I can bite on that too. I was raised to believe that homosexuality was wrong and I didn’t have anything biologically really pushing me in that direction. I participated in premarital sex, something I also was taught was wrong. However I was raised that boys date girls and from the time I was young that seemed to be what was nurtured into me. I do think for some people it’s a tougher choice, something they’d have to fight if they didn’t want to be it. I do something similar as a husband because I like women but want to remain faithful to the wife that I have. Not sure that’s the best answer ever though.
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I don't care but y'all ain't got to be such hicks about it.
Right there's the solution to Washington's NFL team's name dilemma. "The Washington Gloryholes" has a really nice ring to it.
Here’s my viewpoint for all (none) of you who asked. I’m heterosexual. Have been married a long time to the same gal. The ‘sex’ part of our relationship is a quite small (lol) percentage of our time together. The rest is companionship and just doing life stuff together. I enjoy her company.
Now, was the first attraction to her a natural pre-sexual instinct? Most likely. Whatever it was, I didn’t have a choice about it. My brain/soul/heart whatever said “that’s for you”. Same thing for all the other girlfriends, fantasies, what have you. Therefore, I have to assume that gay folks have the same thing going on. To me, it just makes sense. Sexual preference, to me, is just another sort of human variation like being right/left handed or having blonde/brown/red hair.
Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not. I’ve stopped worrying about it because I’ve got myself figured out and that’s really all that matters.
Now, was the first attraction to her a natural pre-sexual instinct? Most likely. Whatever it was, I didn’t have a choice about it. My brain/soul/heart whatever said “that’s for you”. Same thing for all the other girlfriends, fantasies, what have you. Therefore, I have to assume that gay folks have the same thing going on. To me, it just makes sense. Sexual preference, to me, is just another sort of human variation like being right/left handed or having blonde/brown/red hair.
Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not. I’ve stopped worrying about it because I’ve got myself figured out and that’s really all that matters.
I used to work with a guy who said he was against gay marriage because he didn't want to see 2 guys kissing in public. I told him that nothing was stopping that from happening now and I really didn't want to see him and his wife(300+ lbs)kissing in public either.
1. Do you feel there same way about people that are born with deformities? I'm sure that wasn't in his plan either.
2. Have you ever watched porn with 2 chicks?
You seem triggered. You typed what you typed. I responded by saying that no gays had ever tried to strong-arm me into accepting them. You're angry that I responded, and now you're going to run away, as if you think I care that anyone puts me on ignore.
My wife has a relative that is gay and lazy AF.
Something like that.
But he also said, clearly, "that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!"
See I always thought sin was supposed to be enticing. Like getting drunk, sex with tons of women, telling creative lies to get ahead at work, hustling at pool or poker. All of those things I guess are sin-/but not “gross”
So when a minister bashes homosexuality with extra emphasis..is it because he sees it as sin...or because he sees it as gross??
I hear Sodom brought up all the time as a key argument against homosexuality. Ezekiel 16 mentions Sodoms’ biggest sins:
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"`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
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They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
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As a person who is very sick, I need this entertainment, but I'll chime in. As a Bible believing Christian, I do believe homosexuality is a sin. That said, I do not hate people who live or entertain this lifestyle; I have had many great conversations with homosexuals. I'm not afraid to be around them, and I would have them over to my house. However, I will never tell them that it's ok, or support it. I will support them, but not that lifestyle. However, not everyone will hold the same beliefs as I do. Therefore, I will not force my beliefs on them. What makes America a beautiful country is our freedom; our freedom to speak, our freedom to think. Be respectful toward me; I'll be respectful toward you. I may not agree with you, but I will respect your opinion. Not everyone believes the Bible, or is a Christian; therefore, I do not expect everyone to view this topic the same way I do. I won't give you a hard time, but don't call me a homophobe or a hater, just because I don't agree.
IMO a gay man is the reincarnation of a strong female personality and vice versa.
You often see gay men that are actually switch hitters, I think what's happening is the strong female personification of the past life is conflicting with the male physical persona in the present life.
Since all studies that have been done trying to explain homosexuality through either hereditary or environmental factors have failed to establish any connection, and the idea that it's a "choice" is absurdly ridiculous, reincarnation is most logical explanation that I can come up with.
You often see gay men that are actually switch hitters, I think what's happening is the strong female personification of the past life is conflicting with the male physical persona in the present life.
Since all studies that have been done trying to explain homosexuality through either hereditary or environmental factors have failed to establish any connection, and the idea that it's a "choice" is absurdly ridiculous, reincarnation is most logical explanation that I can come up with.
Where does science and biology fit in this argument? That part is never talked about in the homo debate. I guess because you can't really debate it. It's scientific fact.
