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Disagree.
Big East proved that.

National interest isn't in the Northeast.
It is in what you refer to Hickstown
Those are the people who watch the games


So when 116 people in Beckley, WV and 198 people in Salina, KS got boob tubes turned over to the Texas Tech/Baylor game the Big Ten should be shaken to their core. Got it
 

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WVU did not get an invite 70 years ago when the ACC started when WVU was part of the old Southern Conference. It did not happen when GA Tech jumped from the SEC to the ACC. It did not happen when Fast Eddie waved bye bye to BC, VPLies, and Cryami. It did not happen when sPitt and Suckacuse bolted and Rutgers jumped with both feet to the B1G. Did not happen when Maryland jumped to the B1G. WVU is in the only Conference that was willing to take us. The SEC and B1G are not going to happen and the ACC will NEVER happen. If Ollie did what Fast Eddie did, WVU would be in the same boat as Marshall collecting $200K conference checks for football per year and state taxpayer picking up 45% of the athletic department budget.
WVU would have done better than CUSA. Likely joined up with ex-conference mates, Cincinnati, South Florida, and Temple in the American. Plus, a few other familiar teams in Tulane, Central Florida, East Carolina, and Navy, all of which have been part of WVU football schedules in the past.
 
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So when 537 people in Beckley, WV and 671 people in Salina, KS got boob tubes turned over to the Texas Tech/Kansas St game the Big Ten should be shaken to their core. Got it

Once again.
Hickstown, USA is where the college football fan resides.

If you can't see that this conversation isn't going anywhere.

B1G has a bunch of good size states with state pride. So ultimately they have a good product
Their fans reside in Hickstown, USA as well.
 

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WVU would have done better than CUSA. Likely joined up with ex-conference mates, Cincinnati, South Florida, and Temple in the American. Plus, a few other familiar teams in Tulane, Central Florida, East Carolina, and Navy, all of which have been part of WVU football schedules in the past.

Actually would be sweet seeing a WVU/Marshall game every yr. Not quite WVU/Pitt but close.
 

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All smaller towns and mid size cities dominating the TV ratings

No. 1 Birmingham: 5.9 rating
No. 2 Oklahoma City: 4.3 rating
Columbus: 4.3 rating
No. 4 Greenville: 4.1 rating
No. 5 New Orleans: 3.4 rating
Atlanta: 3.4 rating
No. 7 Jacksonville: 3.3 rating
Tulsa: 3.3 rating
No. 9 Las Vegas: 3.2 rating
No. 10 Knoxville: 3.0 rating
No. 11 Dayton: 2.8 rating
No. 12 Greensboro: 2.7 rating
Austin: 2.7 rating
Charlotte: 2.7 rating
Fort Myers: 2.7 rating



Look everyone!!! I tug strings and google boy goes crazy. This is gonna sound pompous but I do love myself sometimes.

2.7 rating in Hicktown does not pay the bills. Ask ESPN 😂
 
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WVU did not get an invite 70 years ago when the ACC started when WVU was part of the old Southern Conference. It did not happen when GA Tech jumped from the SEC to the ACC. It did not happen when Fast Eddie waved bye bye to BC, VPLies, and Cryami. It did not happen when sPitt and Suckacuse bolted and Rutgers jumped with both feet to the B1G. Did not happen when Maryland jumped to the B1G. WVU is in the only Conference that was willing to take us. The SEC and B1G are not going to happen and the ACC will NEVER happen. If Ollie did what Fast Eddie did, WVU would be in the same boat as Marshall collecting $200K conference checks for football per year and state taxpayer picking up 45% of the athletic department budget.

Texas could get WVU into the ACC today.
That is how much the ACC values Texas.

They see them as an anchor to connect their ship to in football.
Especially if it is them and OU.

Then the questions becomes is that the best thing for them.
If someone WVU can find a seat. I wouldn't put it past them.

The university does have some value as being a flagship university.
 

