Okay,It's not an award off of 1 match. Now respond like a 12 years old again
Question for the board.
If Corby, Mark Manning, and Bob Nicolls were all in a boat and it was sinking, who do you toss the weighted vest to first?
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Question for the board.
If Corby, Mark Manning, and Bob Nicolls were all in a boat and it was sinking, who do you toss the weighted vest to first?
Ryan ...Coach Of The Year.....that's kinda funny...coach of the team that steamrolled by Penn State 36 to 5
Participation trophies for all!
Coach Ryan did well with the hand he was dealt. The young bucks just ain’t so young anymore.
Clearly we are not part of the big ten.
We just beat the Big Ten All Stars 26-15…….if you give the all stars 141 and HWT Pins.
It's funny how some posters get their jollies from being a trite, moronic and simpleton agitator. It makes me smile because they're too stupid to realize how much of an imbecile they really are.
That's fair. I doubt they care about Big 10 awards. You also have credibility when talking about crying. You do it every opportunity you get on your home board crying about our meanie mods giving you the ban hammer.
It's pretty comical. I can give them Davino even though Duke is certainly arguable.
Mendez over MM is as funny as their preseeds. The argument is that's what's expected from him is silly. If Ohtani does what is expected of him this year would the writers not vote for him as MVP because he's won so many.
Cael is the most egregious. Tough crap if you need to give it to him every year, then someone knock him off. It's not like OSU drastically outperformed or Tom managed a lineup that went through a bunch of adversity. Cael is setting records with a team that has 3 freshman and 3 sophomores and had to plug a gap in one of the 10 spots we had after losing a starter.
I'm sure they don't care a ton, I'm fine for any fans that care. We want to see our coaches and wrestlers get the accolades they deserve and care for them because they won't come out and say it. Mendez obviously cares as he shilled for himself in the post match interview talking about bonus when he basically wrestled a one take down match. Just makes the Big Ten look stupid, petty and but that's par for the course.
Mendez over MM is as funny as their preseeds. The argument is that's what's expected from him is silly. If Ohtani does what is expected of him this year would the writers not vote for him as MVP because he's won so many.
Cael is the most egregious. Tough crap if you need to give it to him every year, then someone knock him off. It's not like OSU drastically outperformed or Tom managed a lineup that went through a bunch of adversity. Cael is setting records with a team that has 3 freshman and 3 sophomores and had to plug a gap in one of the 10 spots we had after losing a starter.
I'm sure they don't care a ton, I'm fine for any fans that care. We want to see our coaches and wrestlers get the accolades they deserve and care for them because they won't come out and say it. Mendez obviously cares as he shilled for himself in the post match interview talking about bonus when he basically wrestled a one take down match. Just makes the Big Ten look stupid, petty and but that's par for the course.
With a garbage TD at the end when Hardy was in desperation mode. Real score subtracting that was 4-2.How big did Mendez put it to Brock Hardy on Sunday? Oh, that's right...7-2!
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I find it difficult justify Davino over Duke. They both avenged their only loss of the year by beating the #1 seed in the Finals. However, Davino’s win was a TB decision over a true freshman. Duke’s revenge win in the finals was against a Senior and defending National Champion by a decisive Major Decision, which came on the heels of another decisive 20 point Major Decision over the previous #1 Cannon.
Agree, but I guess if don't want to give PSU all the awards you can make some type of case for Davino and you gave Duke OW of the tournament. But you're right, I think Duke's resume is definitely more impressive. To give PSU none of those 3 awards is just bat poop crazy.
With two major exceptions:
1) Mitchell has been pinning a lot of his opponents this year (That's new).
2) More importantly, Mitchell has more pins than Mendez this year. (That's new and more dominating than Mendez).
In summary: I dismiss your "crying argument." Fighting for what's right is not crying.
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So you cry about the PSU fans. classic
Way too many PSU fans lately channeling Iowa fan vibes. Enjoy the Dynasty without being a douche.
Ohio State had a great tournament the dual doesn’t matter. I have no problem with the awards the way they fell. The winning coach isn’t automatically the COTY. Why else have these awards?
I’m sorry, is it coach of the year or coach of the tourney? Why would the dual not count for coach of the year?
Nope. The Big10 obviously gives out participation awards.
Tom could never get it to work for the NCAAs, but maybe next year they can award 40 Big10 team points to the highest finishing Big10 team in the dual tournament. That way when the PSU fans are bytching about only winning by 12.5 points, our conscious monitors can tell us to calm down. It is all fair and square, PSU could have gone to the event. Then when Cael does take them to the event and wins the Big10 by a hundred the same group will tell us how unfair it is that PSU goes to the Dual event just to pick up the extra points.
With a gift 3 at the end of a failed hail mary.How big did Mendez put it to Brock Hardy on Sunday? Oh, that's right...7-2!
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Can you explain the "year" perspective then? I mean other than something that reads like Mitchell is more impressive than Mendez, but Mendez is better compared to previous Mendez models.It's not an award off of 1 match
Or how Mendez is more deserving of the wrestler of the year award based on being so much better than the previous Mendez model when it is quite obvious the jump Barr has made is much greater than the jump Mendez has made?
It most certainly is not a one match analysis, but no matter the measurables used Messenbrink and Barr finish ahead of Mendez. At least to this point.
There are 3 days and 5 matches left to add to the determinations, but if Mendez is ahead at this point the judging mechanism is purely subjective.
I don't know why the coaches voted the way they did. Mendez and Mitchell were both deserving and only 1 can win . Regardless of who won that award will be in a closet soon. Can't believe people actually care about this
Excellent point. Why not give the award to Michigan State coach, Chandler. MSU reached double digits in team scoring. That seems significant since Mich State is capable of scoring none.
Or maybe Bono. Wisconsin either cut their scholarship allotment for wrestling from 9.9 to 5 or have seriously discussed it and they still finished 9th with 55 points.
My all-time favorite Carnac the Magnificent joke:Live look in at Corby the great prognosticator:
I wasn't asking for your guess on the coaches' thought process. Your take on why Mendez may be perceived as more dominant because the comparison is more Mendez versus earlier Mendez model.
Some people think that they are the only one that knew only Levi was graduating from this years team. Remind you, this is the PSU board, we know our team for next year. It's not like we have to rely on slumlord to throw wasted money at next year's team!!
I see the problem. You need to take your shoes and socks off too.
Here's my perspective. Mendez was just a whisker better than Beau the previous 2 years. Many on this forum were b*tching about Beau's wrestling style and not opening up. That gives us a legit beef to b*tch about Mendez getting B10 wrestler of the year!
I am baffled that you seem to care so much about whether we care or not…..
if the awards are so meaningless, the why even hand them out. And if they are so meaningless why do we invite our past hodge winners to meet, where they seem very happy to carry them out on the mat and have us applaud them. While smiling….
Thought we were discussing big 10 wrestler of the year? The hodge is way different. Don't move the goalpost on me know Paul
what happened to the super team they arent ever gonna win the title!
so the best coach with probably the best BIG team ever won no awards?how does that work?