun wildcat experience here too...plus screw the NCAA and their price gouging.

Of course, I was pissed off I missed Cleveland this weekend. Just something about being there, seeing history in the making...So yeah, I'll probably cruise up Sunday or Monday.

Residence Inn downtown opened up, act fast guys. Just $1299/nt !!!!!!

Sold my nosebleeds online for a cool $500 profit, should have held out. Unreal what people are paying for absolutely awful seats.
 

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Originally posted by B.B.d.K.:
Always wondered the Pro Scalper's strategy when it comes to events like these.

How late is too late in terms of them holding onto tickets, or being greedy with value? I'd assume the risk is substantial in terms of getting stuck with lots of unsold tix...or nah? I'd bet most of them have been burned plenty of times over the years, at least early on when they were 'learning' the game.

Probably be a good book idea, if there is/was one about a Serious Scalper's life.
There was a really in depth article on a scalper following him around and to the Super Bowl a few years ago. You can probably find that.
 

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The NCAA's price gouging version of the Final Four for two costs more than that ridiculously expensive Bahamas trip (9 days). This is the first city it's been THIS bad and it's because there are less prime downtown rooms and they blocked them all. We had no trouble in other Final Four cities booking hotel rooms well in advance and not paying the high rate. It was not even an option for Indy. So everything being within walking distance is nice, but that's about it for this locale. Plus, it's above the Mason Dixon line and I don't think any March Madness games should be help where there's a chance it could be cold and snowy.
 

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I mean this is Ok now? Marcus put the Phoenix Gorilla suit on him. The amount of vulgarities I spewed when this happened was maybe a record.

 

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That was ridiculous, Booker.

I almost knocked myself out tapping my head vigorously on that shot clock violation the last minute of the game. I haven't seen a good replay. Was there really a second left when it went out?

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Originally posted by Wodie Sloot:
That was ridiculous, Booker.

I almost knocked myself out tapping my head vigorously on that shot clock violation the last minute of the game. I haven't seen a good replay. Was there really a second left when it went out?

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a few tenths of a second. Not a full second. It was close but was the right call.
 

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Will drop in this little suggestion and then go back to lurking. Have spoken to a couple of local limo services and found that we can get a 12 seat Mercedes limo van to take us to/from Indy from Nashville for about $125/person. All Captains chairs, a driver, wet bar, TV/DVD, etc. It's 288 miles from Nashville to Indy, a little over 4 hours. Leave late Monday morning, a few cocktails on the drive up, pre-game celebration, game, post-game celebrate, try to sleep on the way home.

Certainly not as fun as a hotel, but a Hell of a lot less expensive and the drive back and forth much more enjoyable. If we make the Finals Monday night, this will happen. Stubhub tix should be somewhat reasonable after Saturday's games.

With Louisville and Lexington being only 2 and 3 hours away, would even be less of a cost and a hassle.


Or, spend a little more and get a 7 seater with more room.



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After Cleveland I'm good on UK sports travel for a bit. Thrilled to be watching the Final Four on TV, actually.

Gracious... that was a weekend.
 

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I *knew* that ND 1 second shot clock play was somehow going to result in a tip off the rim and an offensive rebound. Its unreal the doomsday scenarios that go through my head at times like that.
 

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Originally posted by CClarkUK:
Its unreal the doomsday scenarios that go through my head at times like that.
Mine was that we weren't going to get a shot off. And then we may have went a tad early giving them 6 seconds. I kept trying to think positive.

I have somehow convinced myself not to be worried about games all season. I've just thought we were going to win. But I was nervous all weekend (and since brackets came out) about Notre Dame. So all game I was blaming it on myself.

The real question for Saturday is, should Anth eat altoids during the game or not? He normally mows through 1/2-3/4 of a box of altoids during a game. He stopped eating them at some point on Saturday toward the end of the game.
 

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Originally posted by CClarkUK:
I *knew* that ND 1 second shot clock play was somehow going to result in a tip off the rim and an offensive rebound. Its unreal the doomsday scenarios that go through my head at times like that.
Thought the same thing.

'Watch these mother touchers get a long offensive rebound here and win this game. Just watch. We won't even get the ball back'.

Wasn't the best draw-up from Brey,thankfully. Should have thrown something up near the rim for a catch/tip and a prayer of a foul call. I don't know how much time technically was left when the shot clock read 1 second but it had to be less than half, right?



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Got lucky with the tickets via lottery. Garbage seats, but we're in the building at least.

Gonna try to upgrade, but as above these prices are absurd.

-Also supposed to be getting a room through UK, a little worried about that price though. A friend is taking care of it, so we haven't heard the details yet.

-Never been to a final four in my life. Can't touching wait.