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Once again.
Hickstown, USA is where the college football fan resides.

If you can't see that this conversation isn't going anywhere.

B1G has a bunch of good size states with state pride. So ultimately they have a good product
Their fans reside in Hickstown, USA as well.
Then why would a know it all jackass like yourself fake one cohort down here in the boonies with us Hicksville based fans? Sounds like deplorables to me...
 
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Then why would a know it all jackass like yourself fake one cohort down here in the boonies with us Hicksville based fans? Sounds like deplorables to me...

Should rephrase that. Didn't come off correct

If you are from Hickstown.
Have some pride it in.

Don't care where you are from just have some pride it in
 

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Texas could get WVU into the ACC today.
That is how much the ACC values Texas.

They see them as an anchor to connect their ship to in football.
Especially if it is them and OU.

Then the questions becomes is that the best thing for them.
If someone WVU can find a seat. I wouldn't put it past them.

The university does have some value as being a flagship university.

Hey goofball what do you want to know about Texas/ACC talks in 2012/2013 when ND committed to join. It never got to closing point because Texas and ESPN couldn’t agree to ending LHN. That’s code for ESPN was brokering Texas to join with ND to get out from under LHN disaster. FACT! But there would be no way for you to google that so you can’t even fathom the thought. See that’s the difference between who you hang out with and who my brother hangs out with.
 
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Hey goofball what do you want to know about Texas/ACC talks in 2012/2013 when ND committed to join. It never got to closing point because Texas and ESPN couldn’t agree to ending LHN. That’s code for ESPN was brokering Texas to join with ND to get out from under LHN disaster. FACT! But there would be no way for you to google that so you can’t even fathom the thought. See that’s the difference between who you hang out with and who my brother hangs out with.

What does that have to do with anything?
Your people at Pitt are clueless anyway if you have any
 

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What does that have to do with anything?
Your people at Pitt are clueless anyway if you have any


😂 You missed the point. You’re the king of straw man tangent arguments so I figured I’d humiliate you with some facts about your beloved Texas program that had nothing to do with your worthless posts 😂.
 

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😂 You missed the point. You’re the king of straw man tangent arguments so I figured I’d humiliate you with some facts about your beloved Texas program that had nothing to do with your worthless posts 😂.
It's not his beloved Texas program. That is a sham lol.
 

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Why play a game that is so one sided. Maybe Marshall and Pitt could hook up on a yearly basis.


Seriously Allen if Marshall would agree to a 2/1 or 3/1 home and away a series here or there would be cool. Listen man I was actually happy Pitt/Marshall got canceled this year. That would have been a tussle. I’m thinking Pitt/Temple would be closest thing similar.
 

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Seriously Allen if Marshall would agree to a 2/1 or 3/1 home and away a series here or there would be cool. Listen man I was actually happy Pitt/Marshall got canceled this year. That would have been a tussle. I’m thinking Pitt/Temple would be closest thing similar.
Marshall not worth the hassle and a money loser for WVU because they always want a 50/50 take on the gate plus the money paid for playing.
 
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😂 You missed the point. You’re the king of straw man tangent arguments so I figured I’d humiliate you with some facts about your beloved Texas program that had nothing to do with your worthless posts 😂.

You much rather create your own reality.

Don't have time to waste with that.

Mack Brown is sitting there in the AD office at UNC with his feet up.
Don't need info from Pitt fans.
The info is coming straight to Texas.
 

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You much rather create your own reality.

Don't have time to waste with that.

Mack Brown is sitting there in the AD office at UNC with his feet up.
Don't need info from Pitt fans.
The info is coming straight to Texas.


Says the delusional weirdo wasting his time with 26 handles arguing with himself into the weeee hours 😂.
 
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Says the delusional weirdo wasting his time with 26 handles arguing with himself into the weeee hours 😂.

Go to personal attacks...
Pretty predictable Greggy.

