Hegseth

[TigerGrowls]

They can impeach him in the house on party line vote. He will not be convicted in the senate. This will just be a lib jerk fest. Go for it.

 

[TigerGrowls]

As I've said many times before, I'm retired USAF and I have a daughter currently on AD. She tells me that most of the people she knows in the military have little respect for Hegseth. That's anecdotal, but it;s pretty relevent to the topic IMO when the people you're supposed to lead don't respect your leadership.

The SECDEF should be focused on readiness, sound judgment and protecting the men and women serving under him...not focused on political loyalty or TV appearances. The military must remain professional, nonpartisan and subject to civilian authority under the Constitution. Trying to turn military leadership into an extension of partisan politics is complete bs.

...and of course my favorite--the Pentagon IG found that Hegseth's handling of Signal messages created operational security risks that could have endangered U.S. personnel. That's a serious failure of judgment and fireable at its onset...but good ole Tulsi is was either incompetant (having never read a SCG in her life) or lied under oath when she was speaking on the incident.

The public numbers don't lie either...polls found 32% approved of Hegseth's performance, while 57% disapproved....that means there are plenty of Republicans who don't favor him. Oh, and Trump's cute executive order authorized “Secretary of War” as a secondary title, but it did not change the statutory name--he's the SECDEF (for now).

What is the specific charge to impeach him on???

 

[alaskanseminole]

What is the specific charge to impeach him on???

Google the eight articles of impeachment.

 

[baltimorened]

That's another great opinion, Ned. How DO you do it?

you might not believe this but I've had this opinion for years..even folks in the military who like to talk a great battle and their exploits who have never seen a bullet fired in anger....

folks who ridicule others who have been in actual combat has never sit right with me...especially among those who have never put on a uniform.

you might not Hegseth, and I don't think he should be in this job either, but he has served for the US in combat...he might not fit the standard of a Secretary of Defense, but he at least should get respect for his service as a combat veteran.

sorry if you don't like my opinion

 

[baltimorened]

I actually don’t think they’re obsessed with masculinity

ever been in a barracks with 40 18-20 year olds in a combat Division? masculinity and testosterone galore...

 

[Warlock]

you might not believe this but I've had this opinion for years..even folks in the military who like to talk a great battle and their exploits who have never seen a bullet fired in anger....

folks who ridicule others who have been in actual combat has never sit right with me...especially among those who have never put on a uniform.

you might not Hegseth, and I don't think he should be in this job either, but he has served for the US in combat...he might not fit the standard of a Secretary of Defense, but he at least should get respect for his service as a combat veteran.

sorry if you don't like my opinion

I'm entirely indifferent to your opinion on this and all things, Ned.

 

[GesterHawk]

The radical left commies infested in the govt currently. It's been an ongoing coup attempt for years now. I would support Trump dealing with it harshly.

Don't call us Nazis you Commies!!!!

How should Trump deal with duly officials?

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

ever been in a barracks with 40 18-20 year olds in a combat Division? masculinity and testosterone galore...

Bath houses with 40 18-20 year olds would be a little more appealing to these freaks

 

[dpic73]

They can impeach him in the house on party line vote. He will not be convicted in the senate. This will just be a lib jerk fest. Go for it.

He should be and he will be come January. That douchenozzle hasn't held a press briefing in 6 fuggin months and nobody even know what we're doing over there. Can you tell me?

 

[TigerGrowls]

Don't call us Nazis you Commies!!!!

How should Trump deal with duly officials?

WTF??? What's a duly official???

 

[GesterHawk]

WTF??? What's a duly official???

Sorry, forgot a word.

Duly elected officials.

My bad.

You do love question marks.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Good analysis imo. The hate for Hegseth is out there from the left. He's safe and will work hard for Trump.



Why is Hegseth so important, and why do they want him out so much?

A Color Revolution is a kind of insurgency. An insurgency requires making people fear it more than the actual government.

Beyond being a decorated combat soldier, Hegseth was also a counter-insurgency instructor in the army for many years.

But it goes deeper. Hegseth is mediagenic and media savvy. He’s a charismatic communicator. And by all indications, a large number of troops love him.

In this way, he’s vastly more effective than an older SecDef who might have more political and policy sophistication.

This is important because with that level of support amongst the troops it makes it unlikely that any Deep State officers will be able to move their troops towards insurrection against the current administration.

