Here is my question about the beating incident at Ole Miss...

[Faustdog]

If you are the Ole Miss administration, shouldn't there be an all out effort on your part to try to find out who did this? There is no doubt that one of your students was viciously beaten, on campus, and sent to the hospital. Another person whom I presume to be a student was kicked in the head while trying to defend the unconscious victim and suffered serious ear damage.

If the Nkemdeche's are not guilty, then you have a person or persons with extremely violent tendencies likely still roaming the campus. This is not an ordinary fraternity party fight. Those usually don't end with an unconscious person still being kicked in the head. If I have children in school there, I would be disturbed over the University's apparent lack of concern for finding those responsible.

And if I'm a reporter, that's what I'm asking about. Why the hell haven't they found out who is responsible? This was a very public incident.

 

[AHSDawg]

Exactly. But, you don't have to search for the perpetrator if you know who committed the crime. You just aren't worried about it because you are too busy covering up...

 

[onewoof]

Another question - does this qualify as a hate crime? Is it more severe desecrating two human beings than a statue?

 

[aTotal360]

Pfft. Did you never go to college? That happens on the reg.**

You can't find information that you aren't looking for.

 

[The Peeper]

My exact reply in another thread, $25,000 reward for somebody assaulting a statue but no interest in solving the severe beating and assault of a real human being.

 

[rem101]

Speaking from personal experience, I can't believe it took UPD that long to

get to the KA house. Back in 2006, they were so quick, I was barely done kicking the other guys *** before they showed up.

 

[WilCoDawg]

This is a great question I've been pondering

It's obvious there was a crime commited. Why didn't they try to find the perp? If it was a rape instead of a beating, surely they would have searched until finding someone who was guilty. If it was a murder, surely they would have found someone, if only a goat. There was people all around. How hard is it to find a person of interest???Something is fishy with this whole thing one way or another.

 

[coach66]

Would a simple lie detector test clear all this up? If the brothers are

innocent then why not take one and get this over with?

 

[Faustdog]

I really don't like lie detector tests, because I believe they can be manipulated. I'm really more concerned as to why there isn't or wasn't an all out effort to find the people who did this. It seems like a really big deal.

 

[coach66]

Well if I was innocent in a civil trial I would damn well take one,

pass it and then release it to the media and volunteer to take one administered by the plaintiff's team. This would be over in no time if they could do that*.

 

[FormerlyHighLifeRebel]

Some studies show that lie detector tests are right about 60 percent of the time. They are inadmissible in court because they are not generally accepted as being reliable.

While I generally disagree with just about everything you post, never take a lie detector test. Ever. I wouldn't wish jail time on any innocent person because they failed a lie detector test.

 

[coach66]

I had no idea they were that inaccurate. I thought they were still used quite

often by the police to clear suspects but thankfully I don't have much experience in that area.

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Nevada, New Jersey,New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Utah, Washington, Wyoming allow polygraph as evidence in court but ONLY if all parties agree to allow the results in. The rules as to when agreement must occur (before or after the test) and in what types of cases they are admissible (some are only for civil, or for limited purposes) vary by state. As far as I know, only New Mexico allows polygraph results for criminal cases, and even then only for very specific types of cases (sex crimes and such).

 

[ShrubDog]

Bite your tongue during controled questions etc....pass

 

[2001OleMiss]

Im a little dissapointed in some of y'all. Were all you clowns in the chess club at state? There are several fist fights on or around every campus in the country every weekend. ****, I've seen this 1,000 times. Police show up, settle things down and ask a few questions. If the cop determines you are drunk your statements are basically worthless. Nothing happens 99% of the time unless somebody is killed or has a life altering injury. Yes, Baird was knocked out and went to the hospital, he was also out boozing it up a few days later. You can walk into any jurisdiction in the damn country and tell them I was drunk last night and got my *** beat at a frat party and they are going to tell you to get the hell out of there. They do not have time or means to bring in a detective for a damn frat fight!
Like I said yesterday, so what if nkemdiche whopped his ***? Do you really believe this guy did absolutely nothing but try to walk away? lol! It looks like both sides are full of **** to me. Baird just doesn't know how to take an *** whooping, from whoever it may have been.

 

[coach66]

Well, I'm glad this has all been cleared up*.

whatsnextku

I was at State 4.5 years (double major*). I partied pretty hard and ran with greeks, gdi's and jocks. I was never involved in a fight of any kind. I did witness a few fights and yes it did sometimes involve jocks whipping frat boy's assess but it honestly was rare and almost always at Len Lew's. I know you were probably kidding but beatings like what is being alleged here are rare, I hope.

 

[aTotal360]

^^^has an Oakley sticker on his "Z"^^^

 

[FormerlyHighLifeRebel]

They are never used by the police to clear suspects, only to convict them. Even if you pass, they can still go after you. They'll say you messed with the machine or that lie detector tests are reliable.

