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horshack.sixpack

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I'm overall pleased with the direction of the program. I'm convinced that the defense is going to be substantially better next year based on players and coaching changes. However, I'm not sure what to expect with regards to offensive improvement. What changes for next year will most help our play calling? Were we limited by personnel? Is it all on the coaches (that are the same)? I can pick out poor and predictable play calling, but I'm not sure that I'm enough of a "football guy" to identify the root cause...
 
FISHDAWG

FISHDAWG

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take a look at out WR class this year ... also add Shumpert ... but I can't really argue your point, the offense is still a question mark
 
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NCDawg.sixpack

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I think we have a lot of question marks on the OL. I'm not really sure of our OL coach-I know he's Mullen's good buddy, but he doesn't seem very good to me. Has he ever recruited anybody?
 
missouridawg

missouridawg

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NCDawg said:
I think we have a lot of question marks on the OL. I'm not really sure of our OL coach-I know he's Mullen's good buddy, but he doesn't seem very good to me. Has he ever recruited anybody?
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My moron detector just exploded. Hevesy is the least of our problems when it comes to recruiting and development. Rumors he may have dropped the ball on Mix... and he shouldn't get a pass for that. But up until the Mix thing, Hevesy has been nothing but great for our program.
 
AFDawg

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Hevesy was also the primary recruiter on Jones--at least according to 247.
 
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Coach34

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horshack said:
I'm overall pleased with the direction of the program. I'm convinced that the defense is going to be substantially better next year based on players and coaching changes. However, I'm not sure what to expect with regards to offensive improvement. What changes for next year will most help our play calling? Were we limited by personnel? Is it all on the coaches (that are the same)? I can pick out poor and predictable play calling, but I'm not sure that I'm enough of a "football guy" to identify the root cause...
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1) Having your entire OL back as we do for 2013 will 95% of the time make your offense better. Smith may not use his medical RS, but Malone started 8 games in his place last season anyway. To have all 5 of those guys back working as a cohesive unit is huge for us. And they pass protected extremely well this past season- even with as long as Russell held onto the ball.

2. Having all your RB's returning is big- plus we add a guy in Shumpert that may or may not redshirt. He redshirts if Griffin is healthy- we arent going to waste his Freshman year for 30 carries in garbage time. Perkins and Josh Robinson should have good seasons. Robinson really looked good in spurts, but made some Freshman mistakes. He will be nothing but better in 2013, we know what we have in Perkins.

3. WR is the question mark. Can Robert Johnson and Joe Morrow finally figure out the offense? Can Malcolm Johnson stay off scooters? What impact does Fred Ross, Deonte Evans, Fred Brown, and Jeremy Chappelle have? Lots of questions here.

4. Rumors that we actually ran more of what Les Koenning wanted to do in 2012 have surfaced. Mullen is scrapping that supposedly and going back to what he knows best- run first, pass second. More TE-FB involved in the run game and less zone stretch ****. Gonna run the zone read and if a QB gets hurt- he just gets hurt and we'll go to the next one. May be ********, may not- I dont know. There has to be something done here with scheme AND playcalling. I'm curious as well to see what we do here.
 
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Have to agree with this. A lot of our problem last year was how we used our personnel (or didn't use). We kept trying to force Perkins in as a 3-down guy and he just isn't. He is good at what he does, but he is not the guy that you want getting those tough yards when everyone in the stadium knows you are going to run the ball. Jim Harbaugh uses LaMichael James perfectly in the role that Perkins fits.

If our coaching staff could keep from screwing up and calling the 5-8 plays per game that make no logical sense it would help out greatly. I expect our offense to be better this year. We return the bulk of it. If I remember correctly we basically lose Bumphis, Green (although Johnson is my favorite when he is healthy anyway), Smith if he doesn't use his 6th year of eligibility or gets hurt, and Arceto Clark. Out of those guys, Bumphis hurts the worst, but we have some young guys that hopefully can fill out that slot receiver spot. Arceto was clutch at times but we really had him play out of position because he and Bumphis were really our two best options. I hope some of those rising Sophomores and Redshirt Freshmen step up and give us the downfield threat that we need. I was fairly pleased with the offensive line last year and expect it to be the same or improved next year.

Last year was the first year in a really new system for the players, but I felt the coaches (primarily the playcaller) weren't as prepared for the new system as they should have been. The system can work and will work if we don't hold ourselves back. Our coaches have got to be willing to change the gameplan when a particular area is striving. We were terrible at this last year. When our running game was getting 5-8 yards per carry we would throw it 3 times in a row and end up punting.
 
horshack.sixpack

horshack.sixpack

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So our offensive hopes are basically strength of a returning offensive line and that Dan gives us less of Les...that's something at least, I was struggling for optimism on that front.
 
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studentdawg87

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Speaking of returning our whole OL, we will be starting four or five upperclassmen next year (depending on if Smith returns), and we don't have jack **** behind them. Our OL recruiting sucked this year as it has every year, and Hevesy seems to be terrible at evaluating talent.

We will never take the next step as long as we keep signing the type of OL we have been signing.
 
missouridawg

missouridawg

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studentdawg87 said:
Speaking of returning our whole OL, we will be starting four or five upperclassmen next year (depending on if Smith returns), and we don't have jack **** behind them. Our OL recruiting sucked this year as it has every year, and Hevesy seems to be terrible at evaluating talent.

We will never take the next step as long as we keep signing the type of OL we have been signing.
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You people (and I mean that as derogatory as possible) have to got to stop with the O-Line was the problems **** from last year... It simply wasn't the case.

Our front 5 next year will be Clausell (will be his 3rd season starting), Malone (started 8 this past year), Day (3rd season starting), Jackson (rock solid), and Siddoway (started a ton last year). That's a more than capable group (look as how well they played against LSU last year).

The rest of the group, including Robinson, Muniz, Holley, Desper, Senior, Knox, Beckwith, and Carter will be more than capable of giving good minutes.
 
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Hey, reasonable C34 is back. Nice to see you not trolling.

Agree on all points. I especially hope #4 is true and we should have a solid enough OL to execute it.

If we continue where we left off last year by stubbornly pursuing that scheme that our coaches can't coach and players can't execute, somebody needs to make Mullen uncomfortable.
 
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Coach34

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studentdawg87 said:
Speaking of returning our whole OL, we will be starting four or five upperclassmen next year (depending on if Smith returns), and we don't have jack **** behind them. Our OL recruiting sucked this year as it has every year, and Hevesy seems to be terrible at evaluating talent.

We will never take the next step as long as we keep signing the type of OL we have been signing.
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All the Hevesy hate again. He is not the only one that decides what OL players we recruit. Mullen, Koenning, and the rest of the offensive staff give opinions on that as well.
 
War Machine Dawg

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Where is Lawson, the other O.B. OL we signed with Robinson? Seems to me he should be a guy expected to contribute by now.
 
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studentdawg87

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Your reading comprehension sucks. I never said our OL was the problem last year. I did, however, say we failed at recruiting OL this year, much like we have every year Mullen has been here.
 
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