One of the biggest issues we have is that there is no true Conservative party. I'm referring to fiscally conservatives.
Everyone just wants money for THEIR projects.
Has Nike lost its mind.....Kaepernick is the new face for Nike's
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One of the biggest issues we have is that there is no true Conservative party. I'm referring to fiscally conservatives.
Everyone just wants money for THEIR projects.
Yes should be round table. Do you provide this commentary for every topic that starts with OT? Just curious. And I 100% agree with you but it seems some only mention that on certain issues.
Another smart *** liberal with his head up his ***. I know it's hard for you kids to understand but for a spoiled, rich, kid to lend his ugly mug to an ad talking about sacrificing everything after disrespecting our flag and basically calling cops pigs, when there is a young man in the ground who quit his rich boy NFL job and gave his life for this country, is the biggest form of disrespect to Pat Tillman's memory and is the biggest load of horseshit I have seen in a while.
Maybe that bi-racial fool who was raised by white parents in a nice neighborhood and became a multi-millionaire in his early 20s by playing ball, should go visit the cemetery or visit the Tillman family if he wants to learn about what sacrificing everything is all about.
Or maybe he could visit DeShaun Watson and his mother to see what sacrifice is and what hard times is all about. Maybe DeShaun could teach him a thing or two about respect and how to conduct yourself as man and how to be an outstanding young American that anyone would be proud to call a teammate, a friend, or a family member.
No, you dont have to die to sacrifice things. Parents who are worth a **** sacrifice for their children constantly. There's more sacrifice than I've ever known in the projects and trailer parks, where single or poor parents are working 2 or 3 jobs to find their kids a better way
But when I have multiple family members who risked their lives in service of our country and on the streets as members of the law enforcement, dont piss down their back and say its raining when you just a spoiled rich boy living high on the hill.
TILLMAN A HERO? HE'S NOT A WAR HERO. HE WAS A WAR HERO BECAUSE HE WAS KILLED BY FRIENDLY FIRE. I LIKE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT KILLED BY FRIENDLY FIRE. #MAGA
For a minute I thought the outrage was over a Commander in Chief that gets in bed with a foreign adversary or people have seen video of the Commander in Chief butchered the national Anthem on live Tav multiple times.
Then I realized Nazi sympathizers, radical Christians, pedophiles and paleolibertarians were triggered over a "shoe ad".
Instead of burning your NIKE gear donate it instead so you can pretend to care about the less unfortunate.
Then I realized Nazi sympathizers, radical Christians, pedophiles and paleolibertarians were triggered over a "shoe ad".
Instead of burning your NIKE gear donate it instead so you can pretend to care about the less unfortunate.
I think you're reading too much into my post. looking for an argument, and just trying insult another poster. I'll take your points one by one.
* Obviously there are whites that would stand with CK. I'm a white guy and mentioned that I would be supportive. I would think that would be so obvious it would go without mention.
* We'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think protesting the flag is the best way to protest police brutality. To me the things are not connected. I think this answers the original post I responded to.
* Um, of course I'm aware there was police brutality well before President Obama. The point was CK's protest and some of the most recent events happened while a black man was president - posing the question does CK somehow think there was some coordinated Federal attack on blacks using the police force under President Obama? If he truly does believe that, then protesting the flag might make sense, but that would be like believing you're a lizard.
* Again, I would think this is obvious, and maybe I didn't word it clearly enough. Police brutality is still an issue . . . however, CK's actions have put more of a spotlight on the rights, wrongs, morality of kneeling for the national anthem. The actual issue of police brutality has gotten lost by his flag protest actions.
My original post was to simply answer another posters question about the protest. We can disagree about the effectiveness of the strategy, but to me it's pretty obvious by the results; the strategy has been an abject failure. If he was successful we would be talking about the actual issue, not the protest.
