Yes, it’s your job to offer proof of an argument you make. Sorry, that’s how arguments work.
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Yes, it’s your job to offer proof of an argument you make. Sorry, that’s how arguments work.
You turkeys heard this stuff from me on crime starting in late 2023 and on ODs 12-15 months ago.
This was obviously coming.
More info coming out Dtrain. We might be over sensationalizing this. At the same time, I think you are minimizing what was going on at that island and in New Mexico. What were the gynos doing for Epstein? According to emails, it looks like he was sending victims to more than 1.
Jeffrey Epstein made regular payments to Ohio State head of gynecology, records show
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) — Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein paid Ohio State University’s head of gynecology quarterly payments of thousands of dollars, Department of Justice files sh…www.nbc4i.com
The hype machine on these from Bangladeshi Twitter accounts is going to be off the charts.
There was no conspiracy. I cite to the lawyer who literally represented 200 victims saying it after close to 20 years of litigation, and it’s dismissed in favor of Twitter accounts.
Your buddy on this wants to believe because he hates both political parties so far as I can tell. Still doesn’t make it true.
Many, many people need to leave “politics as a hobby.” That’s not directed at you.
And deranged Dteain is unable to read a graph. Deaths have dropped off a cliff - a real band pass filter. There is a gentle decline and data that can obviously be correlated to a truly secure border and an administration determined to stop drug runners.
Full credit to Trump
I think you replied to the wrong thread.
I actually know the data on this. I will provide it. It lags btw.
Here is the actual data, which I already knew. The number from each month is a rolling 12 month average.
1. OD deaths peaked at about 111K annually in the month of October 2023.
2. When Trump took office in January 2025, that number was down 32K to 79K.
3. The most recent month reported is for ODs through August 2025. It is down another 7K from January to 72K.
80% of the decline occurred under Biden. Full credit to Trump for sure.
Btw, none of this had anything to do with a President. It spiked due to Covid-induced chaos in people’s lives. Most of that is the disruption caused by shutdowns I believe, so hold whoever was shutting down responsible.
www.cdc.gov
1. OD deaths peaked at about 111K annually in the month of October 2023.
2. When Trump took office in January 2025, that number was down 32K to 79K.
3. The most recent month reported is for ODs through August 2025. It is down another 7K from January to 72K.
80% of the decline occurred under Biden. Full credit to Trump for sure.
Btw, none of this had anything to do with a President. It spiked due to Covid-induced chaos in people’s lives. Most of that is the disruption caused by shutdowns I believe, so hold whoever was shutting down responsible.
Products - Vital Statistics Rapid Release - Provisional Drug Overdose Data
Map and trend line show provisional national counts and state-level percent changes in overdose deaths—updated monthly
www.cdc.gov
Here’s another source on the big OD drop starting in the second half of 2023.
Ironically, I did predict mid last year the Trump fans would be crowing about the crime and OD drops in 2025 (continuing trends that began in 2022 and 2023 respectively).
It would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad that reality can’t pierce political arguments, whether it be Trump’s war on drugs (a good thing, tho maybe it could be less lethal in interdiction) or Epstein.
Ironically, I did predict mid last year the Trump fans would be crowing about the crime and OD drops in 2025 (continuing trends that began in 2022 and 2023 respectively).
It would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad that reality can’t pierce political arguments, whether it be Trump’s war on drugs (a good thing, tho maybe it could be less lethal in interdiction) or Epstein.
Of course crime started going down, but that significant drop in Fentanyl is from Trump shutting down the border. His eo’s stopped human trafficking at the border, drugs coming through the open border, etc.
I gave you a like although I have no problem with the war on drugs being lethal business. I think that makes it more effective.
The rule of law says make arrests. I appreciate alternative impulses but ultimately my fealty lies with the law (not due to my profession).
This is a very complicated topic but yes it’s absolutely good Trump is targeting fentanyl. Biden did late in his term as well, but as with most problems these days Dems like to pretend they don’t exist even when they are taking action against them. Very weird.
