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<blockquote data-quote="xWVU2010x" data-source="post: 129448468" data-attributes="member: 1467482">It was a fluke!&nbsp; Do you seriously think if we played a Clemson team that had Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Ellington and Dwayne Allen on the same offense we would contain them 10x over AND drop 70?&nbsp; You're out of your mind!&nbsp; It was admittedly a masterful coaching job by DH, he in a vacuum came up with an excellent gameplan for the Orange Bowl, but the rest of the season he was underwhelming and no better than Stewart, and he has never consistently came up with great gameplans over the course of his career.&nbsp; We ended up in the same 3 way tie that Stewart did the year before, DH just beat the right teams, are you asserting that is somehow good coaching?&nbsp; The previous two seasons the Big East was owned by Cincy who had an excellent coach and some great players, we were not going to knock them off of their perch regardless of who we had coaching, our talent level was not good enough.Holgorsen is playing teams that are of the same caliber as the old Big East teams.Both coaches seem to be able to beat MarylandBoth coaches seem to be unable to take on elite opponents, atleast consistentlyBoth coaches have headscratcher losses to teams like Syracuse, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, etcBoth coaches took a team of similar talent to a 5-2 Big East record in years where the conference was similarly weakBoth coaches came up with a gameplan to nuke a much more talented team in a one game bowl scenarioBoth coaches have also come up short in 3rd tier bowl gamesBoth coaches IMO are mediocre</blockquote>

[QUOTE="xWVU2010x, post: 129448468, member: 1467482"] It was a fluke! Do you seriously think if we played a Clemson team that had Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Ellington and Dwayne Allen on the same offense we would contain them 10x over AND drop 70? You're out of your mind! It was admittedly a masterful coaching job by DH, he in a vacuum came up with an excellent gameplan for the Orange Bowl, but the rest of the season he was underwhelming and no better than Stewart, and he has never consistently came up with great gameplans over the course of his career. We ended up in the same 3 way tie that Stewart did the year before, DH just beat the right teams, are you asserting that is somehow good coaching? The previous two seasons the Big East was owned by Cincy who had an excellent coach and some great players, we were not going to knock them off of their perch regardless of who we had coaching, our talent level was not good enough. Holgorsen is playing teams that are of the same caliber as the old Big East teams. Both coaches seem to be able to beat Maryland Both coaches seem to be unable to take on elite opponents, atleast consistently Both coaches have headscratcher losses to teams like Syracuse, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, etc Both coaches took a team of similar talent to a 5-2 Big East record in years where the conference was similarly weak Both coaches came up with a gameplan to nuke a much more talented team in a one game bowl scenario Both coaches have also come up short in 3rd tier bowl games Both coaches IMO are mediocre [/QUOTE]

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