Put another way, it’s not so much what he can get the military TO DO. It’s what he can prevent the military from doing.

And that’s why they are desperate to get rid of him.

I DON’T LIKE HEGSETH

I LOVE HEGSETH

PLAN TO STICK WITH HIM
ALL THE WAY TO MAT

FLAT ON MY BACK

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

You keep telling yourself that people are joining the army to serve under Hegseth. They’re joining out of desperation because the economy is in shambles

You still post on TI because us idiots are desperate. To hear wisdom.from a wise voice

Waiting and expect. To be waiting a long time

 

[dpic73]

 

[TigerGrowls]

Commiecrats are definitely scared of Hegseth.

 

[TigerGrowls]

 

[LafayetteBear]

you might not Hegseth, and I don't think he should be in this job either, but he has served for the US in combat...he might not fit the standard of a Secretary of Defense, but he at least should get respect for his service as a combat veteran.

Ned: My understanding is that Hegseth deployed to an active combat zone (Afghanistan) but never shouldered a weapon and faced a hostile enemy force. So calling him a "combat veteran" may be a bit of a stretch. I guess it depends on whether being in a combat zone without ever confronting enemy forces constitutes one a "combat veteran." He certainly did not engage in combat in a manner similar to you.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Bath houses with 40 18-20 year old dudes are my happy place. Plenty of young diack.

JinxyPat: Good for you, I suppose, but TMI, dude.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Laura Loomer. LOL. That dumb, fugly hag got paid to put false, incendiary nonsense up on the Web.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Laura Loomer. LOL. That dumb, fugly hag got paid to put false, incendiary nonsense up on the Web.

Everyone has an opinion.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Google the eight articles of impeachment.

Its all BS. One of the items was kidnapping Maduro. You serious Clark???

 

[TigerGrowls]

This was a ceremonial **** you from massie on his way out.



There have been 7 Sec of Defense/War Since Thomas Massie entered Congress:

Leon Panetta
Chuck Hagel
Ashton Carter
James Mattis
Mark Esper
Lloyd Austin
Pete Hegseth

He’s only introduced Articles impeachment for one of them: Pete Hegseth

Under Obama & Biden, their Sec of Defense conducted questionable military actions in the following countries:

Iraq & Syria 2014
Syria 2014–2017, 2021–2024
Pakistan, Somalia, & Yemen 2012–2017
Libya 2016
Yemen 2024–2025
Afghanistan 2022

And yet, Thomas Massie never introduced Articles of Impeachment for any of those military actions. Only against Pete Hegseth.

 

[baltimorened]

I'm entirely indifferent to your opinion on this and all things, Ned.

well, good for you

 

[baltimorened]

Bath houses with 40 18-20 year olds would be a little more appealing to these freaks

it amazes me how people like warlock, who have zero experience or knowledge about what they're talking about can be so definitive in their criticisms of others. You can not like Hegseth, fine, but don't negate his combat experiences when you have no idea of what you're posting.

Now on the other hand, the governor of Maryland, has been accused by one of his superior officers of claiming combat actions - while in afghanistan - that didn't happen. Apparently governor Moore was a staff officer in a secure area, but claimed to have led paratroopers in combat engagements. Now, I don't know the facts, because I wasn't there...but you might think that an officer to whom Moore reported would know....Moore will be defended, though, why? simple he's a Democrat

 

[TigerGrowls]

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

it amazes me how people like warlock, who have zero experience or knowledge about what they're talking about can be so definitive in their criticisms of others. You can not like Hegseth, fine, but don't negate his combat experiences when you have no idea of what you're posting.

Now on the other hand, the governor of Maryland, has been accused by one of his superior officers of claiming combat actions - while in afghanistan - that didn't happen. Apparently governor Moore was a staff officer in a secure area, but claimed to have led paratroopers in combat engagements. Now, I don't know the facts, because I wasn't there...but you might think that an officer to whom Moore reported would know....Moore will be defended, though, why? simple he's a Democrat

It all trickles back to their TDS. They were bashing Hegseth as soon as he set foot. Didn’t even give him a chance because of Trump, but the disrespect these freaks show our veterans is pathetic. Masculinity really confuses them

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

Always remember

 

[fatpiggy]

 

[baltimorened]

Ned: My understanding is that Hegseth deployed to an active combat zone (Afghanistan) but never shouldered a weapon and faced a hostile enemy force. So calling him a "combat veteran" may be a bit of a stretch. I guess it depends on whether being in a combat zone without every confronting enemy forces constitutes one a "combat veteran." He certainly did not engage in combat in a manner similar to you.

my understanding is different. But, as I wasn't there, My guess is probably as good as yours. People have a tendency to "remember" things differently as time evolves..normally exaggerations in their favor. There are lots of people who served in combat zones who are "combat veterans" but other than a few incoming rockets, mortars, or small arms rounds never really faced an enemy and traded "round for round"...in Vietnam for example, as crazy as this sounds, only 20% of those in country actually were in combat roles...