Can't argue against FACTS because it clearly states from multiple ADs in the ACC they need Texas to somehow compete with the SEC/B1G

That is coming from N Carolina. They run that conference. They get what they want.

Pitt is pretty much out of the loop.
 
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I don't understand why people aren't kissing the ground because WVU is in the Big 12 and knocking down $60 million a year instead of $10 million in the Big East. They see dark clouds that aren't there and miss the silver linings that ARE there. Just enjoy having Oklahoma or Texas coming to Mountaineer Field EVERY year. I sure do. Some people just don't know how lucky they are to be WVU fans. As Jack Fleming's mother would shout down from Heaven: "You're not Pitt fans so what are your crybabying about?"
 

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I don't understand why people aren't kissing the ground because WVU is in the Big 12 and knocking down $60 million a year instead of $10 million in the Big East. They see dark clouds that aren't there and miss the silver linings that ARE there. Just enjoy having Oklahoma or Texas coming to Mountaineer Field EVERY year. I sure do. Some people just don't know how lucky they are to be WVU fans. As Jack Fleming's mother would shout down from Heaven: "You're not Pitt fans so what are your crybabying about?"
You've certainly got some cut and paste answers to your question from one of the other forums. I'll make it easy for you Pretend Expert. Few care about the other games...Kansas.
.Kansas St...Iowa Stare and the rest of the Sooner/Longhorn annual cannon fodder. There are no rivalries...no drive to games...no history etc. And money...just how does that help the average fan or resident of WV? It's all bullshxx and fans are wise to it. If constantly lying about your background and ties to the state make nose grow congrats. The real folk aren't excited about paying tons of money to overpaid coaching babysitters...to support kids who care nothing for the school they represent...and to pay broadcast fees to watch games they can no longer see in person. Stuff your fake blowhard crap.
 

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Go to personal attacks...
Pretty predictable Greggy.

Can't argue against FACTS because it clearly states from multiple ADs in the ACC they need Texas to somehow compete with the SEC/B1G

That is coming from N Carolina. They run that conference. They get what they want.

Pitt is pretty much out of the loop.


You know my policy goofball. You get zero discussion about Pitt. You’re beneath me and are not worth talking Pitt sports with. Sorry to disappoint.

Now in regards to ACC you seem to forget that I’m the one that brought the news that Texas approached ACC, years ago, during expansion talks to this site. You literally got emotional and refused to except that inside info I told you. Clearly in past posts from this handle inside info was presented and you went off your rocker. Now you conform to what I said a long time ago. So here ya go again misrepresenting arguments. I never once said the ACC doesn’t want Texas. Opposite jerkoff! I stated clearly a long time ago that the ACC wanted Texas but only without the LHN. Of course the ACC would be interested in Texas. So you once again are arguing with yourself. This is another example of you being a delusional jerkoff.

So since you made a claim in your post representing multiple ACC ADs provide a link directly supporting your claim. No dot connecting links will save your credibility. You clearly stated factual statements by ACC ADs regarding ACC “needing” Texas. You clearly weren’t giving your opinion. You clearly we’re representing these ADs. So put up or shut up.

I will remind you to provide your links proving your claim over and over and over again until it becomes obvious you pulled that out of your *** as usual. I’ll be waiting for link partner. Thanks.

You literally offer nothing more than Mr. Obvious info or opinions trying to pass as facts.
 
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Sound pretty insecure about the situation.

If it happens. It happens. The rest of these teams who have a name brand have two choices.
Join the B1G/SEC
Create their own conference

Will be difficult for these teams even Texas to maintain the current path.

The difference between Texas and UNC. Texas for now is leading the pack. #1 in revenue.
UNC as great as they are isn't even in the Top 25.
They need Texas. Good chance that UNC doesn't have much leverage when it comes to Texas. Especially if OU is there as well. Maybe Kansas.

But OU/Kansas like the B1G. B1G could bring in but both could be future Nebraska's.

