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If he hadn't been kicked off Oregon's team, would he have transferred willingly to Ole Miss(foregoing his final year at Oregon) in the interest of earning a Parks and Rec degree?

I think we know the answer. He decided to transfer so he could play football. The NCAA has called him on it and is making him follow the rules that every other player who transfers for athletic reasons must follow.

Sesh pretty much nailed it. The Parks & Rec degree is just the smokescreen to try to lend validity to his actions.
 

coach66

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and look at it honestly. I mean the guy committed some serious crimes and lied on multiple occassions and if that was not enough he goes out and gets busted for pot. To think you are going to whitle past all that **** like heand UM were planning to do was a stretch. If he is serious about being a park ranger then he has his opportunity to get his classes done and then start at QB in the SEC next year. He is basically serving an NCAA suspension.
 

8dog

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its a request to waive the 1 year rule. In other words, Masoli is supposed to sit for a year. He asked the NCAA to waive that rule. They denied it.

It seems there is some sentiment that the NCAA is not applying its rule correctly and that's just not the case.
 

ckDOG

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I had just assumed that the articles I read and their discussions of the graduate school program/subsequent residency waiver were part of a "if, then" framework. Most articles implied it was a foregone conclusion that he would be cleared because of the rules and/or precedence. I guess that's what I get for trusting the Clarion Ledger or whomever...

A quick google gave me this: http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/TGONLINE2010.pdf

Here is what the rule book says about residency requirement waivers:

Waiver — An action that sets aside an NCAA rule because a specific, extraordinary circumstance prevents you from
meeting the rule. An NCAA school may file a waiver on your behalf; you cannot file a waiver for yourself. The school
does not administer the waiver, the conference office or NCAA does.

The referenced "rule" is the residency rule requiring you to sit out a year.

That pretty much gives the NCAA the right do do whatever the hell they want on a case by case basis. Precedence has shown the NCAA is okay with transfers motivated for illness in the immediate family and also for grad-school motivated reason (Greg Paulus). However, I'm not quite sure the NCAA has ever waived the rule for anyone where suspension caused the desire to transfer under the presumption the grad school precedence would get them in.

Masoli has 2 years left to play 1. His transfer was clearly motivated by his suspension from Oregon, not by his desire to become a Park Ranger. The NCAA acted within their realm of power, assuming this rule book is all there is to go by.

I retract my original statement...my bads.

Did I just miss the articles that voiced any skepticism on whether he would be cleared or not? Or are my 10 minute googling skills better than any bush league investigative reporting at the CL or anywhere else???
 

dawgstudent

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Would Paulus have transferred to Syracuse if he couldn't play football for one more year?

I know Masoli's situation is not equal to Paulus's but I could see the logic that way.
 

jacksonreb1

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get into the character evaluations then you guys won't be able to get any more LOI's faxed from jail cells...........untill they empty everybody's roster of kids who've had trouble then IMO the ncaa has no business messing with masoli. if they want to makea rule that kids' convicted of a crime can't play then fine but don't screw a kid or school by playing fast and loose with your own rules.
 

EAVdog

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That is the only rule that applies. Reynardo Sidney was a big story, especially after the other shenanigans at USC. Masoli got denied because it appeared that he was skirting around the rules. The NCAA is a multi-billion dollar organization and wants to make sure it stays that way. It's marketing scheme is to promote the 'notion' of the Student Athelete no matter how thin that it at times. They spend millions advertising that point every year. Judging by the revenue flowing in its working.

Frankly Ole Miss fans should have known better; after Reynardo, USC, Agent Gate etc... this year the NCAA is out to show it's disciplinary muscle.
 

Dawgbreeze

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Most folks know that isn't going to happen. He was a one and done semester hired gun. The NCAA basically did the same thing to Sidney but he stayed. Good for them, for once they saw the hypocrisy and Nutless and his group now can try to remove the egg from their faces.
 

seshomoru

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dawgstudent said:
Would Paulus have transferred to Syracuse if he couldn't play football for one more year?

I know Masoli's situation is not equal to Paulus's but I could see the logic that way.
Well, Paulus graduated from Duke with no basketball eligibility. He went to Syracuse for his graduate program and decided he wanted to play football. They decided to let him. Had he stayed at Duke for grad school, he still could have played football.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Just that it is very gray.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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elguapo543 said:
I don't mind you chuckling at our expense, but to defend the NCAA is retarded. You guys could be burnt by this next year.
COULD get burnt?? wtf? The NCAA has been laying the shaft to MSU over and over in sport after sport the past decade. And it was the Rebs that were chuckling the whole time. <div>
</div><div>I have a feeling that there is a starving lawyer somewhere between Tupelo and Batesville that is getting some papers ready.</div>
 

mstateglfr

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Seshomoru said:
they wrote something that gives them a lot of room to maneuver:

"One of the factors our members have determined is appropriate for a
graduate student waiver is if the transfer is academically motivated.”

In this case, I'm assuming they found out/figured/determined that in this case the athlete was merely simply for somewhere to play.
Speaking of Paulus, how did that whole academics thing work out for him? He is working now as an assistant coach at Army.

Knox from Bama tried to go to UAB this year but was denied because its in the UA system so he went to UNC. The very UNC that was friggin beyond desperate for post players this spring. ****, UNC tried to get a player for NEXT SEASON to just enter early at the last minute. You really thing Knox's decision was academically motivated? Hell no. Academics was the last damn thing on his mind.

Playing time was what motivated him. He is at UN FRIGGIN C right now. They are the Zeus of college basketball and Knox is going to get significant PT for them. That isnt because of academics. He didnt even want to go there to begin with.

Academics, F that. Did Lon Kruger's kid go to UNLV a few years ago for academics? Hell no. It was because his dad needed him. He helped get them to the Sweet 16, i believe. Did he stay there afterwards for the academics? Of course not. He went pro. Because it wasnt about the academics.

F the NCAA. The only thing about them that is consistent is their inconsistency.
 

8dog

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its clear evidence that this wasn't academically motivated. They aren't playing fast and loose with their own rules. They did what their rules say they can do.
 

maroondawg

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if this was truly an "academically motivated" decision, then Masoli should have no problem attending classes for the next 2 semesters and play ball in 2011. The NCAA is allowing him to focus on the Parks & Rec degree without all the football distractions.
 

ckDOG

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he would have been looking for graduate programs to transfer to before his *** got kicked off of Oregon's team.
 

maroondawg

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if he had been looking at other schools before he was kicked off the team, this would all be a completely different story