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Regarding Tiger, I simply cannot understand why people cheer for a guy who while at his apex treated his wife like dirt, didn't sign autographs for fans, shunned the media and used shady doctors linked to MLB. Tiger became "nice" when everything fell apart and no one was paying attention anymore. His treatment of people is well documented & I saw it first hand at US Open in Bethpage. Tiger's demise was self-inflicted, not an injury or illness comeback like CBS was portraying. He drives rating that's the reason.
Why not root for the new breed like Spieth, Rory, Day, Rickie etc...?
Why not root for the new breed like Spieth, Rory, Day, Rickie etc...?
All people qualify for forgiveness....not just certain one's.
Like I said, Tiger was certainly a lot of those things. And I think a lot of people here have been willing to acknowledge that, as well. As to his demise being self-inflicted....part of it surely was, no argument there. His injuries weren't made up, though.
Just like it would take a lot of blind love to feel Tiger got a fair shake, it takes a lot of blind hate to believe the things you said.
I can understand anybody having a personal problem with another person and feeling like they can’t forgive them or can’t “support” them in any way. But bottom line is Tiger is good for golf, so a lot of people are going to be excited about him for that reason alone. They aren’t going to really care about any of his “transgressions”.
Duke, I truly appreciate buddy. You and the other guys I met are stand up and I hope the rest of the crew coming in Oct can live up to you guys. I had a blast hanging out.
retiredsoldier said everybody was cool except that dude that goes by QC. He was weird as heck and seems like his time was more valuable than the rest of us. I hope that guy doesn't show up this time lmbo. J/K buddy.
Let's agree to disagree, Tiger was not fan friendly one bit at his apex so people jumping up and down at Augusta just looked very foolish to me. Spieth sigining tons of autographs for kids at PGA two years ago is the guy I'm rooting for.
I never said Tiger was fan-friendly. That's what you're not getting here.
Tiger wasn't a great guy. But, I think he's been humbled by life. IMO, the true signs of one's self-worth is being open to change and sometimes looking in the mirror. I feel Tiger's done that.
You certainly have every right to hold a grudge against Tiger for the rest of your life. That also doesn't make him the same person today as he was yesterday, a year ago, or 10 years ago.
I was about an hour behind on DVR. Figuring I'd wind up on a few text chains, I also shut off my phone. When I finished watching and turned it back on I had 57 text messages.
I don’t like Tiger at all, but I ain’t holding his past against him. I forgave him. Nobodys perfect, and I’ve had my share of mistakes, it just wasn’t public, untill I made it, cause I don’t give a damn!!!!! I’m reborn!!! Lol 
I don’t like Tiger at all, but I ain’t holding his past against him. I forgave him. Nobodys perfect, and I’ve had my share of mistakes, it just wasn’t public, untill I made it, cause I don’t give a damn!!!!! I’m reborn!!! Lol
#BravoLaettner
Terrific post! Great moment for GOLF, YES! FOR SPORTS, YES! But pull for Tiger?? NEVER.... OFC
I'm one of those "I'm only gonna tune in if Tiger is in contention" fans. Yeah, I know, lame. However, I watched all 6 hours yesterday and it was wonderful.
The moment after Tiger won was something else, truly a special moment.
Being upset that a famous professional athlete was unfaithful to his wife is like being upset that the grass is green, just my opinion.
The moment after Tiger won was something else, truly a special moment.
Being upset that a famous professional athlete was unfaithful to his wife is like being upset that the grass is green, just my opinion.
Agreed. We can pick apart a ton of athletes or politicians if we want, but if they’re on our side we will look past it or make excuses for them. In this situation it should be looked at- a guy that was at the lowest of lows on and off the course and he came back and won it against the best field ever. It’s as impressive as any moment I’ve seen.
Always has been and always will be that way. Many folks live in glass houses.
Mods I respect your views, I really do, but show the other side a little respect for their own views. Just my opinion, but Laettner, Mac, QC and a few others out here just dont care for Tiger. Sorry, not sorry...
Not sure I have ever seen ESPN force feed a story in this manner before. While simultaneously acting as if the NHL playoffs (and/or sport) don't exist. I get it Golf is one of their ratings cows (on a declining network) but uphold some sort of journalistic integrity.
I didn’t care for woods before his personal ventures. I still don’t care for him now. If he’s in a tournament, I won’t watch. We all have our likes and dislikes and just don’t like the dude. How fun would it be if we all pulled for the same team? Oh wait, we do on here. lol
I guess it's worth repeating, but nobody is saying you can't root against Tiger or have your own opinion of him. Nobody has disrespected that opinion at all. But you started this whole thing by saying that you can't understand why people do like him or why he gets the attention he gets. That is where I take issue. I have followed Tiger his entire career and I have lived and died by each moment of his. Just as I do for Duke basketball. I have the ability to compartmentalize his professional achievements and his personal life decisions. I don't blame you not wanting to. But you have to at least be able to see why people do. You may not agree with it, but you see why people do.
In sum:
Me: I like Tiger, but I understand that some people don't.
You: You do not like Tiger and you don't understand why people do.
Seeing the other point being made is how discussions can be had.
In sum:
Me: I like Tiger, but I understand that some people don't.
You: You do not like Tiger and you don't understand why people do.
Seeing the other point being made is how discussions can be had.
Chov I respect your analysis, and I think its fine you and multitudes of others like Tiger. I am GENUINELY GLAD for you and others he triumphed this weekend as I predicted he would. One even said Molinari was "unflappable" Saturday evening. I just dont care for the guy for many of the same reasons Laettner does not, QC, Mac among others.It makes a good talking point on a message board in the offseason. Lol, maybe we should thank Tiger, lol....
Explain how your views weren't respected again. I'm confused.
Here's my deal with Tiger....I was never a fan back in the day. I'm not really one today....but I definitely caught myself pulling for him all weekend. He seems to have made some changes in his life. On the surface, he comes across as a better person than he did 10 and 20 years ago. Is it all an act? Entirely possible....my personality lends itself to giving him/others the benefit of the doubt, because that's what I try to do with people. Sometimes it will get us all burned. Plus, Tiger moves the needle and it's good for golf.....and I like golf.
Yeah @hart2chesson, I’m not seeing where anyone’s views are being disrespected. No one has name called or anything like that. Not even tried to shut anyone down. Simply expressed our views on Tiger, forgiveness and rooting for greatness. Those are the reasons certain people have expressed for choosing to root for Tiger. I’m not sure anyone has said, “you need to root for Tiger or else.”
It’s the same thing that happens when someone brings up an unpopular opinion about Duke players or coaches. There may be some dumb banter at times, but if you filter that out, typically it’s just debate. My view vs. yours. That’s the spirit of a messageboard.
I'm genuinely interested why people rooted for Tiger before his demise. By the late 90's & early 00's Tiger clearly had no interest in acknowleding fans or giving any insight into his life. From a brand perspective I found Tiger to be flat out boring and unlikeable.
Not being a wise guy, how do you "live and die" with a guy who avoided signing autographs for HIS fans at every tournament? He cared about no one.
Possibly greatest golfer in history but hard to believe people rooted for Tiger due to likeability. So it's the winning I assume.