Hank or Heck?

[Hawksfor3]

Both will have meaningful snaps in second half he say… just like both will play in the Iowa state game… oh wait.

Non-Committal to one QB. The old, "We have two QBs that can help us win." Stock Answer.

 

[3-D_chess]

168-11

I luv the fact there are silly people posting as if, "it's close folks, we've made a lot of good points supporting our take"

KF has had a pair of true DT-QBs in Banks and Gronk that were given a shot at being starters. Both delivered. I hope Kirk understands that is a 100% hit rate.

 

[IA79Cam]

Its the Simms vs Applewhite debate
Its measurables"height, arm strength" vs actual production.

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

FS1 is showing a quick replay of the game tonight at 7:30 CST.

 

[3-D_chess]

FS1 is showing a quick replay of the game tonight at 7:30 CST.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Yes. 3 and outs do a lot to improve your defense's performance

??? No. They don't.

Especially when the clock stops with incompletions.

That's part of why a running game is the D's best friend

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Who will start next game? I don't know. Ask Tim...Oh wait!

I like Lester, but is it too much to ask that he know who our next opponent is?

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

??? No. They don't.

Especially when the clock stops with incompletions.

That's part of why a running game is the D's best friend

 

[Jonesy5960]

I like Lester, but is it too much to ask that he know who our next opponent is?

He's keeping everyone guessing about everything. 3 D chess baby.

 

[eyesofhawk]

No, I didn't.

It's just that his "point" isn't applicable. And he and I have been over it before.

I happen to believe that more consecutive run attempts would have led to more successful drives this season. Not 3 and outs.

He can disagree with that all he wants. But he has no proof, as Iowa has barely attempted the consecutive runs vs ISU, Michigan, and OSU, to have failed and proven him right.

Then we saw the success that came with consecutive runs vs Washington.

Add in the fact that TL said in the presser today that he could have called more runs to help the running game vs Michigan and OSU, and Gray's contention looks incredibly weak

 

[3-D_chess]

He's keeping everyone guessing about everything. 3-D_chess baby.

 

[Trakker]

168-11

I luv the fact there are silly people posting as if, "it's close folks, we've made a lot of good points supporting our take"

KF has had a pair of true DT-QBs in Banks and Gronk that were given a shot at being starters. Both delivered. I hope Kirk understands that is a 100% hit rate.

We dont have a dual threat QB in our two deeps

 

[3-D_chess]

We dont have a dual threat QB in our two deeps

Not pure ... but ... ish

https://hawkeyeswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/hawkeyes/football/2025/10/07/iowa-football-qb-sam-phillips-jeremy-hecklinski/86568451007/

Can we agree that Hank and Heck have some difference in their skill sets?
No.
Okay.

 

[eyesofhawk]

We dont have a dual threat QB in our two deeps

Not pure ... but ... ish

https://hawkeyeswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/hawkeyes/football/2025/10/07/iowa-football-qb-sam-phillips-jeremy-hecklinski/86568451007/

Can we agree that Hank and Heck have some difference in their skill sets?
No.
Okay.

Nothing close to a dual threat

 

[3-D_chess]

Nothing close to a dual threat

Well you made Trakker happy. Having you as his intellectual equal is quite the feather.

 

[3-D_chess]

I do have half the board on ignore so for the troll I missed, here's some food ...

Iowa wide receiver Sam Phillips, who spent time in the Southeast at Chattanooga before transferring to Iowa, is familiar with Jeremy Hecklinski's skills and commented on his dual-threat abilities.

I know I know. There is no way Sam Phillips has more insight into Heck's skill-set than bots on this board.

 

[eyesofhawk]

I do have half the board on ignore so for the troll I missed, here's some food ...

Iowa wide receiver Sam Phillips, who spent time in the Southeast at Chattanooga before transferring to Iowa, is familiar with Jeremy Hecklinski's skills and commented on his dual-threat abilities.

I know I know. There is no way Sam Phillips has more insight into Heck's skill-set than bots on this board.

Seriously bro, I saw the link the first time.

Both you and the journalist are mischaracterizing Sam's words.

Sam said Heck, "likes to extend the play. Can maneuver around, scramble around a bit."

None of that means Heck is a dual threat.

What we have here is wildly lazy journalism. And an inability by you to think for yourself and use your eyes

 

[3-D_chess]

I didn't read his post.
Is he still arguing that there is no difference in the skill set between Hank and Heck?
I've rewatched the season.
If there are 2 open receivers on a play ... one being short range and the other being not short range, Hank tends to choose the guy closer to the LOS.
Heck on the other hand is much more willing to throw the ball down the field.
Hank has had the gunslinger coached out of him, which probably explains why he is the Captain's first choice.
Drew Tate is what gives me hope. Heck has some Tate-fire in him. Heck certainly has more in common with Drew than Hank. Maybe the HC will see that?

 

[r_desihawk]

Who will start next game? I don't know. Ask Tim...Oh wait!

1. about qbs he said “who is going to play against wisconsin?” someone please inform lester that we play mn after the bye
2. 100-% hank will be back as starter after bye based on vid
3. can’t help but be super positive after hearing lester talk but he’s needs to walk the talk

 

[squeezebox_1]

1. about qbs he said “who is going to play against wisconsin?” someone please inform lester that we play mn after the bye
2. 100-% hank will be back as starter after bye based on vid
3. can’t help but be super positive after hearing lester talk but he’s needs to walk the talk

Brown isn't healthy yet, so that is going to be a factor, Eickholt stated that it was more about not disparaging Brown. It is also interesting that Kirk commented that Heck has been practicing well. It would not surprise me to see Brown as the starter, but we are certainly getting an OR this week.

