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MtNittany

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The average age of Indiana's starting lineup was almost 24 years of age.... Indiana had 47 players on their roster between the ages of 22 and 25. This is Professional Minor-League Football with Universities' names written on the jersies, not college football. Why the goofs at ESPiN/ABC keep calling this farce "college football" is emblematic of that putrid pos network.
 

PSUAVLNC

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The average age of Indiana's starting lineup was almost 24 years of age.... Indiana had 47 players on their roster between the ages of 22 and 25. This is Professional Minor-League Football with Universities' names written on the jersies, not college football. Why the goofs at ESPiN/ABC keep calling this farce "college football" is emblematic of that putrid pos network.
I read this morning that Miami QB Beck said he graduated 2 years ago and hasn't been to class since. "College" football is dead, this is indeed the NFL minor league.
 

1995PSUGrad

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The average age of Indiana's starting lineup was almost 24 years of age.... Indiana had 47 players on their roster between the ages of 22 and 25. This is Professional Minor-League Football with Universities' names written on the jersies, not college football. Why the goofs at ESPiN/ABC keep calling this farce "college football" is emblematic of that putrid pos network.
Maybe it's just what college football has become, but I guess some people don't like change.
 

OhioLion

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I read this morning that Miami QB Beck said he graduated 2 years ago and hasn't been to class since. "College" football is dead, this is indeed the NFL minor league.
Not what he said.
Said he graduated 2 years ago so he doesn’t have class now.
He took classes the last 2 years, took enough credit hours to be eligible in the fall, but takes nothing now because his eligibility has run out.
 

barry j fenchak

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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.
 
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Maybe it's just what college football has become, but I guess some people don't like change.

College football has "just become" Professional Minor-League Football - no $h!t?!?! You don't say? Is there a reason why the powers that be and their toady jock-sniffing media don't call it is? Is there a reason these universities are claiming they're paying these Professional mercenaries via "promotional contracts" rather than what they're really doing which is paying them to play football games?
 
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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.

Reality like this is Professional Minor-League Football with universities' names lamely written on the jersies not college football of any kind? That kind of reality? LMAO.
 

NittPicker

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Ridiculous thread. MNC?? They won it on the field so there's nothing mythical about it. As posted above, Indiana wasn't the biggest of spenders. Those guys all lost. Is the Dodgers World Series win hollow because they spent a lot of money?? Like it or not, college football is about paying for players. Hats off to Indiana for doing on the cheap.
 

WPB_lion

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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.
Who p$ssed in your Wheaties? This post literally came from left field. Do you have voices in your head that you are arguing with?
 
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Ridiculous thread. MNC?? They won it on the field so there's nothing mythical about it. As posted above, Indiana wasn't the biggest of spenders. Those guys all lost. Is the Dodgers World Series win hollow because they spent a lot of money?? Like it or not, college football is about paying for players. Hats off to Indiana for doing on the cheap.

Really? Than why do the universities claim that they aren't paying them to play football to maintain this farce that these non-college aged mercenaries are not professionals, but are really college amateurs??? Could you explain this absurdity to me?
 

psuro

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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.
Jerry Seinfeld Reaction GIF
 

NittPicker

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Really? Than why do the universities claim that they aren't paying them to play football to maintain this farce that these non-college aged mercenaries are not professionals, but are really college amateurs??? Could you explain this absurdity to me?
Players are getting paid via NIL. You can get all twisted up about the nuance of what universities say but players are still getting paid. But that's not the topic of the thread which was started by someone who is envious of Indiana.
 
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The average age of Indiana's starting lineup was almost 24 years of age.... Indiana had 47 players on their roster between the ages of 22 and 25. This is Professional Minor-League Football with Universities' names written on the jersies, not college football. Why the goofs at ESPiN/ABC keep calling this farce "college football" is emblematic of that putrid pos network.
Why all the angst? This is what you wanted...getting an education and years of training wasn't adequate for players....they needed to be paid and treated like free agents. Amazing that without the coaching/training from colleges 99% of players would never make a NFL roster. So stop complaining this is what you insisted upon!
 
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Big_O

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Championship bought like last year’s. It’s the new reality.

Just like the Seniors PGA tour, the NFL has become the “Seniors“ pro football league. Almost nobody is going to leave early for the NFL draft and players are going to try and milk their college careers as long as possible if they are good enough to get paid well. You can easily stretch your career to 6 years by taking a standard redshirt year, a medical redshirt year and 4 years of playing.
 
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Players are getting paid via NIL. You can get all twisted up about the nuance of what universities say but players are still getting paid. But that's not the topic of the thread which was started by someone who is envious of Indiana.

No, what was said is that Indiana is a Pro team, not a "college football team" - that is a fact (as you just admitted). Stating facts has zero to do with envy Bozo.
 
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Why all the angst? This is what you wanted...getting an education and years of training wasn't adequate for players....they needed to be paid and treated like free agents. Amazing that without the coaching/training from colleges 99% of players would never make a NFL roster. So stop complaining this is what you insisted upon!

Huh? What? When precisely did I ask for the Professionalization (and annihilation) of amateur college football??? This might be the most bizzaro troll post yet.
 
