Has turnover on downs always counted as an...

DerHntr

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I think that it shouldn't be included. To me, a turnover is an indication that a player made some sort of mistake from an offensive perspective or a great play from a defensive perspective.

Turnover on downs is an indication that the coach's play calling was the more significant problem. 4 plays called didn't get you ten yards rather than one play's mistake/great play allowed the other team to attain possession.
 
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MSUDC11

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TURNOVER on downs. I've never seen it included before, but I agree that it should be.
 

was21

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Originally, that is, to begin with, wasn't a turnover either an pass interception or a fuble recovered by the opposing team and now how has it morphed
 

dawgstudent

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I misread the stats from Saturday. I thought they said we had 3 but it said we had 2.
 

Big Sheep81

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Coaches consider it a turnover. It is not counted statistically as a turnover nor does it count in the turnover ratio.

Nick Saban and Deer Hunter consider it a mortal sin.**
 

winchester_57

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The halftime stats on the jumbotron listed us with 2 turnovers, when we only had one. I too was wondering if they counted the failed fourth down attempt as a turnover.