 

[eyesofhawk]

I didn't read his post.
Is he still arguing that there is no difference in the skill set between Hank and Heck?
I've rewatched the season.
If there are 2 open receivers on a play ... one being short range and the other being not short range, Hank tends to choose the guy closer to the LOS.
Heck on the other hand is much more willing to throw the ball down the field.
Hank has had the gunslinger coached out of him, which probably explains why he is the Captain's first choice.
Drew Tate is what gives me hope. Heck has some Tate-fire in him. Heck certainly has more in common with Drew than Hank. Maybe the HC will see that?

I'm not advocating for either qb here.

But it absolutely blows my mind when fans try to analyze QB's decision making. What about all the action at the 3rd level that YOU CAN'T SEE, as it doesn't fit on the TV screen? Your username might as well be "Don'tTrustMe". Because you clearly don't have a respect for accurate representation of reality.

Did Hank ever have any gunslinger in him?

If it's been coached out of him, why hasn't it been coached out of Heck?

The Captain's first choice? Do you not remember an open competition that ran into the season? Do you not remember Hank winning the job?

Hopping onto virtually any of the Iowa football narratives is a sure fire way to make yourself look like an idiot

 

[eyesofhawk]

Again, not advocating for either qb here.

This is merely a commentary on fans.

For those of you saying the choice is obvious; if it's so obvious, why was almost nobody saying that before the Washington game?

 

[eyesofhawk]

I voted for Hawk

 

[squeezebox_1]

I'm not advocating for either qb here.

But it absolutely blows my mind when fans try to analyze QB's decision making. What about all the action at the 3rd level that YOU CAN'T SEE, as it doesn't fit on the TV screen? Your username might as well be "Don'tTrustMe". Because you clearly don't have a respect for accurate representation of reality.

Did Hank ever have any gunslinger in him?

If it's been coached out of him, why hasn't it been coached out of Heck?

The Captain's first choice? Do you not remember an open competition that ran into the season? Do you not remember Hank winning the job?

Hopping onto virtually any of the Iowa football narratives is a sure fire way to make yourself look like an idiot

If you want the film with different views, you have to apply for media credentials. Since you continue with this nonsense, you know who does have those credentials and talks about it? The ANF podcast, and they state directly that Heck takes more shots down field. They also state that Brown has a much better arm.

 

[eyesofhawk]

If you want the film with different views, you have to apply for media credentials. Since you continue with this nonsense, you know who does have those credentials and talks about it? The ANF podcast, and they state directly that Heck takes more shots down field. They also state that Brown has a much better arm.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my point

 

[squeezebox_1]

I'm not advocating for either qb here.

But it absolutely blows my mind when fans try to analyze QB's decision making. What about all the action at the 3rd level that YOU CAN'T SEE, as it doesn't fit on the TV screen?

I'll help trigger that memory.

 

[eyesofhawk]

I'll help trigger that memory.

Yes, I'm aware.

Did 3D cite the ANF podcast, or all-access camera angles? No.

He said he rewatched the season, which gives him no ability to speak accurately about action not fitted on the tv screen

 

[squeezebox_1]

Yes, I'm aware.

Did 3D cite the ANF podcast, or all-access camera angles? No.

He said he rewatched the season, which gives him no ability to speak accurately about action not fitted on the tv screen

Since I posted endozne views from the niu game, everyone on this board has that ability. Are you done?

 

[eyesofhawk]

Since I posted endozne views from the niu game, everyone on this board has that ability. Are you done?

Did those NIU stills come with a link to every play of the season?

Even if it did, stills don't necessarily paint the whole picture, as fans don't know the progression for each play, and where the QB's eyes should be.

Furthermore, when those stills get narrated by fans, it's pretty much disaster. Just like the still you posted from the Michigan game, that I dismantled.

But AGAIN, all of this is besides the point, because 3D only cited his info having come from him rewatching the season.

My point is about fans. Has nothing to do with the play of Hank/Heck. I didn't realize that's so impossible to understand.

And you're the one that took contention with my post. So, are you done?

 

[squeezebox_1]

Did those NIU stills come with a link to every play of the season?

Even if it did, stills don't necessarily paint the whole picture, as fans don't know the progression for each play, and where the QB's eyes should be.

Furthermore, when those stills get narrated by fans, it's pretty much disaster. Just like the still you posted from the Michigan game, that I dismantled.

But AGAIN, all of this is besides the point, because 3D only cited his info having come from him rewatching the season.

My point is about fans. Has nothing to do with the play of Hank/Heck. I didn't realize that's so impossible to understand.

And you're the one that took contention with my post. So, are you done?

Stills? They are videos. You have no contention other than to be contrarian. A decent number of us go to the games as well, so like the Ohio State game, where there were open WRs you may not be able to see from the TV, you can see it in person. I get it that your favorite past time is to be a douche and derail threads, so once again, I'll stop here. Have at it.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Stills? They are videos. You have no contention other than to be contrarian. A decent number of us go to the games as well, so like the Ohio State game, where there were open WRs you may not be able to see from the TV, you can see it in person. I get it that your favorite past time is to be a douche and derail threads, so once again, I'll stop here. Have at it.

OK. Even with video, or with seeing it in person (as if you've actually attended all 6 games), fans aren't qualified to speak on a QB's progressions.

I was trying to present some compelling logic (by pointing out the action not seen on the tv screen), rather than simply saying fans aren't qualified to speak accurately on the subject. Because we know how allergic fans are to accepting that truth.

But AGAIN, none of this has to do with my point.

3D did not cite videos, or having been there in person. He spoke as if he were presenting truth. And (whether true or not) he only cited a source that in no way could have presented complete information