Whatever happens. WVU needs to create themselves a seat.
Make it them vs Pitt. Who is more valuable?
 
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Sound pretty insecure about the situation.

If it happens. It happens. The rest of these teams who have a name brand have two choices.
Join the B1G/SEC
Create their own conference

Will be difficult for these teams even Texas to maintain the current path.

The difference between Texas and UNC. Texas for now is leading the pack. #1 in revenue.
UNC as great as they are isn't even in the Top 25.
They need Texas. Good chance that UNC doesn't have much leverage when it comes to Texas. Especially if OU is there as well. Maybe Kansas.

But OU/Kansas like the B1G. B1G could bring in but both could be future Nebraska's.

Whatever happens. WVU needs to create themselves a seat.
Make it them vs Pitt. Who is more valuable?


Hey pal any link to back up your representation of those ACC ADs big guy?

So easy 😂

LOL with you arguing with yourself in every thread.
 
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Hey pal any link to back up your representation of those ACC ADs big guy?

So easy 😂

LOL with you arguing with yourself in every thread.

Posted for you the other day

You are out of the loop.

You explained to this board that you have some sort of business sense.
Next conference for Texas will be another hostile takeover. UNC isn't Stanford. Sports dictate a lot. Most likely will be the ACC
 

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Texas flirted with the B1G for a while, but truly, there wasn't much interest in having them join the B1G.

Oklahoma and Kansas were deemed to be better options, particularly once Maryland had their way with Texas on the gridiron, not once, but twice. Beat Maryland, and maybe we can talk.
 

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Posted for you the other day

You are out of the loop.

You explained to this board that you have some sort of business sense.
Next conference for Texas will be another hostile takeover. UNC isn't Stanford. Sports dictate a lot. Most likely will be the ACC

Nope. Link did not clearly state ACC ADs saying they needed Texas to survive as you claimed. You lie again goofball. You connect dots to turn your dumbass opinions into facts in your tiny brain.

Then you go right back at pushing a dot connected opinion as fact in your last sentence. You literally can not help yourself from arguing with yourself 😂

Again, provide the link that clearly supports your factual claim that multiple ACC ADs said ACC needs Texas to survive.

The site is watching this beatdown.
 

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Nope. Link did not clearly state ACC ADs saying they needed Texas to survive as you claimed. You lie again goofball. You connect dots to turn your dumbass opinions into facts in your tiny brain.

Then you go right back at pushing a dot connected opinion as fact in your last sentence. You literally can not help yourself from arguing with yourself 😂

Again, provide the link that clearly supports your factual claim that multiple ACC ADs said ACC needs Texas to survive.

The site is watching this beatdown.

Texas is quite happy being nearly as much the sole proprietor of the Big 12 as William Faulkner was of Yoknapatawpha County. Every Big 12 member is at the mercy of Texas. Even Oklahoma, with more football wins since World War 2 than any school, could not get admitted to the PAC without Texas also joining.

The Texas arrogance is not going to shuffle under the leadership of Ohio State and Michigan.

Assume that there is a college football move that would only have 4 major conferences and was about to declare that Texas must leave the Big 12.

Texas would try to persuade the ACC to grant it the same deal that Notre Dame has: full membership in all sports sponsored by the ACC except football, with five-eights membership in football. Texas would prefer that arrangement for two reasons.

The first is that pulling it off would mean Texas has proven that it is fully the equal of Notre Dame.

The second reason is that perhaps the only way the Longhorn Network can succeed is if it can show at least three or four Texas football games per year. And the only way that can happen is if Texas is no more than a partial member of a conference in football and not part of the league's TV deals for football.

Would the ACC make such a deal? Of course, because the league's full football members would gain a good deal in both national TV interest and ability to recruit, especially in the Lone Star State, by playing Texas five games per season.

Texas is not joining the Big Ten. Not now, not next year, not the year after, not when the Big 12 GOR expires.