If you pass, you haven't won. If you don't pass, you've lost.

 

[coach66]

Well said.

nm

 

[uptowndawg]

This one went beyond your average frat fight when several people decided to started kicking the head of a unconscious kid.

 

[AHSDawg]

"doesn't know how to take an *** whopping"... Wow. I partied as hard as anyone in college... Never got into a fight because I liked to believe I wasn't white trash... I did see a few fights and NEVER saw one that required an ambulance nor did I see a convulsing concussion victim...

 

[johnson86-1]

"doesn't know how to take an *** whopping"... Wow. I partied as hard as anyone in college... Never got into a fight because I liked to believe I wasn't white trash... I did see a few fights and NEVER saw one that required an ambulance nor did I see a convulsing concussion victim...

Most of the fights I saw were relatively weak. Even in places where you would have thought there'd be a risk of getting seriously injured people mainly stuck to straight up fist fighting and didn't do anything with the intent to cause permanent damage, although obviously a punch that lands right can do that. Never any kicking while people were down, no continued beating after the fight was won, no attempt to dislocate joints, break arms, etc.

 

[patdog]

I think (hope) he was being sarcastic.

 

[Dog316]

Im a little dissapointed in some of y'all. Were all you clowns in the chess club at state? There are several fist fights on or around every campus in the country every weekend. ****, I've seen this 1,000 times. Police show up, settle things down and ask a few questions. If the cop determines you are drunk your statements are basically worthless. Nothing happens 99% of the time unless somebody is killed or has a life altering injury. Yes, Baird was knocked out and went to the hospital, he was also out boozing it up a few days later. You can walk into any jurisdiction in the damn country and tell them I was drunk last night and got my *** beat at a frat party and they are going to tell you to get the hell out of there. They do not have time or means to bring in a detective for a damn frat fight!
Like I said yesterday, so what if nkemdiche whopped his ***? Do you really believe this guy did absolutely nothing but try to walk away? lol! It looks like both sides are full of **** to me. Baird just doesn't know how to take an *** whooping, from whoever it may have been.

You, sir, are a sick individual

 

[thatsbaseball]

nkemdishee sounds like a coward and you sound like an idiot. Which I guess is pretty much in line when you think about it.

 

[idog]

you've seen someone beat unconcious and sent to the ER a 1,000 times?

Im a little dissapointed in some of y'all. Were all you clowns in the chess club at state? There are several fist fights on or around every campus in the country every weekend. ****, I've seen this 1,000 times. Police show up, settle things down and ask a few questions. If the cop determines you are drunk your statements are basically worthless. Nothing happens 99% of the time unless somebody is killed or has a life altering injury. Yes, Baird was knocked out and went to the hospital, he was also out boozing it up a few days later. You can walk into any jurisdiction in the damn country and tell them I was drunk last night and got my *** beat at a frat party and they are going to tell you to get the hell out of there. They do not have time or means to bring in a detective for a damn frat fight!
Like I said yesterday, so what if nkemdiche whopped his ***? Do you really believe this guy did absolutely nothing but try to walk away? lol! It looks like both sides are full of **** to me. Baird just doesn't know how to take an *** whooping, from whoever it may have been.

color me impressed. during my greek career at MSU and living six years in downtown/midtown Memphis I never saw that once.

 

[Daledawg]

We certainly have some people sitting on their thrown judging.......I was in a fraternity in early 2000s and I saw plenty of fights. One included a guy that was talking **** and got knocked out in 1 punch. Subsequently, there were a couple of kicks when he was down. This stuff happens late on a Friday/saturday more often than you know. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the keemdiches go down for this.......but I bet the Baird guy was running his mouth, possibly using racial language and got what he deserved. If he was truly kicked when he was down by 300lbs football players, he probably wouldn't have walked out of the ER a couple of hours later. Just sayin.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Was never in a fight in my 4 years at State but there was a big reason for that. Although me and my friends did put the fear of God in one dude that decided to hit his girlfriend outside a bar.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Ahhh the old race card...that makes it all OK.

 

[HD6]

The big reason is nobody picks a fight with a 6-5 300 pound farmer.

 

[Faustdog]

I can promise you, I'm not sitting on a thrown.

 

[thekimmer]

Excellent point!.....

My exact reply in another thread, $25,000 reward for somebody assaulting a statue but no interest in solving the severe beating and assault of a real human being.

Not one hair was harmed on anyone's head due to the statue incident and the university kicks in $25K to open mouths. I wonder how just a hundred bucks would have helped solve a case where real people were seriously injured! Hmmm....nevermind. The 'clean-up squad' probably had 5X that in everyone who was there's hands the next day!