Science says if you ever rubbed one out you been done by a dude so you're gay AF brah. Can't dis science.
My daughter is gay and 17, she has a girlfriend that lives in Canada (real she has visited her) and is planning to move there after high school. I have no problem with that. The only thing that makes me sad is I will never have a biological grandchild from her. I believe she will adopt and I will love that child(ren). My nephew is a hellfire and brimstone preacher and I have been going to his church. Mostly because of my elderly parents as it makes them happy. I am a Christian and believe it is a sin, but so is premarital sex, coveting (we do that everyday), and the list goes on. As far as the debate of is a person born that way or is it a choice. There are many sides to that. I would 90% of us can go back to first grade and think about it now as adults and will realize the kids that was gay then and grew up and was gay. They probably did not even understand at that age. Now for the choice part, I know of a man in my area who is a minister who is gay, he has no desire for women at all. But he does not practice homosexuality that I know of. But that is HIS choice. I truly believe my daughter was born that way and get the argument from people that God would not make a gay person. Ok, then why is there people born with physical and mental disabilities? I do and have told me daughter and she understands that I cannot understand the transgender thing. I do not hate wish harm or ridicule someone that is trans, it is just hard for me to understand. No judgement, and that is the key, in the bible it says whosoever is without sin cast the first stone. Live and let live. I have no problem with anyone with different beliefs as long as you do not have a problem with mine.
I think that hatred is a sign of high emotion.https://www.darkhorizons.com/netflix-scraps-series-after-turkish-demand/
That got me thinking -- what's the general consensus on homosexuality in your area? What are your personal beliefs on the matter, if you don't mind sharing them with us?
I was raised to believe that homosexuality is a sin, but also that we shouldn't judge people and to just live and let live.
I no longer believe that it's a sin, but rather merely a normal varying combination of genetics and environment, the same things that influence heterosexuality. And I still believe in "live and let live".
people who hate homosexuals, are actively directing their attention to a behavior that, otherwise, would not effect them.
why? Why such strong feeling and focus toward a behavior they could simply ignore in others.
Why the obsession? The only thing that explains it is that they hate in others what they hate in themselves. This Is the only explanation that personalizes it to that level.
As for sin? It is only defined by the opinion of who writes it.
the Bible references that tattoos are a sin. .
“Leviticus 19:28, says,”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.”
Don’t hear much talk about that one...no protests. No outcries at the sinfulness of the tatio dealer. No murdering of people for their tattoo sins. Son don’t buy that gay-hate is “because it’s a sin.” Ain’t no such thing as “Half way Christians”. Bible says that too..
Most Christians do a lot of “picking and choosing” of rules they believe were given to them by their ultimate judge.
So American companies just cave to that type of **** in every other country?
I guess they can only be woke, diversity, inclusion, LGBTQ, Kumbaya, etc warriors here in the homeland.
As for the topic in general.
Don't really care. However, I do like to tell those who do really care that procreation is the goal of our DNA...and that's science...
That the ultimate goal of progressing cannot be achieved via homosexuality just due to the simple fact that it doesn't create more offspring.
The same goes for abortion.
So the next homosexual pro-abortion person or couple that inquires about your pro-life and not so big on homosexual opinions and tries to tell you they're progressive...challenge them on it.
Can't be for two things that cut back on opportunities for life to exist and then progress...and call yourself a progressive.
I guess they can only be woke, diversity, inclusion, LGBTQ, Kumbaya, etc warriors here in the homeland.
As for the topic in general.
Don't really care. However, I do like to tell those who do really care that procreation is the goal of our DNA...and that's science...
That the ultimate goal of progressing cannot be achieved via homosexuality just due to the simple fact that it doesn't create more offspring.
The same goes for abortion.
So the next homosexual pro-abortion person or couple that inquires about your pro-life and not so big on homosexual opinions and tries to tell you they're progressive...challenge them on it.
Can't be for two things that cut back on opportunities for life to exist and then progress...and call yourself a progressive.
I think everyone should be free to live their life however they want. I am a pastor and I'm not even sure the church has the right thinking on it. 2 times it is mentioned in the New Testament it refers to male prostitutes and the 3rd and last time it refers to worshippers of another God in Rome having orgies as their worship. It is mentioned in the old testament, but it's in the same book as eating bacon, cheeseburgers, no tattoos, etc.
I guess I would hold homosexual imorrality up to the same standards I hold heterosexual immorality up to. Are you sleeping around, outside of a committed relationship, cheating, raping, lying to get the sex, etc. Those are immoral.