Bottom line is the Big 12 will be a Major conference as long as Texas wants it to be, and there is no sign Texas does not want it to be.
 

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Texas is quite happy being nearly as much the sole proprietor of the Big 12 as William Faulkner was of Yoknapatawpha County. Every Big 12 member is at the mercy of Texas. Even Oklahoma, with more football wins since World War 2 than any school, could not get admitted to the PAC without Texas also joining.

The Texas arrogance is not going to shuffle under the leadership of Ohio State and Michigan.

Assume that there is a college football move that would only have 4 major conferences and was about to declare that Texas must leave the Big 12.

Texas would try to persuade the ACC to grant it the same deal that Notre Dame has: full membership in all sports sponsored by the ACC except football, with five-eights membership in football. Texas would prefer that arrangement for two reasons.

The first is that pulling it off would mean Texas has proven that it is fully the equal of Notre Dame.

The second reason is that perhaps the only way the Longhorn Network can succeed is if it can show at least three or four Texas football games per year. And the only way that can happen is if Texas is no more than a partial member of a conference in football and not part of the league's TV deals for football.

Would the ACC make such a deal? Of course, because the league's full football members would gain a good deal in both national TV interest and ability to recruit, especially in the Lone Star State, by playing Texas five games per season.

Texas is not joining the Big Ten. Not now, not next year, not the year after, not when the Big 12 GOR expires.

Bottom line is the Big 12 will be a Major conference as long as Texas wants it to be, and there is no sign Texas does not want it to be.


Your second reason is right on the mark IMO. In order for the Texas model/LHN to work they have to be built like ND. At least partially Independent as you stated. No doubt Texas would be desired by ACC. 2023/2024 is gonna be interesting.
 

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Texas could get WVU into the ACC today.
That is how much the ACC values Texas.

They see them as an anchor to connect their ship to in football.
Especially if it is them and OU.

Then the questions becomes is that the best thing for them.
If someone WVU can find a seat. I wouldn't put it past them.

The university does have some value as being a flagship university.
WVU to ACC will never happen unless UNC, UVA and Duke are gone.
 

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Your second reason is right on the mark IMO. In order for the Texas model/LHN to work they have to be built like ND. At least partially Independent as you stated. No doubt Texas would be desired by ACC. 2023/2024 is gonna be interesting.
Especially with the PAC 12 also having problems. It's going to get real interesting. Partial membership in ACC and a ND like deal is the only way Texas would leave and destroy Big 12.
 

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WVU to ACC will never happen unless UNC, UVA and Duke are gone.

Sadly I agree. The local Texass troll doesn’t realize how close WVU and Pitt got while they were fighting together to save the Big East. Pitt did everything they could to get WVU in ACC but of course had zero influence. What hurts is WVU should have had Louisville’s spot. Of course WVU had to take the Big 12 spot in 2012 but I know WVU would have had the Louisville spot in 2015 if the Big 12 took Louisville or WVU decline Big12 offer. I know from the highest level it was in the works but WVU couldn’t wait because there were no guarantees. They did what they had to do. Sucks.
 

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Sadly I agree. The local Texass troll doesn’t realize how close WVU and Pitt got while they were fighting together to save the Big East. Pitt did everything they could to get WVU in ACC but of course had zero influence. What hurts is WVU should have had Louisville’s spot. Of course WVU had to take the Big 12 spot in 2012 but I know WVU would have had the Louisville spot in 2015 if the Big 12 took Louisville or WVU decline Big12 offer. I know from the highest level it was in the works but WVU couldn’t wait because there were no guarantees. They did what they had to do. Sucks.

I firmly believe the ACC took UL because they knew Big 12 would get them sooner or later so it was a good move on ACC part to stop Big 12 from being stronger. It's the same way they crumbled the Big East. They didn't want the Big East to grow stronger than they were.

If not for the clowns running the show Big East would be a very strong conference today. Possibly would have gotten FSU and Maryland to boot.