Here's the guy
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As a Landscape Architect in Austin I deal with tree replacement situations often. Most municipalities have set standards for Tree Mitigation required either for development or because someone killed, damaged or cut down an existing tree. It is different for every city, but generally it is based on species, size (DBH caliper inches), health of the tree, etc. The value of the tree will be determined by whatever the required caliper inch replacement will be. In Austin these would be classified as "Heritage Oaks" which must be preserved. They do not allow for live oaks of this size to be removed for development. Likely if they were killed here, the City Arborist would require a 3 to 1 caliper inch replacement. Hypothetically, you would have to plant & maintain for 1 year (90) 2" caliper category one trees to replace one 60" live oak. The replacement trees could be planted either on the original site or in nearby City Park Land. This replacement would be required in addition to a very hefty fine.
Two inch live oaks would be around $400 -$600 each installed including required planting soil, staking & mulch. This would put you near $90k for two 60" trees. I do not know the exact size of the trees in question, or the City of Austin's requirements, but with soil removal & replacement, Tree mitigation requirements, fees & fines you are looking at a very serious investment. The larger the trees you use for replacement the higher the price gets.
The guy is stupid and should spend some quality time in jail. Additionally, he should be financially responsible for the damage caused. Trees are not always "just trees". These have been around longer than many of the buildings on campus & are landmarks in their own right. It really is amazing to me that anyone would do something like this for a football rivalry.
Two inch live oaks would be around $400 -$600 each installed including required planting soil, staking & mulch. This would put you near $90k for two 60" trees. I do not know the exact size of the trees in question, or the City of Austin's requirements, but with soil removal & replacement, Tree mitigation requirements, fees & fines you are looking at a very serious investment. The larger the trees you use for replacement the higher the price gets.
The guy is stupid and should spend some quality time in jail. Additionally, he should be financially responsible for the damage caused. Trees are not always "just trees". These have been around longer than many of the buildings on campus & are landmarks in their own right. It really is amazing to me that anyone would do something like this for a football rivalry.
Someone will have to pay for the clean up & mitigation regardless. Who should pay the bill? Not the guy who intentionally caused the damage? Then who? Taxpayers? Because that is who will be picking up the tab for this man's stupidity! Holding someone responsible for his action does not constitute destroying his life. He destroyed his own life when he attempted to kill those trees. He should be held accountable!
when instead you should blame him for taking action that causes such prosecution. this wouldn't happen if HE didn't make a terrible decision. we are responsible for our own actions.
question: if the guy were a multimillionaire would you think it necessary for him to foot the bill? (btw, this question is a trap)
question: if the guy were a multimillionaire would you think it necessary for him to foot the bill? (btw, this question is a trap)
Not sure how Alabama law works, but in Mississippi I do believe it's like $5,000 per tree, it doesn't matter how old it is or what it means to you. It's just a tree in the eyes of the law.. Any lawyers want to chime in....
Some of it is pretty good. It sort of reads like a SPS thread...
-- "He should have been more careful not to leaf any evidence."
-- "Hopefully, some time in jail will lead him to turn acorner."
-- "Anyone who does such a cowardly act should be shrubbed out."
/Yes I know, some of these jokes are bush-league...
-- "He should have been more careful not to leaf any evidence."
-- "Hopefully, some time in jail will lead him to turn acorner."
-- "Anyone who does such a cowardly act should be shrubbed out."
/Yes I know, some of these jokes are bush-league...
lovin on some bush league jokes and hooters girls are all of the sudden out of no where getting extremely hot. you haven't started using that fantastic website called facebook yet to reconnect with folks from high school have you?
/kidding of course
//i'm on my way too damn it because i liked the cleverness of those jokes and hooters is all of the sudden a fantastic place to see hot women
/kidding of course
//i'm on my way too damn it because i liked the cleverness of those jokes and hooters is all of the sudden a fantastic place to see hot women
And by not explaining what I meant by destroying his life I allowed idiots to put words in my mouth. What I was referring to was comments I've read in different places today saying he should be executed or sent to <17> me in the *** prison for life. Theres no way they will ever get the total cost out of him, but geesh life in prison or death over a tree? Really?
Yes he should be required to pay restitution either with money or time, but not life.
Yes he should be required to pay restitution either with money or time, but not life.
He will be known as the guy who poisoned Toomers corner. You don't think he won't be in legend amongst the Alabama fan base? If not an actual legend, one in his own mind which is good enough for most sidewalk Alabama fans. As long as he can evade jail-time, I guarantee he will come out of this deal with no regrets. Alabama fans are just that crazy.
I hear proceeds from sales of the shirt helps him.
http://www.zazzle.com/free_harvey_updyke_tshirt-235358508343555432
If someone were brave enough they could even wear it to the game when we visit!
http://www.zazzle.com/free_harvey_updyke_tshirt-235358508343555432
If someone were brave enough they could even wear it to the game when we visit!