He isn't doing his job
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What is the law? In layman' terms. I don't follow the rights of Transgenders very closely. Frankly, I just don't care. Nothing bothers me about them, I just think there are bigger problems going on in this country.
So what is this controversial law?
The city of Charotte passed an ordinance allowing anyone who identifies as whichever sex they want to be that day to use whichever bathroom they want. The state passed law overriding it.
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Honestly, who gives a ****? Not like you will ever see a woman come into a man's bathroom.
All good points, but isn't this law written such that you have to use the bathroom that matches the gender on your birth certificate? If so, you are going to have women in the men's room and vice versa - the people who have gone through gender reassignment. Also, how do you enforce this law realistically. I can't tell you how many times I've seen women in bars skip the line for the restroom by going into the men's room.
I have to say that although Dave has said a lot of silly things, that one actually makes a lot of sense and on top of that it's something I've never heard anyone say in all the discussions I've heard on this.
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I have a buddy who has been saying for years that we should end gender segregated bathrooms. That would solve this whole issue.
I wouldnt favor that at all. If they want to put one seaters and call them unisex like they have done in the mountainlair that solves a lot of issues but I dont want to share a restroom with women. Next thing you know it will be a goddam felony to leave a toilet seat up. Eff that.
If you go through gender reassignment you can get your birth certificate gender changed.
I don't want my teenage daughter to share a bathroom with another male. Would you? The unintended consequences of laws passed by legislatures. Really, transgender ********. You should use the bathroom that you have the genitalia for. Screw Jenner, he still has a dick. I don't want him or anybody like him, in a females bathroom. Some people have no common sense.
I thought the law was about more than just this overblown bathroom issue, no?
BTW I agree he should resign if he's not doing his elected job.
They're hiding behind this made-up bathroom crisis. This is about keeping them awful sinners from any legal protections.
EXACTLY. I do not interact with women in my workplace if I can avoid it. Don't even want the risk of anyone saying anything or accusing me of anything. I'm not even sure doing that makes you bulletproof because they can accuse you of something and you will lose.
Listen, I'm agnostic on this. The right makes some good points and this discrimination **** the left is pushing is equally as asinine. There is no question it will be exploited. The first time my daughter is in danger over some predator because of this law, first I shoot the guy in the face, second I sue the city for negligence, emotional distress for her for the obvious reason and for me for having to kill someone they should have.
My point was, this law isn't about the transgender bathroom issue at all. The NC GOP is hiding behind that.
They did put other stuff in there like taking away the local government right to set a municipal minimum wage. I think there's some wrongful termination protections they took out of state law as well. You are probably right about them throwing the bathroom thing in there to cover up other stuff.
A true transgender female is the last person you need to worry about molesting your daughter. It is straight sick males that will do it. Now, will they cross dress in order to get access? Possibly. But they would do that regardless of this discriminatory law.
I don't think you can discount it to be honest. When this was first raised (not the law, the situation) at my company a couple of years ago, the women had a friggin melt down over it. I watched a butch lesbian raise 10 kinds of hell about having to share a bathroom with a man. Like it or not, this will put women in danger of predatory men.
I believe there is also something in there similar to the RFRA that they tried to pass here. Definitely way more than just bathrooms.
There was that situation where the guy kept going into the women's change room at the pool or the Y or wherever it was. I'm not saying he was a predator, but it's easy to see something like that becoming an issue.
I see the utility in having a single stall gender neutral bathroom. Not for transgenders, although they could benefit from it, but if a father is out with his 5-6 year old daughter or a mother with her son, or elderly folks where one has to care for the other. I don't think I'm in favor of a law mandating it though.
There were some other little things, but nothing huge. 8 NC Dem House of Reps members voted for it. All Dem Senators refused to vote (didn't want it on record voting yes). It wasn't packed full of Republican goodies. There were a few, such as the minimum wage, but not many.
I don't see how that can be said, but don't really care. Let's just make a 4th bathroom. The bill took away rights for gays and lesbians and when the shitstorm commenced, the state's GOP rallied around this bathroom issue. If they are that worried about this law somehow now creating bathroom predators (lmao) then they could have opted to just stop that.
I hate it when they do stuff like that. Both parties do it. What does the minimum wage have to do with what bathroom people are supposed to use?
That's where my libertarian part comes out. I've never really said I'm in favor of what NC did... I am not. Localities know what's best for them, they can figure it out. State shouldn't dictate to them, Feds shouldn't dictate to states.
Normalizing an activity always makes the abuse of that activity more likely. Read the stories around Mardi Gras. It is a very unsafe time for women.
The concern was not over transgenders. The concern was over predators of any sort that now want to identify as opposite sex for the day.
I don't follow your analogy. Mardi gras has always been the wrong place and time to visit N.O. I would agree normalizing the activity makes it something that allows people to talk about it. But it doesn't turn a transgender person into a sexual predator and to hide behind that excuse is disingenuous.
Way to take a good discussion and put it in the gutter like classless scum always do.
When you don't understand the proper concern (it was never transexuals) and make up your own argument to be mad about, I will call you out on it.
You are clueless on the conversation I am having with someone else. No surprise on you being clueless.
Look dumbass, I didn't respond to your op or any other babble you posted. I have zero outrage over it. I am discussing the point others made about women feeling unsafe because a transgender is in their bathroom. A transgender female is not going to attack a woman. Same fears women should have are still present and cajuneer made a good point on that subject about normalizing the behavior and i acknowledged it.
You continue being a clueless ******* involving yourself in a conversation that is beyond your little brain. Stfu and leave the intelligent discussions to others.