Jesus Christ take a lap, better yet run a 5k you prejudice prickIt’s not even fun embarrassing you anymore
Nothing to do with politics but each of us being better humans day in and day out
Haha funny. I'm nowhere close to being liberal. I despise them for as many different reasons as I despise far right folks. I'm way more conservative when it comes to issue by issue look at things. I just don't have the lack of compassion. And DW4 most likely supports Kap 100%. But continue to prop him up and pretend like you give a damn. If he hadn't been a part of our University I doubt you'd given a damn about him or his life.
You ever heard anyone other than a white man called a honkey? What about cracker? Oh so now theres no such thing as racial slurs when it comes to whites? You got a lot to learn, Junior. Stop watching CNN and MSNBC and get out in the real world. People of ALL races are hateful and racist and it all needs to stop if this country ever expects to move forward.
People out here using Pat Tillman's good name don't even know who that man was. If he were alive and kneeling they'd be trashing him as well.
Yeah this country has moved forward over the years because we've slowly but surely defeated all the racism of blacks against whites. Changed all the policies that were limiting opportunities for White folks. You're right. We need to fight all racism.
I guess we agree . . . the very first line of my response said I'm not offended by the protest.
We'll have to disagree on the outcome of a different strategy though. I think there would be a lot of people to come to CK's side if his argument and protest were put together thoughtfully, protested in a more strategic way, and I think you'd even be able to get before congress with the right backing and strategy, get lawmakers behind this, and affect real change.
Instead, everybody is arguing about the flag, boycotting the NFL, if CK should get an opportunity to have a job in the NFL, boycotting Nike, etc..
He's taken all the focus off the real problem by his actions.
Only added it for perspective. Something that seems to be lacking here from time to time.
Hell I just ignore it anymore, for the most part. I needed a freaking scorecard to keep up with the controversy of the day. Emails, collusion, dossiers, who called who by the wrong pronoun, whatever.
So now if I comment it's probably to make a joke about it.
What??? That's what sacrificing everything means. Kaepernick hasn't sacrificed anything.
There are tangible dollars that disagree. Luckily Nike is trying to help him be compensated for his sacrifice.
None of what you said is relevant to talking a knee to raise awareness on why innocent black men are getting killed by cops.
I don’t understand why you and others get so upset because people are trying to prevent innocent people from getting killed by cops.
LOL. Can't wrap my head around people ( liberals) who think he sacrificed.
ITT see white people upset because a man is trying to stop unarmed black people from getting killed by police officers.
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We don't disagree about kneeling for the flag. I wouldn't do that but it in no way makes me change my support, amount of support, etc for this issue.
Obama being president is actually irrelevant. There are so many levels to this that it means nothing. Sad but true. Him being elected spoke to the hope that we live in a country where there's still a chance to rise above it all. We've shown enough examples of it historically. Him being elected was another example of it.
Kaps action putting light in the wrong place was a choice by a bunch of hateful, disingenuous but intelligent people to hijack the situation.
Your definition of failure is different from mine. It's ongoing. Many communities have had positive interaction between law enforcement and citizens since this all started, NFL players have donated money, purchased vehicles for law enforcement, etc. Plenty of good dialogue by good men and women not anonymous hate mongers on websites. Politicians create division by design so they have also done their part to keep us divided. But in reality an intelligent group of people should not be distracted as easy by nonsense.
It's not Kap's fault we're not talking about the issue or the method of protest. People have to be smarter. Also, he can't control what people want to do. Some people ignore reality whenever race is mentioned and they feel attacked and get defensive as if they are the ones being called racist.
Link says 3 billion lost since Friday. Headline says 4 billion.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-04/nikes-kaepernick-ad-has-cost-company-over-3-billion-so-far
Trump hates McCain so conservatives hate him. If Trump ever tweeted support of Kap these people on here would be buying 300 dollar F da Police shoes.
That wasn't meant for you. Plenty of others using his name to fight something he'd probably support.
I'm actually happy people can actually talk about it. I appreciate that. Some of the excuses from intelligent people blow my mind tho. They act as if they can't separate people from the message. The message is not enough then. You don't truly care enough about whatever the message is. And that's cool with me. Many of us don't care unless it directly effects us. That's very human. Christians tho.