I just think it is unique that people who have never served in uniform, much less in combat or in a combat zone see the need to criticize others who have. In hegseth's case, he served in both Iraq and Afghanistan...he's an infantry officer, which doesn't necessarily mean he was in an infantry unit...and for sure there is debate about what his actual day to day role was.....which in and of itself is unique...

I'm not a hegseth as SECDEF supporter, you know that. I have never understood why he was picked - other than trump liked the tenor of his book. Some of his ideas about the number of generals on active duty, the need for increased fitness, more emphasis on fighting as opposed to more staff, and shortening the acquisition timelines are probably correct. Some of his other policies, to me, are suspect....and/or, in my opinion, detrimental to military readiness.

Should he be impeached? Well, figuring that nobody in trump's administration takes a breath that Trump doesn't like, I find it hard to believe that Hegseth has carte blanche authority over the war in Iran or the destruction of the boats in the carribean. So impeaching him and not the actual decision maker seems kind of roundabout to me.

Now, if i'm Hegseth, or any of the other cabinet leaders, I see the writing on the wall... Trump is wounded and blood is in the water....so I start planning my departure now. Hegseth would be smart to begin laying the groundwork now for a nice 7 figure income job as president of some think tank in DC. He might survive impeachment but in the process his reputation gets more and more sullied. Again, if I were him, I'd start now in softening my hardline positions and return to the mainstream of thought.

Anyway, if folks want to attack hegseth, he's really fair game. But attacking him for his service in uniform, especially by those who have never served, is unwarranted. IMO.

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

We get em yet?

 

[alaskanseminole]

Its all BS. One of the items was kidnapping Maduro. You serious Clark???

"all BS"?

You don't have to agree with all 8 articles. I don't.

Article 6, for example, Hegseth censured Senator Mark Kelly, initiated proceedings that could reduce his retired military rank and pay, and threatened further action over Kelly's public statements. A federal judge subsequently granted Kelly a preliminary injunction, finding he was likely to succeed on his First Amendment retaliation claim. Talk about your BS. ...and that's just one.

Now, is all this impeachable, we'll find out, but regardless, the guy is an absolute joke. I take it you never served.

 

[fskillet]

Are we really surprised the impeachment vote didn't pass? Dems take control in ~2 months - this was just all performative.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Are we really surprised the impeachment vote didn't pass? Dems take control in ~2 months - this was just all performative.

Hey, it works for me. Republicans just went on the record again as supporting both Hegseth and the ongoing disaster that is the Iran War. Remember how frequently Cheeto used to castigate George W. Bush for his foray into Iraq? That seems both quaint and hypocritical at this point.

 

[coldbud1994]

He is such an embarrassment. He was reprimanded by a soldier for laughing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/11/11/politics/hegseth-reprimanded-guard-tomb-unknown-soldier

 

[dpic73]

He is such an embarrassment. He was reprimanded by a soldier for laughing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/11/11/politics/hegseth-reprimanded-guard-tomb-unknown-soldier

Oh sh*t maga is about to go ballistic! Remember how they raged for a week when AOC smiled at Mamdani at the 9/11 ceremony? This is worse so be prepared for a week of brutal Hegseth criticism - right @MAGA?

 

[alaskanseminole]

Just another day for Pete. He'll probably have the soldier demoted and transfered to Antartica.

 

[JohnHughsPartner]

 

[dpic73]

Paul Reickhoff: “No. Pete Hegseth is a piece of sh.it. I have to say it, like, we can all see it now. The whole world can see it. He’s disrespectful, he’s despicable, he’s dastardly, he’s a liar, he’s lied to his wives, he’s lied to the country, he’s lied to the president, and they are bad people, and it’s no more obvious and egregious than on Veterans Day when they act like that…”

 

[dpic73]