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NittPicker

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No, what was said is that Indiana is a Pro team, not a "college football team" - that is a fact (as you just admitted). Stating facts has zero to do with envy Bozo.
I thought the OP was off-the-wall but wow. Looks like you've done him one better.

And I never "admitted" anything. I haven't claimed anyone is an amateur. Players are getting paid. They're playing under the umbrella of a university. You're going to have to gin up an argument elsewhere.
 

WPB_lion

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Really? Than why do the universities claim that they aren't paying them to play football to maintain this farce that these non-college aged mercenaries are not professionals, but are really college amateurs??? Could you explain this absurdity to me?
Why does it matter if they are amateurs or professionals? I am a fan of the PSU football team regardless of whether the players are getting paid or not. What stinks right now about College Football is that there are no guardrails around the money being spent and appears to be giving the "haves" an insurmountable advantage over the "have nots."

NIL and free agency has not changed the fact that a "student athlete" is really just an athlete that happens to play for a college team. Most college football players would not be at the college they are playing for if they did not have athletic ability and a lot of college football players have no interest in school. Whether or not they go to classes and actually obtain an education is up to the school and coach. This has always been the case both before NIL and after.
 

Bvillebaron

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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.
I think you have just cemented your status as the most miserable poster on this board. Congrats.
 
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people have this strange tendency to sing wonderful harmonies about democracies until it's actually implemented.
 
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Why does it matter if they are amateurs or professionals? They are playing football for our universities whether they are getting paid or not and we root for those that play for our teams. What stinks right now about College Football is that there are no guardrails around the money being spent and appears to be giving the "haves" an insurmountable advantage over the "have nots."

NIL and free agency has not changed the fact that a "student athlete" is really just an athlete that happens to play for a college team. Most college football players would not be at the college they are playing for if they did not have athletic ability and a lot of college football players have no interest in school. Whether or not they go to classes and actually obtain an education is up to the school and coach. This has always been the case whether players are paid or not.

LMAO, what difference does it make? Seriously? You think the universities are maintaining this farce in regards to their payments because it doesn't matter? LMFAO at some of you morons - it makes a MASSIVE difference within the laws and court systems that apply in regards to whether this is Professional or Amateur Sports League! For instance, the NCAA (which is the universities themselves) have no Federal Anti-Trust Exemption and it would be a clear Anti-Trust Violation if the Universities admitted that these contracts were "Pay to Play" Contracts in a Professional Football League and they were arbitrarily limiting players eligibility to play to 5 years without any kind of Antitrust Exemption from the Federal Government. The Universities would also be up $h!t$creek in regard to writing clear employment contracts without doing proper payroll withholding in addition to violating ERISA laws by not providing employee benefits..... And a ton of other reasons the Universities are attempting to maintain this sham of a lie. Utterly comical that you think the Universities are conducting this bs sham because "it makes no difference". LMAO.
 
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DandyDonII

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Rough season to go from #2 to unranked before the halfway point while having to deal with the success of bottom dweller IU. It is just not fair, why can't we do it?

But we still got our memories of Joe and his 2 natties to obsess about, not to mention the other seasons we award ourselves titles by winning games we never played. We need to remain legends in our own minds and to hell with this reality stuff.
you mean winning the National Championships with guys who went to class.....
 

94LionsFan

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I read this morning that Miami QB Beck said he graduated 2 years ago and hasn't been to class since. "College" football is dead, this is indeed the NFL minor league.
Yeah, well, you were lied to. He’s been taking classes. Just like players who wrapped up their degrees in 4 years but come back for a 5th year due to redshirting have been doing for years.
 

DandyDonII

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Why does it matter if they are amateurs or professionals? I am a fan of the PSU football team regardless of whether the players are getting paid or not. What stinks right now about College Football is that there are no guardrails around the money being spent and appears to be giving the "haves" an insurmountable advantage over the "have nots."

NIL and free agency has not changed the fact that a "student athlete" is really just an athlete that happens to play for a college team. Most college football players would not be at the college they are playing for if they did not have athletic ability and a lot of college football players have no interest in school. Whether or not they go to classes and actually obtain an education is up to the school and coach. This has always been the case both before NIL and after.
I don't think the amateur/professional distinction matters. However, for long time PSU fans, it was a thing of honor to compete with guys who got their educations here. I know in many places, the education was an after thought, but at least you got to watch guys who chose your school and matured over 4-5 years. Now, as Seinfeld once said, you are just rooting for laundry.
 

PSUPetch

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Why does it matter if they are amateurs or professionals? I am a fan of the PSU football team regardless of whether the players are getting paid or not. What stinks right now about College Football is that there are no guardrails around the money being spent and appears to be giving the "haves" an insurmountable advantage over the "have nots."

NIL and free agency has not changed the fact that a "student athlete" is really just an athlete that happens to play for a college team. Most college football players would not be at the college they are playing for if they did not have athletic ability and a lot of college football players have no interest in school. Whether or not they go to classes and actually obtain an education is up to the school and coach. This has always been the case both before NIL and after.
I care, because I’m a bit older and remember when College football was about school spirit, real student athletes, homecoming, tradition…and it was way more engaging and fun. I still root for PSU, but it’s not the same.

Trying to imagine Shane Conlan and DJ Dozier transferring to Miami for a big payday in their 5th year. Don’t mind me…like I said…I’m just old.