I guess I would hold homosexual imorrality up to the same standards I hold heterosexual immorality up to. Are you sleeping around, outside of a committed relationship, cheating, raping, lying to get the sex, etc. Those are immoral.
So you’re calling yourself a progressive? This place is f@@king hilarious.
Feel free to discuss and counter if you would like.
If procreation and life are not how we have progressed I would like to know how we have.
Right, that’s science.
The social argument is the only one that seems to matter, and frankly I don’t think anybody gives a **** about that in 2020. America is gay as hell, and very proud about it. You are accepted. That has been established.
However, we have seen a movement into the science discussion with lgbt community redefining genders, and attempting to change “science”. A man is woman, men can have babies, genders are not real. It’s some of the dumbest stuff you’ll ever see, and I’m still not sure what the point/purpose of that argument is. Guess just an attempt to refute the science argument and say “no! You’re wrong, gay men can have babies because I said so”. In their mind there is no more logical objection to anything gay, because they’ve changed the “science” and genders don’t exist, procreation is whatever they say it is.
Fine. Whatever. You win.
But then there’s also some weird thing going on about teaching young kids about homosexuality. That’s a whole nother thing, and I can’t see anything other than some very evil and perverse stuff going on with whatever that movement is.
I don’t know how we got here, or what the point actually is. As I said, gay is cool as hell now. We are the gayest country on earth. What more do some people want? A lot of things I apparently don’t understand.
People want the government (you, me) to pay for their healthcare.
They also want to engage in behaviors that spread disease, increase cancer risks, etc., while telling us these are “private matters” that don’t impact you.
Common sense Americans have been backed into a corner.
They quit laying out the cogent, common sense arguments against illicit sexual behavior, and the next thing you know, we have teenage boys saying they are “girls”, pinning little girls to the wrestling mat.
You sit back and say it doesn’t impact you, and then you look up one day and they come for you and your family.
People fail to connect dots and then one day the dots have been connected and the “it doesn’t matter to me” crowd has been pinned into a corner.
Congrats on not caring.
They also want to engage in behaviors that spread disease, increase cancer risks, etc., while telling us these are “private matters” that don’t impact you.
Common sense Americans have been backed into a corner.
They quit laying out the cogent, common sense arguments against illicit sexual behavior, and the next thing you know, we have teenage boys saying they are “girls”, pinning little girls to the wrestling mat.
You sit back and say it doesn’t impact you, and then you look up one day and they come for you and your family.
People fail to connect dots and then one day the dots have been connected and the “it doesn’t matter to me” crowd has been pinned into a corner.
Congrats on not caring.
I don't think science says otherwise about what a person wants to be, though I may be misinterpreting what you mean. If you want something you want something.
Marriage isn't a strictly religious thing you know. Atheists and non-religious folks get married, after all.
But then where does it end? Science says I'm not black.. but what if I want to be? Do I just get to walk up to a group of blacks and tell them I'm the same as them? I want a million dollars, is it just supposed to be handed to me?
For me, it's more "like what you like".. If you're a boy who wants to dress like a girl and do girls things.. that's fine, because that's what you're into. But you can't go up to a girl and say "we're the same".. your body, your experiences, the way you're seen, is anything but..
If marriage is defined by God, then how are non-Christians able to get legally married in a non-Christian ceremony? Marriage is only defined by God when people allow it to only be defined by God.
Which is why I consider the government version separate, it’s simply a bureaucratic imitation of the real thing. They can let cats and dogs get married like that for all I care.
At my last job, there was a gay guy that worked there. He had a boyfriend the whole time but I didn't know he had a boyfriend. I didn't know he was gay until I learned when he came back from vacation that he had married this boyfriend. Never once has he ever talked to me about being gay since then, yet I constantly hear from people who hate gays that the gay lifestyle is being forced on us by all the gays.
Same goes with many Christians, it all comes down to selfishness and the belief that literally anything outside their world view is unacceptable for the most part. They always complaining about how anti-Christian stuff is being forced on America all the time. The country was founded on religious freedom, yet Christians have been forcing Christianity (and in the cases of Native Americans and slaves, literally forcing them to convert to Christianity) on everyone on this continent ever since they stepped foot on it.
I think the logic behind your post is zany (other than the choice part) but like rewarded for bringing a relatively unique opinion.
I don't understand the transgender thing either. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that you feel like you are a woman instead of a man or vice versa. But I don't think it's wrong to feel that way, and I'm not going to discriminate against someone over it. At least not consciously, I perhaps may have some subconscious discriminations going on that I don't realize.
If the only purpose of our DNA is procreation, why are you making ****** posts on an internet forum? That's not going to help you create more babies, in fact it will actually hinder it.