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Here’s a total far left dumb ***. It’s what one would expect from The Guardian, but he is a visiting professor at the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs. Another Ivy loser.

 

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It is regime change or failure. The Iranian regime was ruthless, killing and torturing dissenters. The heads may be dead but there is a large group of thugs whose survival requires the status quo. I hope whatever plans the US/Israel have to move them out of the way work. My fear is that spontaneous uprisal is not going to happen, so what is the alternative?
 
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It is regime change or failure. The Iranian regime was ruthless, killing and torturing dissenters. The heads may be dead but there is a large group of thugs whose survival requires the status quo. I hope whatever plans the US/Israel have to move them out of the way work. My fear is that spontaneous uprisal is not going to happen, so what is the alternative?
Rubio and Hegseth have been very good in their roles so far. Let's hope they can use minimal US troop involvement to secure the country for West friendly leaders. 🤞
 

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It is regime change or failure. The Iranian regime was ruthless, killing and torturing dissenters. The heads may be dead but there is a large group of thugs whose survival requires the status quo. I hope whatever plans the US/Israel have to move them out of the way work. My fear is that spontaneous uprisal is not going to happen, so what is the alternative?
So, first off, I think I posted it here already, but Treasury Dept can track all kinds of Iranian accounts moving their money and a bunch in the leadership circle are doing exactly that. How is IRGC going to wage war against its own people with no leadership? We/Israel took a lot of those military leaders out, too. We have been bombing police stations.

With the Iranian leaders being indiscriminate with their missiles, they’ve pissed off quite of few of their neighbor countries. I tend to think they will be helpful on the ground. We had to have teams in Iran when we bombed them last Summer even though our government told us “no boots on the ground”. Only 20% of Iranians are supposedly loyalists to the regime that is currently getting blown to bits.
 

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NATO is pretty useless when bases in their countries are off limits. All of these worthless Western European nations were up in arms over Greenland, but anti American when it comes to Iran.

Time to ditch it in favor of alliances with Eastern Europe and elsewhere.

 

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All of you anti Trump people who like what is happening in Iran better thank the people you call cultists. None of this happens by voting for Kamala or other.

I’m glad I could determine Dtrains fate.

 

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All of you anti Trump people who like what is happening in Iran better thank the people you call cultists. None of this happens by voting for Kamala or other.

I’m glad I could determine Dtrains fate.



Pretty certain George Will didn’t vote for Trump either, but like me he’s very happy with the FP.

Probably less so the tariffs.
 
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ILisBest

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NATO is pretty useless when bases in their countries are off limits. All of these worthless Western European nations were up in arms over Greenland, but anti American when it comes to Iran.

Time to ditch it in favor of alliances with Eastern Europe and elsewhere.


Probably time to take Diego Garcia from the Brits. They are not much help and the US Navy SeaBees built most of that island.
 

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NATO is pretty useless when bases in their countries are off limits. All of these worthless Western European nations were up in arms over Greenland, but anti American when it comes to Iran.

Time to ditch it in favor of alliances with Eastern Europe and elsewhere.


NATO outlived its original purpose and its repurpose isn’t worth it. The Eastern Europeans are much more in line with American values.

edit: We should just ask Denmark right now, if they think they stand a chance against us, and just take Greenland from them. Western European leadership is just one big giant *****.
 
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This is the disaster for the Iranian regime. By indiscriminately targeting its neighbor countries, those neighbors are allowing us to use their airspace/bases/our bases to prosecute our actions against them. Obviously we were using carrier forces and others long distance with refueling. Now we are going to be an hour and a half away or a bit more in some cases.

 

dtrain79

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Dtrain would probably get this one better than I would, but this seems quite unconstitutional and violates Federal law.



It's a freedom of speech issue for one. You have the absolute right to report a federal or state crime.

I suppose the legal question would be where the landlord reported a tenant who was LEGALLY in the country. That's a thornier issue. I'd need to see the law.
 

ILisBest

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MOD from Bill O:

It was a bit shocking to hear Kamala Harris urging Americans to oppose the military action against Iran. As Vice President, she watched as the Biden administration appeased the Mullahs and helped finance Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis by unfreezing Iranian money during “negotiations” to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

The Biden policy failed dismally and led to the October 7, 2023, attack on Israel, which disrupted the Middle East. The subsequent war against Hamas by Israel resulted in massive death in Gaza.

So you might think Ms. Harris might be a bit circumspect when it comes to Iran. But like the Biden open border debacle, Kamala Harris sees no evil.

Former Secretary of State John Kerry also failed to stop Iran’s nuclear quest. He carried out President Obama’s appeasement policy. At least Kerry is not undermining the U.S. military campaign as Harris is. Not yet, anyway.

You don’t have to be a war monger to understand that the fanatical leadership in Iran was never going to cease its terror activities. Therefore, a choice had to be made: let them continue to kill innocent people. Or stop them.

Right, Kamala?
 

AzIllini

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In a global world, who responds when a government is taken over by authoritarian thugs who kill and terrorize their citizens to remain in power? I kinda think China is like that, but let's stick to Iran. Last year alone they executed over 1000 political prisoners and killed thousands (some say 30,000) protesters in January. They were claiming they have uranium for 11 bombs and have formented terrorism and upheaval across the middle east and beyond. (partially thanks to large funds transferred to them from Obama and Biden)

Many nations are saying it is internal business and no one can intervene. Democrats are saying the same thing, although privately they may feel differently, but Trump is a bigger enemy for them than freedom in Iran.

If Trump succeeds the Iranian people will be free to chose their own govt(I hope) and the middle east will be a safer place. If Iran stays in the control of the thugs then ....

I think it is a unsolvable question because I don't want a global government and the UN doesn't arbitrate anything. China and Russia do not care about sovereignty of nations, they do what is best for them. With nuclear weapons, we all are on a short leash to annihilation and if Iran got them, there are crazy enough to use them.

So, Trump stepped up and we are at war. I'm praying that the conflict is short and Iran is freed.

ps. remember that Iran is Shite and most of the rest of Islam is Sunni. They don't get along and particularly Iran's closest neighbors have been threatened by the ambitions of the Iran regime to expand their influence across the middle east. There is a reason Iran is shooting missiles at its neighbors and the neighbors are supporting the US and Israel in this.